Powers & Abilities Yamato used advanced COA?

#61
No, imo using haki on to the fruit power isnt ryou.
Kata didnt have it as he couldnt clad his mogura.
Well, we clearly need more information but logically, applying Haki on things which are not attached onto your own body should be considered a different application of CoA, hence Ryuo.

But Katakuri did not truly need Haki to mortally wound Luffy, did he? Unfortunately, we've never seen Katakuri's Mogura hitting Luffy's hardening.
 
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#62
we've never seen Katakuri's Mogura hitting Luffy's hardening.
we have seen Crackers sword cut Luffys hardening.

applying haki to other things is not automatically ryou. many (all?!?) of the Kuja pirates can imbue their arrows with haki.

imbueing haki: no aura arround
ryou: aura arround

or so I think.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#63
Well, we clearly need more information but logically, applying Haki on things which are not attached onto your own body should be considered a different application of CoA, hence Ryuo.

But Katakuri did not truly need Haki to mortally wound Luffy, did he? Unfortunately, we've never seen Katakuri's Mogura hitting Luffy's hardening.
We literally saw him fight cracker right before. Heck with cracker the enraged army raisin etc oda constantly showed hardening in the meme pirates on weapons.
If he had it oda would have shown it.
 
#67
We literally saw him fight cracker right before. Heck with cracker the enraged army raisin etc oda constantly showed hardening in the meme pirates on weapons.
Luffy's hardening worked against Cracker's just fine.

Why did Luffy not try to use hardening for once against Katakuri's Mogura? Why did Luffy keep dodging? Dude, Katakuri was overpowering Luffy's hardening with his bare fists (+ hardening)! Imagine Katakuri applying Haki onto his weapon as well...

We know the information based of a swordsman how he applies Haki onto his swords. Either we will see a different explanation from an awakened DF user or we won't. I wouldn't exclude this at least.

If he had it oda would have shown it.
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"Oda would have done this, Oda would have done that" - that ain't a reason to exclude possibilities which were not explained before.

Oda can always add more stuff into Haki as long as it fits into the plot.

We have yet to know why Kata and Doffy used Haki onto their awakening.
Do you have a valid explanation how they applied Haki on their awakening?
How did they flow their Haki outta their bodies to affect their surroundings?

I mean, I'm just saying that Oda could use that whole Ryuo stuff to explain why awakening users are able to apply Haki onto their awakening techniques.
 
#68
Ryuo is literally just CoA, the only difference is on Wano they emphasize the flow of CoA. Thus, being capable of Ryuo doesn't make you capable of creating a barrier, it just means you can use CoA.
Level 0 CoA/Ryuo: Ability to touch Logia, increase in offense/defense, can clad weapons in level 0 CoA

Example: Tashigi

Level 1 CoA/Ryuo: Can use Black Haki for a more significant increase in offense/defense, can clad weapons in level 1 CoA

Examples: Sai, Wano Act 1 Luffy

To learn the next level you must learn to efficiently draw Haki into your hands from the parts of your body that don't need it:
Level 2 CoA/Ryuo: No visual difference for swordsmen but they have significantly more penetrating power, can also use Barrier Haki which significantly boosts both offense and defense. Able to inflict damage without touching. Required to damage extremely hard materials such as dragon scales.

Examples - Oden, Scabbards, Hyogoro, pre-TS Sentomaru. To learn the next level there's not an inherent difference in technique, you simply have to possess the talent to do so.

If you are able to control Enma, you likely automatically possess minimum level 2 CoA as you must control your flow of Haki proficiently enough such that you are able to prevent Enma from stealing it.

Level 3 CoA/Ryuo: Destroys from the inside. Swordsmen can be shown to have Haki leaking off of their weapons, significantly stronger than Level 2.

Examples - Luffy, Rayleigh, Rogerbeard
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#69
Luffy's hardening worked against Cracker's just fine.

Why did Luffy not try to use hardening for once against Katakuri's Mogura? Why did Luffy keep dodging? Dude, Katakuri was overpowering Luffy's hardening with his bare fists (+ hardening)! Imagine Katakuri applying Haki onto his weapon as well...

We know the information based of a swordsman how he applies Haki onto his swords. Either we will see a different explanation from an awakened DF user or we won't. I wouldn't exclude this at least.



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"Oda would have done this, Oda would have done that" - that ain't a reason to exclude possibilities which were not explained before.

Oda can always add more stuff into Haki as long as it fits into the plot.

We have yet to know why Kata and Doffy used Haki onto their awakening.
Do you have a valid explanation how they applied Haki on their awakening?
How did they flow their Haki outta their bodies to affect their surroundings?

I mean, I'm just saying that Oda could use that whole Ryuo stuff to explain why awakening users are able to apply Haki onto their awakening techniques.
? Crackers hardening on his sword > anything luffy could do. Oda had to make cracker not use haki when he stabbed tankman for a reason.

Putting haki on string or mochi is standard as its an extension of their fruit power.

Kata would have hardened his mogura if he had ryou.
 
#70
Crackers hardening on his sword > anything luffy could do.
Cracker only managed to cut a more vulnerable part of Bound Man's stretched arm.

Let's see whether he would have the same if he clashed with Bound Man's Kong Gun head-on.

Oda had to make cracker not use haki when he stabbed tankman for a reason.
No.

Do you not remember the reason why Doffy's Athlete couldn't cut Bound Man's torso? It is because of his rubbery + hardening which was highly elastic and yet hard due to that mechanism.

Tank Man is a much tankier and much more elastic version of Bound Man. Hence the same application but with more elasticity.

No matter if Cracker used hardening or not, Tank Man would have still clapped him away.

Putting haki on string or mochi is standard as its an extension of their fruit power.
Yet again, we have no valid explanation how they apply Haki on their awakening.

It is clear that Awakening is an advanced form of DF abilities - and only two DF users showed this advanced stuff so far.
Luffy couldn't even believe that - when he saw Doffy's awakening - stuff like that is still some paramecia exclusive stuff. Guess why?

Kata would have hardened his mogura if he had ryou.
He did not need to.
Kata still blow a fatal wound to Luffy regardless of his Haki.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#72
Cracker only managed to cut a more vulnerable part of Bound Man's stretched arm.

Let's see whether he would have the same if he clashed with Bound Man's Kong Gun head-on.



No.

Do you not remember the reason why Doffy's Athlete couldn't cut Bound Man's torso? It is because of his rubbery + hardening which was highly elastic and yet hard due to that mechanism.

Tank Man is a much tankier and much more elastic version of Bound Man. Hence the same application but with more elasticity.

No matter if Cracker used hardening or not, Tank Man would have still clapped him away.



Yet again, we have no valid explanation how they apply Haki on their awakening.

It is clear that Awakening is an advanced form of DF abilities - and only two DF users showed this advanced stuff so far.
Luffy couldn't even believe that - when he saw Doffy's awakening - stuff like that is still some paramecia exclusive stuff. Guess why?



He did not need to.
Kata still blow a fatal wound to Luffy regardless of his Haki.
No cracker using hardening on his sword was > g4s defence and that was A NO NAMED ATTACK.
Doffys haki was shit it broke grabbing a non haki clad non graded sword.
If tankman could handle crackers hardening oda would have drawn it cracker using hardening and his named attack could have well broke through.
All your points are based on nothing despite oda drawing the opposite of what you say. You cant just assume kata can do it when he had ample oppurtunity to show it and didnt.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#77
I wouldn’t be surprised if Yamato did have Haki. Similar zoro, sanji, and Jinbei
Of course, I doubt she is so much of a physical beast given the way she treated a Tobi Roppo.

I mean if she really did that without using any haki she is my new idol.

But Wano is a country in which Ryou is a thing, I'm almost certain she would learn it at some point of her life and she even stayed with Ace all that time who could have taught her, if for any weird reason she hadn't address yet.
 
#78
Of course, I doubt she is so much of a physical beast given the way she treated a Tobi Roppo.

I mean if she really did that without using any haki she is my new idol.

But Wano is a country in which Ryou is a thing, I'm almost certain she would learn it at some point of her life and she even stayed with Ace all that time who could have taught her, if for any weird reason she hadn't address yet.
I Personally think of ace and Yamato may a fight each other on opposing sides. Than end up some how becoming friends. It’s possible Kaido May raise daughter like man.
 
#80
Everything is ryou, since day 1...breathing is ryou, walking is advanced coa, etc.
Look, franky used advanced haki in this panel, this looks like the little version of king kong gun, but with advanced coa of course, because all is coa, and coa is all.
fodders in dressrosa used advanced ryou on their sword.
In amazon lily every fodder has barier haki, feels weird that luffy trained near that island 2 years, and he entered in new world, without knowing advanced coa.

 
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