Powers & Abilities Zeus carries Nami and its awful
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Zeus likes food and nami gives her more food 
You guys want trickery? 
It's better they hit him with their sticks and slings while he sits there like a buffoon
Oh my days ,Oda achieved comedy
Btw here FI&PH stuff that Oda could easily exploit for this fight but is better to keep Ussop and co too weak,not even be able to deal with fodder as showcased in the most recent chapter.
"Cannot have Ussop do anything worthwhile now though because I still need to have material for Elbaf"(I hope he has something for there at least. )
It's better they hit him with their sticks and slings while he sits there like a buffoon
Oh my days ,Oda achieved comedy
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Btw here FI&PH stuff that Oda could easily exploit for this fight but is better to keep Ussop and co too weak,not even be able to deal with fodder as showcased in the most recent chapter.
"Cannot have Ussop do anything worthwhile now though because I still need to have material for Elbaf"(I hope he has something for there at least. )
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Thinking more Zeus will not simply act as a thunder homie now, he can also shapeshift Nami's clima tact, but there's no effort from Nami there, Zeus simply shapeshifts how he sees fit to defend or attack
Not a fan relying like that, Nami is supposed to be one of those weak but big brain type characters, not over relying on Zeus like that.
Not a fan relying like that, Nami is supposed to be one of those weak but big brain type characters, not over relying on Zeus like that.
Yep. finisher against Ulti was underwhelming because it was basically Zeus working on autopilot while she was being clueless on what was happening. It's just not satisfying.
That's why Zeus should have minimal agency from now that she saw what he can do. He should only shapeshift into what Nami tells him to turn and his main role should stickto amplify the attacks she launches/prepare with the tact, but rarely taking a decision by himself.
That's why Zeus should have minimal agency from now that she saw what he can do. He should only shapeshift into what Nami tells him to turn and his main role should stickto amplify the attacks she launches/prepare with the tact, but rarely taking a decision by himself.
Oda should have decided a clear route for Nami, turn her into a competent fighter who can hold her own or just turn her into the Bulma of the strawhats, right now Nami is in between of those 2 , a weakling who gets put into fights with top tier fighters and Oda has to go out of his way to nerf them massively or make them do stupid mistakes just for Nami to get the W.
The problem is that because of this, her wins don't feel statisfying at all. I said since the beginning, that Ulti/P1 vs Nami/Usopp was a terrible matchup and that the fight would suck, turns out I was right. Usopp's best matchups are against people like Sugar,Perona,Spandam. He should have fought Bao Huang.
The problem is that because of this, her wins don't feel statisfying at all. I said since the beginning, that Ulti/P1 vs Nami/Usopp was a terrible matchup and that the fight would suck, turns out I was right. Usopp's best matchups are against people like Sugar,Perona,Spandam. He should have fought Bao Huang.
Tbh Usopp and Chopper vs Mr4 and the Mole hag was well done, all other Usopp fights suck, he has some good moments here and there but fighting wise that was his best fight, could have had something similar in this arc, if both flyers were too much for Nami/Usopp then have them 2v1 one, easy solution.
Problem is when you get writer like Mashima he will find a way to made his female lead character great and strong. While Oda is clown, which is obvious so he used laziest writing that you will never find in any other manga. Lami getting Zeuse from the begining was made lame, bad and had no sence. And nothing changed from that point, it's even became worser.
1. Nami called her shot. Despite the fact that Ulti beat her ass, she still went back with the intention of fighting. You should be making fun of Luffy for how he handled Katakuri, or Crocodile since he promised not to lose the second round, or Kaido since he lost right after Zoro and Sanji assured themselves that he had it covered.
2. Nami struck the finishing blow. This wouldn't have been possible for Zeus on his own, as he was only able to fuse with the climatact because of her.
3. Zeus is her subordinate, just like Sanji. She's no less than her own captain in this regard because Zoro pulled Luffy away from reckoning several times in this arc alone.
4. More specifically, Nami facilitated wins over Buggy and Ener, and it's arguable that Cracker could have won if she didn't help.
5. And... Ulti is a badass. She was giving Luffy a fight tough enough to warrant Gear 4, except someone else bailed him out by swiping Ulti with a boss level move.
But I guess you guys want Oda to just stick with the same formula from Alabasta. Where somehow she's able to eat hits and return just as many hits against a fucking dinosaur who could knock down Luffy.
2. Nami struck the finishing blow. This wouldn't have been possible for Zeus on his own, as he was only able to fuse with the climatact because of her.
3. Zeus is her subordinate, just like Sanji. She's no less than her own captain in this regard because Zoro pulled Luffy away from reckoning several times in this arc alone.
4. More specifically, Nami facilitated wins over Buggy and Ener, and it's arguable that Cracker could have won if she didn't help.
5. And... Ulti is a badass. She was giving Luffy a fight tough enough to warrant Gear 4, except someone else bailed him out by swiping Ulti with a boss level move.
But I guess you guys want Oda to just stick with the same formula from Alabasta. Where somehow she's able to eat hits and return just as many hits against a fucking dinosaur who could knock down Luffy.
Slightly disagree.
Zeus has his own consciousness. He literally attacked fodder on his own accord once nami called him partner. He also came out of the climatact on his own.
Big mom did the work and zeus got the finishing blow.
Of course he'll listen to her but he literally said his job is to make sure the attack lands because nami can't do it on her own.
Nami just has to stand there and do nothing & let zeus attack & do all the work.
Zeus has his own consciousness. He literally attacked fodder on his own accord once nami called him partner. He also came out of the climatact on his own.
Big mom did the work and zeus got the finishing blow.
Of course he'll listen to her but he literally said his job is to make sure the attack lands because nami can't do it on her own.
Nami just has to stand there and do nothing & let zeus attack & do all the work.
Again, she explicitly calls Zeus her subordinate and he agrees. Having a consciousness doesn't change his role. A role that would have ended entirely had she not extended the climatact with the intention of helping him before he was eaten.
Big Mom did the work because Ulti was the one to attack her. Page One was played against Big Mom successfully by the Straw Hats.
And going back to Zeus, he's able to hit the target because she chose to stay and fight. If she decided to run we have no basis to say that Zeus would strike a finishing blow on Ulti
Big Mom did the work because Ulti was the one to attack her. Page One was played against Big Mom successfully by the Straw Hats.
And going back to Zeus, he's able to hit the target because she chose to stay and fight. If she decided to run we have no basis to say that Zeus would strike a finishing blow on Ulti
Sexist? Um, so Big Mom cracks a tough guy in half with one punch. Hera almost devours Zeus but is saved by Nami. Then the three females are in conflict with each other until Ulti is tired enough for Zeus to finish her on Nami's behalf.
By your logic, Orange Town was sexist against males because the main character and the main villain both got tied up by Nami or something, lol
By your logic, Orange Town was sexist against males because the main character and the main villain both got tied up by Nami or something, lol
Usopp is gonna surpass the strongest third commander next arc
He's currently as strong as 10 gifters
At this point it's kind of obvious that whatever power up he's gonna get it's gonna be an asspull
Same for nami, she's not a fighter at this point, she's just there during battles
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I don't really hate her character, but tbh I don't really think much of her development
I don't understand why Zeus is treated nicely, he's a backstabbing piece of shit who would leave nami's side as soon as he finds some good food lol