Future Events ZKK: Final bet thread
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if it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't.
thats the case atm.. most of the theories are just bias justifications and some aren't even narratively emphasized
- Zoro's "vindication"
- OnePiece mags
- Color pages with dragons on em
- Black blades
- Monster Samurai
- Tangential lores
- disjointed parallels
basically people justifying ZKK through these even tho there is barely any relational development story wise between Zoro and Kaido..
so buncha reverse-engineering through those and minimal from canon story itself.
for all we know oda never even hinted towards Zkk before it happens
and its odd coz oda labeled Zoro's fruit as Kaiod's fruit that shouldn't bolster the theory but should highlight their glaring similarities
-Zoro's ideals regarding being the strongest
-Death and the way of samurai
- Move and skills based on dragons
- and blue eastern dragon being the quintessential symbol of strength and courage (a certain marimo is reminded I'm sure)
- the story of how the coy fish swam through the waterfall becoming the dragon is a proper analogy of the meaning what zoro and Mihawk mean by a big frog in a small pond...explains zoro's journey as a whole someone who is meant to be like the dragon, the epitome of strength and courage.
"coy is also associated with samurai".. noting animus here just similarities ... soooo zkk? idk
If oda wanted zoro to kill Kaido he would have given a very obvious hint with obviously further detailed explanations than just "omg people intoxicated with smiles and yasui died i should be the one to kill Kaido VAMOSS", more justified is what i saying narratively,and after introducing the geography of wano Oda could have had Shimotsuki live in the west hence their guardian deity being the tiger
Wano's whole geography is vased upon the 5 elemental guardians..
-Eastern(Onigashima) Seiryu : spring
-Western (Kibi) Tiger
-Southern (Kuri) Suzaku the Virmillion bird : summer
-Northern (Ringo) Genbu the black warrior :Winter
Ringo could have represented the tiger (west) but it doesn't instead Kibi does.
This whole Tiger being the arch nemesis of Dragon is not what these 4 (or 5 if you include the yellow dragon in the center making the flower capital ) guardian deities represent to my knowledge matter the fact .. this rivalry in general is used to represent
yin and yang (link for more info)
and if you claim that zoro and Kaido have a yin and Yang (Naruto and Sauske esc) relationship... then damn the story has been lacking in ghat department
All in all it might happen but the evidence that gets suggested is meh misconstrued, misrepresented, and fan bias plot(?) or narrative,...but zoro can still execute Kaido...
but I'll stick with my initial opinion of it not happening the way people want to
ZEK : zoro executes kaido is plausible
coz it doesn't need any sorta development with Kaido
but ZKK : zoro killing Kaido in a fight for whatever reason
isn't happening
thats the case atm.. most of the theories are just bias justifications and some aren't even narratively emphasized
- Zoro's "vindication"
- OnePiece mags
- Color pages with dragons on em
- Black blades
- Monster Samurai
- Tangential lores
- disjointed parallels
basically people justifying ZKK through these even tho there is barely any relational development story wise between Zoro and Kaido..
so buncha reverse-engineering through those and minimal from canon story itself.
for all we know oda never even hinted towards Zkk before it happens
and its odd coz oda labeled Zoro's fruit as Kaiod's fruit that shouldn't bolster the theory but should highlight their glaring similarities
-Zoro's ideals regarding being the strongest
-Death and the way of samurai
- Move and skills based on dragons
- and blue eastern dragon being the quintessential symbol of strength and courage (a certain marimo is reminded I'm sure)
- the story of how the coy fish swam through the waterfall becoming the dragon is a proper analogy of the meaning what zoro and Mihawk mean by a big frog in a small pond...explains zoro's journey as a whole someone who is meant to be like the dragon, the epitome of strength and courage.
"coy is also associated with samurai".. noting animus here just similarities ... soooo zkk? idk
If oda wanted zoro to kill Kaido he would have given a very obvious hint with obviously further detailed explanations than just "omg people intoxicated with smiles and yasui died i should be the one to kill Kaido VAMOSS", more justified is what i saying narratively,and after introducing the geography of wano Oda could have had Shimotsuki live in the west hence their guardian deity being the tiger
Wano's whole geography is vased upon the 5 elemental guardians..
-Eastern(Onigashima) Seiryu : spring
-Western (Kibi) Tiger
-Southern (Kuri) Suzaku the Virmillion bird : summer
-Northern (Ringo) Genbu the black warrior :Winter
Ringo could have represented the tiger (west) but it doesn't instead Kibi does.
This whole Tiger being the arch nemesis of Dragon is not what these 4 (or 5 if you include the yellow dragon in the center making the flower capital ) guardian deities represent to my knowledge matter the fact .. this rivalry in general is used to represent
yin and yang (link for more info)
and if you claim that zoro and Kaido have a yin and Yang (Naruto and Sauske esc) relationship... then damn the story has been lacking in ghat department
All in all it might happen but the evidence that gets suggested is meh misconstrued, misrepresented, and fan bias plot(?) or narrative,...but zoro can still execute Kaido...
but I'll stick with my initial opinion of it not happening the way people want to
ZEK : zoro executes kaido is plausible
coz it doesn't need any sorta development with Kaido
but ZKK : zoro killing Kaido in a fight for whatever reason
isn't happening
Kaido dodged Red Hawk
Zoro is not strong samurai, he is pirate and he was not on the Oden level so there is no need for Kaido to acknowledge him
Kaido will never meet samurai strong as Oden
Nine shadows stuf doesn`t have anything to do with Zoro
Grim Reaper symbolize Zoro`s struggle with death, he was fighting for his life
We don`t have any idea about forging of black blades
Zoro has done already enough to get respect of Wano citizen and he will have his character developing plots in post raid Wano.
Because of same thing they hype Ryuma for rerepelling WG.
Zoro is not strong samurai, he is pirate and he was not on the Oden level so there is no need for Kaido to acknowledge him
Kaido will never meet samurai strong as Oden
Nine shadows stuf doesn`t have anything to do with Zoro
Grim Reaper symbolize Zoro`s struggle with death, he was fighting for his life
We don`t have any idea about forging of black blades
Zoro has done already enough to get respect of Wano citizen and he will have his character developing plots in post raid Wano.
Because of same thing they hype Ryuma for rerepelling WG.
I noticed that exactly 20 years before next chapter release (1050), Chapter 231 was released which ended with Luffy saying:
"I will be back by sunrise"
I think it would be mind-blowing if the dawn appears next chapter
But what's more interesting is that before Luffy left, Cricket tried to stop him, but Zoro offered him his Sword & said:
"If you want to stop him, you will have to use this"
"I will be back by sunrise"
I think it would be mind-blowing if the dawn appears next chapter
But what's more interesting is that before Luffy left, Cricket tried to stop him, but Zoro offered him his Sword & said:
"If you want to stop him, you will have to use this"
Dude there is no fixed ZKK Scenario Theory
Some think it Zoro vs Kaidou which ends with Zoro victorious
Some think it's just Zoro jumping & beheading Kaidou on top of capital just like Ryuma
Some think it's SHs vs Kaidou which ends up with Zoro's Finisher
Some think it's Ice Oni Zoro beheading Kaidou
Some think it's Zoro executing Kaidou
Some think he uses 1 Sword Style & other say he uses Asura
... etc
All that matters is that ZKK = Kaidou dying at hands of Zoro
Everything else are just details we cannot predict & each one gives their own Scenario
Some think it Zoro vs Kaidou which ends with Zoro victorious
Some think it's just Zoro jumping & beheading Kaidou on top of capital just like Ryuma
Some think it's SHs vs Kaidou which ends up with Zoro's Finisher
Some think it's Ice Oni Zoro beheading Kaidou
Some think it's Zoro executing Kaidou
Some think he uses 1 Sword Style & other say he uses Asura
... etc
All that matters is that ZKK = Kaidou dying at hands of Zoro
Everything else are just details we cannot predict & each one gives their own Scenario
Similarly to Luffy, Zoro seems to have faced death, as indicated by him meeting the Reaper. He will come back to life stronger and lead to the dawn, become the new monster Samurai that will give Kaido his desired death and become the new leader of Wano.
Zoro is not killing kaido just give up kaido already got his flashback it ended there