Speculations Zoro alone can push Kaido to a high diff

[Sasaki Kojirō]

We have 2 Yonkous, and 5 SNS.

• - Zoro could take KAIDO to a big difference according to LORO experts.

•Let's do the math:
Zoro manages to make a big difference in KAIDO, which means that the fight must last a long time between the two of them, long enough for Luffy, Kid, Law, Killer, to win the BIG MOM.

But why was LORO thinking and devising strategies to separate the YONKOUS, when he could take one of them to a big difference? Oh, no, they are invincible, they side by side look like hell ...

Following the logic that LORO can lead KAIDO to a high difference:
If LORO can already take you to a high difficulty, Loro + Kid, can take to an extreme or even win, following the same logic, Luffy + Law + Killer, can take BM to an extrama and win, but look at that: It seems hell, our attacks don't work, we need to separate one of them, monstrous Haki.
By the logic of LORO high difference KAIDO, the 5SNS was to beat the YONKOUS on the roof and not lose or think about separating them.

In short: Loro can push KAIDO 1x1, for high difficulty.
And Luffy, Kid, Law, killer, vs BM, can't beat BIG MOM or take it to the extreme, that's why they are losing on the roof, and devising strategies to separate the YONKOUS, because Luffy + Killer + KID + LAW , added together are less than LORO.
LORO makes a big difference alone, and Luffy, kid, law, killer lose to BM of high difficulty, LORO is worth all of them.

ZORO alone high differential KAIDO.

Luffy, Kid, Law, Killer together, high BM differential, that's why they were losing.

 

[Rulo D.Oro]

Low diff. No 🧢
Full health Kaido would demoslih Zoro

 

[Finalbeta]

Base Luffy with future sigh barely managed to evade base Kaido thunder bagua and was still injured.

In 1v1 hybrid Kaido low diff zoro and it shouldn't be discussion ...
wth with these zorobois?

They forget that thanks to Law twice! Zoro is alive?

I think this is the most suitable scenario for now:

An healthy Zoro can probably consistently push Kaido right now.

Zoro was achieving pretty great against him until Hakai was exploded.

Asura Zoro is fast enough to allegedly blitz Kaido, and while Kaido's combat speed is possibly superior to Zoro's whilst the latter in base, Zoro showed impressive reaction speeds.

Zoro is extremely durable and his AP even in Base is probably superior to anything Kaido showed so far.

He can also probably use Asura attacks multiple times before losing all his energy.

His defensive output is furthermore impressive.

I don't see Kaido having a very easy time against Zoro if he started fresh.

 

[nik87]

If Zoro kills Kaido that proves that he can beat him.
Only thing left to prove is firepower.
Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives.

 

[The Legend]

I think this is the most suitable scenario for now:



I don't see Kaido having a very easy time against Zoro if he started fresh.

The reason why Kaido did not evade the Asura was because he did not know / did not expect that Zoro had ACoC, it is even seen that he stays there trying something called hell hakkei.

If zoro can use multiple asura, Kaido can use multiple thunder bagua / ragnaroks Or several "half of the hakai" as the lolkobois say.

No way in 1v1 that fight can be something more than Low diff

 

[Finalbeta]

If Zoro kills Kaido that proves that he can beat him.
Only thing left to prove is firepower.
Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives.

When would you see that more probably occurring assuming they both started fresh and it was 1 on 1? You have any idea?

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

 

[Finalbeta]

The reason why Kaido did not evade the Asura was because he did not know / did not expect that Zoro had ACoC, it is even seen that he stays there trying something called hell hakkei.

If zoro can use multiple asura, Kaido can use multiple thunder bagua / ragnaroks Or several "half of the hakai" as the lolkobois say.

No way in 1v1 that fight can be something more than Low diff

Heh man remember that Kaido had hardly any reason not to expect Zoro to strike since that was a battle I mean lol and on top of it Zoro had just unleashed a different form or mode or like you wish and furthermore, Kaido had factually most likely stopped underestimating the novae by that point. Also he was attempting to attack Zoro too, and Zoro simply moved faster than he did.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Zoro could solo Kaido everyone else is holding him back

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Perfect logic, 5SNS attacking +1000 times, Kaido and BM, attacking 1 time combined: End of SNS, LORO shitting his pants.

 

[The Legend]

Heh man remember that Kaido had hardly any reason not to expect Zoro to strike since that was a battle I mean lol and on top of it Zoro had just unleashed a different form or mode or like you wish and furthermore, Kaido had factually most likely stopped underestimating the novae by that point. Also he was attempting to attack Zoro too, and Zoro simply moved faster than he did.

And according to you, Kaido will be defeated with how many Asuras?

Kaido can take more Asuras than the thunder baguas that Zoro can take.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

And according to you, Kaido will be defeated with how many Asuras?

Kaido can take more Asuras than the thunder baguas that Zoro can take.

That is if ZORO manages to get it right, KAIDO underestimated ZORO thinking he didn't have COC so he didn't bother to dodge.
Bagua KAIDO is a blitz in ZORO, while ASURA kaido dodges. Asura is slow, ASURA was exchanging blows with a KAIDO using his casual club without the need for ADCOC, or even a quick attack like BAGUA.

 

[Finalbeta]

And according to you, Kaido will be defeated with how many Asuras?

Kaido can take more Asuras than the thunder baguas that Zoro can take...

I don't see Zoro soloing Kaido yet most likely.

It would probably take a rather big amount of Asura attacks to perform the job, even though he can most likely damage him with Hiryuu Kaen as well and probably other attacks if they landed, well some are faster than Hiryuu Kaen. If Zoro was healthy and not that fatigued his attack would most likely be way more efficient, but it would probably still take severals to perform the job or at least be close with a debilitated Kaido on the other side. But Zoro would suffer damage too meanwhile.

 

[Human D Luffy]

So let us all stablish that fact that zoro cannot beat Kaido. I can even the most zealous zoro fan can agree with this.
But zoro can definitely push kaido past low-diff for sure.
I see a lotta sanji fans vote for that option. No surprise there, I am sure if they have mistaken zoro for sanji on that vote. 😂

We have already seen that ashura left kaido with a scar.
Assuming that's the only 1 big hit zoro can land during the matchup, that scar/feat is already beyond a low-diff matchup.
So the only logical argument would be mid diff to high diff, because as much as i like zoro i don't see how he can push kaido for extreme diff. We still haven't seen Kaido awaken yet, that beast is just too much for anyone at this moment.
Granted, we also haven't seen an all-out zoro yet because oda decided to nerf zoro by blocking the hakai attack.

So for now, Imma put zoro at mid-diff.

 

[nik87]

When would you see that more probably occurring assuming they both started fresh and it was 1 on 1? You have any idea?

If Zoro's firepower is enough to split Kaido, he can do it instantly.
Of course the author wouldnt make it so, no point in losing an Emperor in matters of seconds and the fight doesnt end up satisfying.

 

[Cherry Hilk]

Mid or Mid-Low diff.

If Zoro kills Kaido that proves that he can beat him.
Only thing left to prove is firepower.
Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives.

Are you genuinely implying that Zoro is the strongest character in One Piece?

 

[nik87]

Are you genuinely implying that Zoro is the strongest character in One Piece?

Yes. Exactly that.
Dont tell me you are surprised that a character who seeks strength and has access to god mode is the storngest?

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

that's not how you take things into consideration bro

I liked how you did agree with ur friend above when Luffy got called fodder but when luffy said you carried me you gave us excuses around lmao

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come on guys ... this "Zoro wasn't all out" ... how long you want

Zoro is heavily injured while he carried all of those fighters you saw in the roof top unless you believe the attack Zoro used is the same when he is healthy without damage or a little injuree .

ou don't see any Luffy fan say : "Luffy isn't all out cause he got hit in the balls by a named attack"

Until Luffy gets the same damage Zoro got then you can talk to me let's not talk about how Zoro is a fighter and no a DF user ( his health affects his power that came from his body not a DF ) when Doffy got heavily injured did his DF get affected ? Or no his reaction and other things to the point Gear 2sd Luffy can tag him easily lmao

Zoro did HIS BEST

- he stopped Hakai for a moment
- he scarred Kaido without bring him down

• He stopped Hakai and took it per kid and law words .
• He clashed with Kaido and overpowered him and left a scar on his body in his strongest form and this is the first time here in this battle we see Kaido sweating and panting and complaining about the injury let's not talk about the massive blood or the scar that got shown .
This is far better than what Luffy did let's not bring Arlong statement here .

that's a mid diff in my book .

A mid diff where he needs to use hybrid to have a chance againt him Lmao

Dragon form can't do shit .
Base form can't do shit when even Law could survive it and let's not talk how Zoro outreact a FS user and stopped hakai that is >>>> TB that is the only thing Kaido showed .

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Base Luffy with future sigh barely managed to evade base Kaido thunder bagua and was still injured.

In 1v1 hybrid Kaido low diff zoro and it shouldn't be discussion ...
wth with these zorobois?

Reading admirals piece is just for tards like u a 1 vs 1 already happened and guess who injured the other

Stick to OP not admirals tards piece

Post automatically merged: Apr 17, 2021

Zoro end of story will surpass Mihawk, winning by a centimeter against an opponent that is by definition inferior to Kaido. We don't know how much he is weaker than Mihawk and how much Mihawk is weaker than the Yonko, we don't know how far we are from the end of this Manga.

Considering just what he is capable of and has showed concretely:

• he can dodge his elemental attack
• he can cut through his scales
• make him feel pain
• cause variable internal damage
• he can block briefly a high end attack but he would still be damaged by it
• with his best attack so far he can give him a scar (it was a final attack, even if he was hurt badly, all the final attack are done after a bloodbath, just look at every Luffy fight, he does his best when he is half dead)

Considering what he has demonstrated for real, I can give him just a loss with medium difficulty for Kaido, cause if the best he can do is just giving him a scar without even bringing him down, then I can't vote for another option.

When he will show something more effective, I'll update this

When you already fight Kaido in hybrid and leave a scar on his body it's already a high diff though lmao

Post automatically merged: Apr 17, 2021

We have 2 Yonkous, and 5 SNS.

• - Zoro could take KAIDO to a big difference according to LORO experts.

•Let's do the math:
Zoro manages to make a big difference in KAIDO, which means that the fight must last a long time between the two of them, long enough for Luffy, Kid, Law, Killer, to win the BIG MOM.

But why was LORO thinking and devising strategies to separate the YONKOUS, when he could take one of them to a big difference? Oh, no, they are invincible, they side by side look like hell ...

Following the logic that LORO can lead KAIDO to a high difference:
If LORO can already take you to a high difficulty, Loro + Kid, can take to an extreme or even win, following the same logic, Luffy + Law + Killer, can take BM to an extrama and win, but look at that: It seems hell, our attacks don't work, we need to separate one of them, monstrous Haki.
By the logic of LORO high difference KAIDO, the 5SNS was to beat the YONKOUS on the roof and not lose or think about separating them.

In short: Loro can push KAIDO 1x1, for high difficulty.
And Luffy, Kid, Law, killer, vs BM, can't beat BIG MOM or take it to the extreme, that's why they are losing on the roof, and devising strategies to separate the YONKOUS, because Luffy + Killer + KID + LAW , added together are less than LORO.
LORO makes a big difference alone, and Luffy, kid, law, killer lose to BM of high difficulty, LORO is worth all of them.

ZORO alone high differential KAIDO.

Luffy, Kid, Law, Killer together, high BM differential, that's why they were losing.

Zoro is doing two works though throughout the battle protecting Luffy and fighting beside others and also help some supernovas

Dragon Kaido showed he can't do shit to Zoro .

Base Kaido TB is a trash compared to Hakai that Zoro reacted to it far better than a FS luffy who evaded partially TB let's not talk about how Zoro blocked and took it head on and still continued
Let's not talk about the clash between Zoro and Hybrid Kaido where he got overpowered after the clash and then blitzed afterwards he sweated / panted for the first time here

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The reason why Kaido did not evade the Asura was because he did not know / did not expect that Zoro had ACoC, it is even seen that he stays there trying something called hell hakkei.

If zoro can use multiple asura, Kaido can use multiple thunder bagua / ragnaroks Or several "half of the hakai" as the lolkobois say.

No way in 1v1 that fight can be something more than Low diff

Headcanon.com

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Zoro would be lucky if he lasted 5 minutes alone with Kaido.

 

[JyThony]

The reason Luffy had to constantly get bailed out by Zoro is because the Yonko were hard-focusing him. If Kaido went at Zoro the way he went at Luffy, Zoro would've been out of the fight much earlier

Why does Kaido get downplayed so often? He's arguably top 3 strongest characters we've seen thus far. Zoro isn't there yet and that's perfectly fine

We still have 5 years until EoS, putting Zoro on such a pedestal this early will only make his future accomplishments seem less impressive down the line

That being said, I think Zoro should be able to push Kaido to atleast mid difficulty during the halfway point of the next arc. And EoS Zoro can take him