General & Others Zoro and Sanji aren't ready.

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Luffy needs g4 to manhandle ulti, umph, that's just sad

kaido didn't need any powerup to one shot g4

>Luffy affected by PIS
Kaido squeals against Kiku

 

[nik87]

Sanji may not be ready but that's Sanji.
Zoro was born ready.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

>Luffy affected by PIS
Kaido squeals against Kiku

PIS is not an argument when you're wrong

 

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PIS is not an argument when you're wrong

Better not whine about PIS when Luffy beats Kaido then

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Better not whine about PIS when Luffy beats Kaido then

if you would listen to oda you would know luffy can't beat him without plot help

 

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if you would listen to oda you would know luffy can't beat him without plot help

PIS is not an argument.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

PIS is not an argument.

plot help ain't pis, you're confusing terms

 

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plot help ain't pis, you're confusing terms

Both are plot related

 

[Darkoplax]

I swear if Powerlevels nerds had their way it would take 2000 chapters for Luffy to become yonko level, by that time even the biggest One Piece fans would have dropped the manga because of how shitty that would be, all to satisfy some Powerlevel nerds who don't even fucking buy the manga or merch

Respect your opinion, but I simply don't want One Piece which i followed for over 5 years to turn to what other shonens like DB , Naruto , FT etc

I think One Piece has been a pretty coherent story so far and i never really complained about matchups nor general decisions from Oda but simply put, Sanji and Zoro since TS which's 10 years now and 6 full fledge arcs with Zoro/Sanji did not have any development in terms of strength ... I'm more than fine with people that says Luffy could solo Kaido or Big Mom over people that say Sanji/Zoro could solo YC , cause Luffy have progressed through the story while the other 2 hasn't.

at the end it's Oda's story if he wants to write Sanji and Zoro to take on YCs just cause Emna/Suit powerup then whatever will have to roll with it but it's gonna ruin the enjoyment of a lot of ppl

 

[MarineHQ]

if you would listen to oda you would know luffy can't beat him without plot help

That was never said tho. Oda merely hinted that he has to find a justifiable way for Luffy to defeat Kaidou, then coincidentally Advanced Haki was introduced as a concept and Oda pushed Luffy to learn it all.

It's quite clear that Advanced Haki was the answer Oda was hinting at in his interview.
That isn't PIS nor plot armor.

 

[WesMidnight]

Wano is a training arc, they have all grown.
Luffy was stronger than Cracker and strong enough to possibly beat Katakuri if he didn't have FS pretty much coming out of the time skip.
Neither King nor Queen have FS hax and they don't have a stall DF like Cracker.

 

[Zenos7]

That was never said tho. Oda merely hinted that he has to find a justifiable way for Luffy to defeat Kaidou, then coincidentally Advanced Haki was introduced as a concept and Oda pushed Luffy to learn it all.

It's quite clear that Advanced Haki was the answer Oda was hinting at in his interview.
That isn't PIS nor plot armor.

i personally dont think so, because its still basically luffys punch being strong. . .

 

[MarineHQ]

i personally dont think so, because its still basically luffys punch being strong. . .

Well, Kaidou will obviously be jumped at by several people.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

That was never said tho. Oda merely hinted that he has to find a justifiable way for Luffy to defeat Kaidou, then coincidentally Advanced Haki was introduced as a concept and Oda pushed Luffy to learn it all.

It's quite clear that Advanced Haki was the answer Oda was hinting at in his interview.
That isn't PIS nor plot armor.

Adv haki was introduced way back, rayleigh used it to save camie, Oda didn't come up with adv haki recently for kaido fight

 

[MarineHQ]

Adv haki was introduced way back, rayleigh used it to save camie, Oda didn't come up with adv haki recently for kaido fight

Oh come on man, he obviously did. Advanced Haki is in no way something Oda thought about back in shabondy, dude didn't even have Haki properly created yet.

He's obviously tying up loose ends with the new power system.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Oh come on man, he obviously did. Advanced Haki is in no way something Oda thought about back in shabondy, dude didn't even have Haki properly created yet.

He's obviously tying up loose ends with the new power system.

admirals used it as well, MF luffy used fs, sentomaru too if I am not mistaken
he may not have figured it out during sabaody, but that interview happened years later, very much doubt oda couldn't figure out haki concept during that time

 

[Chrono]

The Power scale is already beyond horrendous when the low and mid trio are fucking bullying a Yonko. The PLs dont exist in OP lmao.

Zoro and Sanji defeating Calamity lvl people is more likely than the weaker SHs bullying a Yonko. And since that has already happened.....literally anything can happen.

 

[Tobra]

no they are ready

 

[Chrono]

Sanji may not be ready but that's Sanji.
Zoro was born ready.

If he was born ready how come he has recieved 2000+ Ls in his lifetime ?

 

[OmegaPsyche]

The Power scale is already beyond horrendous when the low and mid trio are fucking bullying a Yonko. The PLs dont exist in OP lmao.

Zoro and Sanji defeating Calamity lvl people is more likely than the weaker SHs bullying a Yonko. And since that has already happened.....literally anything can happen.

Nothing changed, fodder can impact battles in wars where yonko get distracted, meme didn't even get damaged so I don't get your point