General & Others Zoro and Sanji aren't ready.

[Mohammad211]

Personally i think they are Ready

Zoro in Dressrosa Mid diffed a vet Level Character (Pica i Honestly Think Pica is Stronger Than Some of Vet of Yonko (Daifuku, Tamago Pekoms P1 Ulti)) and Defeated another Vet lvl Character in 2v1 fight in Wano (Killer) With Out Using His Full Power and We Don't Know How Strong he is yet He Get new Sword You Can Argue its Pu Or Not (Personally i think it's Pu In Term of Control Over CoA)

and sanji Was Able to Fight Vet Level Character Some time Equally and Some Time Over Powering Them also his Objective in his Clashes with vet Lvl Character never Wasn't Defeating them He Get A Big PU (Personally i think it's Even Bigger PU Than FS or Ryu)

if They Fight King and Queen they can Become Stronger in Fight They Don't Need to Be Equal or Stronger Than Them in Beginning of the Fight
it's also true about Other SHP if they Get 1v1

 

[bhacha2000]

Ready or not the fight should focus more on Strawhats, those side character just come in help and not leading the fight. PU should shown that their ready to fight. It may not be 1v1 they will do team fight and Strawhats the one who leading the fight and giving final blow should be Strawhats. Maybe a few scarbad after failling in killing Kaido they will pass the baton in fighting to Luffy, Kid and Law (most supernova should join) and take care Tobiroppo and helping taking down Calamities. It will be shame they cant even stand up helping after failling in take down Kaido. This is their fight and Strawhats.

 

[Himura]

All out Zoro >~ Marco. RS Sanji is also ready to fight a Calamity.

 

[Geo]

Grouping Zoro with Sanji is dumb. They are two separate characters.
Post skip , they haven't been through the same circumstances not even similar circumstances so no reason to group them together.

 

[Jackteo]

Grouping Zoro with Sanji is dumb. They are two separate characters.
Post skip , they haven't been through the same circumstances not even similar circumstances so no reason to group them together.

Exactly.
One fought Big Mom, dodged Katakuri and clashed with King. The other defeated Pica with Orlumbus, Kamazo (almost dying) and fought 5% Fujitora in Dressrosa.

 

[Balen]

Again beating this dead horse but gotta say it again for fans to not get too high hopes unless Oda wants to make One Piece a power scale mess but Zoro and Sanji aren't ready to fight YC and top tiers and nothing prove that they are.


Luffy went through the development and got stronger each arc by getting intense fights while Zoro and Sanji are chilling and for them to jump from nothing to taking on YC ALONE would make absolute no sense in the story.

First we gotta remember who are the quality fighters that we should worry about and it's : Kaido , King , Queen , Jack , Page One , Ulti , Who's Who (?) , Black Maria , Apoo (assuming he ain't gonna snake Kaido and turn against him) , Fukurokuju , Hotei


My Predictions as of right now :

- Zoro goes up with Luffy somehow and fights an injured Jack who just came off beating the Dukes then teams up with the rest of the Supernovas to take down Kaido (and maybe he get the finishing blow idc) , also i would appreciate if Zoro gets to beat Hotei even offscreen as in his request to become the GOAT swordsman he hand't beaten many in his journey

- Sanji would would probably teamup with Jinbei to take on Queen just like he did with Wadatsumi (maybe Who's Who joins them in that fight as there's a storyline there) , and maybe he gets a secondary fight against Fukurokuju

- The rest of the SH i honestly don't know , their lack of Haki obviously means they can't compete with the remaining TobbiRoppo so Black Maria , Who's Who (?) , Page One , Ulti and Sasaki (?) so they will probably match up with fodders most likely

- As for King , I think it's pretty obvious he's fighting the strongest remaining fighter that didn't go up and that's Marco.

- Apoo has to go up and either he snakes Kaido and join the Supernova teamup or he fights Kidd up there

All these powerscaling and shit are not canon, it's simply the Fandom's headcannons and when zoro and sanji vs calamities happens they can't get over it

 

[Geo]

Exactly.
One fought Big Mom, dodged Katakuri and clashed with King. The other defeated Pica with Orlumbus, Kamazo (almost dying) and fought 5% Fujitora in Dressrosa.

Sure that works too

 

[LadyVados]

Again beating this dead horse but gotta say it again for fans to not get too high hopes unless Oda wants to make One Piece a power scale mess but Zoro and Sanji aren't ready to fight YC and top tiers and nothing prove that they are.


Luffy went through the development and got stronger each arc by getting intense fights while Zoro and Sanji are chilling and for them to jump from nothing to taking on YC ALONE would make absolute no sense in the story.

First we gotta remember who are the quality fighters that we should worry about and it's : Kaido , King , Queen , Jack , Page One , Ulti , Who's Who (?) , Black Maria , Apoo (assuming he ain't gonna snake Kaido and turn against him) , Fukurokuju , Hotei


My Predictions as of right now :

- Zoro goes up with Luffy somehow and fights an injured Jack who just came off beating the Dukes then teams up with the rest of the Supernovas to take down Kaido (and maybe he get the finishing blow idc) , also i would appreciate if Zoro gets to beat Hotei even offscreen as in his request to become the GOAT swordsman he hand't beaten many in his journey

- Sanji would would probably teamup with Jinbei to take on Queen just like he did with Wadatsumi (maybe Who's Who joins them in that fight as there's a storyline there) , and maybe he gets a secondary fight against Fukurokuju

- The rest of the SH i honestly don't know , their lack of Haki obviously means they can't compete with the remaining TobbiRoppo so Black Maria , Who's Who (?) , Page One , Ulti and Sasaki (?) so they will probably match up with fodders most likely

- As for King , I think it's pretty obvious he's fighting the strongest remaining fighter that didn't go up and that's Marco.

- Apoo has to go up and either he snakes Kaido and join the Supernova teamup or he fights Kidd up there

Hey as long Zoro gets the finishing blow on Kaido I’m fine.

Nothing wrong with your prediction at all :cheers:

 

[The White Crane]

Again beating this dead horse but gotta say it again for fans to not get too high hopes unless Oda wants to make One Piece a power scale mess but Zoro and Sanji aren't ready to fight YC and top tiers and nothing prove that they are.


Luffy went through the development and got stronger each arc by getting intense fights while Zoro and Sanji are chilling and for them to jump from nothing to taking on YC ALONE would make absolute no sense in the story.

First we gotta remember who are the quality fighters that we should worry about and it's : Kaido , King , Queen , Jack , Page One , Ulti , Who's Who (?) , Black Maria , Apoo (assuming he ain't gonna snake Kaido and turn against him) , Fukurokuju , Hotei


My Predictions as of right now :

- Zoro goes up with Luffy somehow and fights an injured Jack who just came off beating the Dukes then teams up with the rest of the Supernovas to take down Kaido (and maybe he get the finishing blow idc) , also i would appreciate if Zoro gets to beat Hotei even offscreen as in his request to become the GOAT swordsman he hand't beaten many in his journey

- Sanji would would probably teamup with Jinbei to take on Queen just like he did with Wadatsumi (maybe Who's Who joins them in that fight as there's a storyline there) , and maybe he gets a secondary fight against Fukurokuju

- The rest of the SH i honestly don't know , their lack of Haki obviously means they can't compete with the remaining TobbiRoppo so Black Maria , Who's Who (?) , Page One , Ulti and Sasaki (?) so they will probably match up with fodders most likely

- As for King , I think it's pretty obvious he's fighting the strongest remaining fighter that didn't go up and that's Marco.

- Apoo has to go up and either he snakes Kaido and join the Supernova teamup or he fights Kidd up there

 

[Rukusho]

Need to stop grouping Zoro with Sanji.

Zoro has been stacking wins since the timeskip and has been looking good.

No one has been capable of pushing him to use his pre-ts power let alone his TS power up, Oda has been cuddling Zoro for this arc.

All to say Zoro is a wildcard.

Sanji has been in match ups, and hasn't looked the greatest - Sanji i believe isn't ready for a calamity but there is a trump card and thats mixing the Raid Suit with Diable Jambe. (We'll have too wait and see with him)

Oda does care about power-levels to a degree ~ but there is PIS no denying that.

 

[York]

Good lord, it's like you guys didnt even listen to Franky last chapter

 

[WesMidnight]

Zoro has been stacking wins since the timeskip and has been looking good.

No one has been capable of pushing him to use his pre-ts power let alone his TS power up, Oda has been cuddling Zoro for this arc.

All to say Zoro is a wildcard.

Sanji has been in match ups, and hasn't looked the greatest - Sanji i believe isn't ready for a calamity but there is a trump card and thats mixing the Raid Suit with Diable Jambe. (We'll have too wait and see with him)

Oda does care about power-levels to a degree ~ but there is PIS no denying that.

Oda is the one who groups them together, they will always be rivals and the closest in strength to one another.
Zoro hasn't FACED anyone of note, just weak subordinates for the most part and he fainted after taking an attack from a fellow subordinate.
Sanji has diable jambe, hell's memories, using NAMED attacks with the raid suit, possible Franky/Ussop upgrades to enhance his flames, possible CoO upgrades.

 

[Rukusho]

Oda is the one who groups them together, they will always be rivals and the closest in strength to one another.
Zoro hasn't FACED anyone of note, just weak subordinates for the most part and he fainted after taking an attack from a fellow subordinate.
Sanji has diable jambe, hell's memories, using NAMED attacks with the raid suit, possible Franky/Ussop upgrades to enhance his flames, possible CoO upgrades.

Oda has not gouped them together since thriller bark … which even then Zoro is superior & later on he cements this by separating Luffy and Zoro by both of them being supernova's.

they are not close in strength … I'm not debating this.

What I am debating is the fact they are both two separate characters and shouldn't be compared just cause Zoro does something doesn't mean Sanji can and vice versa this mentality needs to stop since Oda doesn't keep comparing the two besides gags.

All you listed for Sanji is headcanon, when that comes to fruition then we can talk until then pure speculation.

 

[WesMidnight]

Oda has not gouped them together since thriller bark … which even then Zoro is superior & later on he cements this by separating Luffy and Zoro by both of them being supernova's.

they are not close in strength … I'm not debating this.

What I am debating is the fact they are both two separate characters and shouldn't be compared just cause Zoro does something doesn't mean Sanji can and vice versa this mentality needs to stop since Oda doesn't keep comparing the two besides gags.

All you listed for Sanji is headcanon, when that comes to fruition then we can talk until then pure speculation.

Zoro has only had serious fights with subordinates post skip.
They are close in strength, I am not interested in debating this point with you either, it's manga fact.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Oda has not gouped them together since thriller bark …

No, they were grouped together on Return to Sabaody, and Fishman Island. Punk Hazard was mainly focused on Luffy, Law and Smoker, and 30 chapters into Dressrosa the Straw Hats were split up and haven't been brought back together fully since one chapter ago. But even before that, in Wano itself, Oda gave us a reunion of just Sanji and Zoro.

 

[nik87]

Oda gave us a reunion of just Sanji and Zoro.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

That's not what I meant.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro goes up with Luffy somehow and fights an injured Jack who just came off beating the Dukes then teams up with the rest of the Supernovas to take down Kaido (and maybe he get the finishing blow idc) , also i would appreciate if Zoro gets to beat Hotei even offscreen as in his request to become the GOAT swordsman he hand't beaten many in his journey

Why would beating Jack or Hotei matter? It's like saying Zoro enters an arc and beats the 8th strongest swordsman in the arc and that somehow counts as progress.

Zoro wants to be the best right? So far he has been fighting the best in order to be the best right?

You are saying Zoro is going to realise King in the strongest swordsman in wano and he'll CHOOSE TO IGNORE HIM and then look for an injured Hotei who is unranked and beat him and that matters? How does that matter?

Or are you saying Oda will clearly show that King is the strongest swordsman but make sure that Zoro never learns of king's existence or never encounters him ever just to make sure Zoro never faces him.

Which of the two do you think will happen and explain how Zoro beating someone who isn't the strongest somehow aids in his journey to be the strongest

 

[nik87]

That's not what I meant.

If you are talking people being grouped up, Zoro and Luffy have been grouped up the most throughout the entire manga duration.
There is no duo more iconic than Zoro and Luffy.

 

[Zowo]

Zoro is ready don t give fuck about sanji
2 years with mihawk didn t even used asura trained with enma for a week
didn t used the moves he used on enies lobby
new moves
zoro s still a mistery but when he goes all out people with be upset how strong he is
and when he opens that eye it s over