General & Others Zoro and Sanji, Wings of Pirate King
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SBS never said they are PART OF THE SAME WING. Try again
It is interesting to note that Sanji being Luffy's wings is linked to his Kindness more than anything else.
Luffy even stated that his best attribute is his Kindness.
We know his Kindness is linked to his cooking.
This means Sanji will be Luffy's wings through his cooking (Kindness)
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It is interesting to note that Sanji being Luffy's wings is linked to his Kindness more than anything else.
Luffy even stated that his best attribute is his Kindness.
We know his Kindness is linked to his cooking.
This means Sanji will be Luffy's wings through his cooking (Kindness)
And who said they are part of the same wing? It said they are Luffy's wings using the same wording Robin used here, a wording that has been explained by Japanese speakers both in and out this forum to usually refer to more than one thing (or person, in this case).
Or this may be one of that times Paul's translation isn't accurate considering that it goes against the SBS identical statement, what other translators have chosen and what other Japanese speakers interpreted. Oda changing his mind a lot during the last 24 years doesn't seem to apply to Zoro and Sanji as much as you may believe, in my opinion.
I'm not sure I fully understand your second sentence (I think I get the idea), I'd appreciate if you worded it better.
Or this may be one of that times Paul's translation isn't accurate considering that it goes against the SBS identical statement, what other translators have chosen and what other Japanese speakers interpreted. Oda changing his mind a lot during the last 24 years doesn't seem to apply to Zoro and Sanji as much as you may believe, in my opinion.
I'm not sure I fully understand your second sentence (I think I get the idea), I'd appreciate if you worded it better.
And yet we have the proper translation. Sanji is the wings of the PK. There's no Zoro in the statement.
Zoro could be another set of wings and Nami a third set if wings...however that is irrelevant.
Point is, Sanji covers those two parts of wings...not just one.
Robin could've said left hand, left arm, left wing or whatever...however that's not case
Zoro could be another set of wings and Nami a third set if wings...however that is irrelevant.
Point is, Sanji covers those two parts of wings...not just one.
Robin could've said left hand, left arm, left wing or whatever...however that's not case
"The proper translation" = just one translator among others that ignores Oda's previous wording on this matter (which included Zoro) and follows an understanding of the expression that has been questioned by Japanese speakers plus translated different by other official professionals. You are stuck in a train of reasoning I've passed long ago and using as an argument exactly what I'm discussing.
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Correct you are pathetic, you go around other people's threads of people commenting because they're die hard fans and you bitch you moan you complain about how they are toxic. You just did it on someone else's thread that isnt even a spoiler thread, ironic you are telling me to go a life because this repetitve commenting on toxic people seems to be your M.O.
Create more of your own threads instead of being a sad pathetic loser and commenting on other threads because they dont match your "standard".
P.S great job at proposing 0 solutions to the toxicity of this forum. Also do my homework and get a life are the best burns you can come up with holy shit I just pity you at this point.
Correct you are pathetic, you go around other people's threads of people commenting because they're die hard fans and you bitch you moan you complain about how they are toxic. You just did it on someone else's thread that isnt even a spoiler thread, ironic you are telling me to go a life because this repetitve commenting on toxic people seems to be your M.O.
Create more of your own threads instead of being a sad pathetic loser and commenting on other threads because they dont match your "standard".
P.S great job at proposing 0 solutions to the toxicity of this forum. Also do my homework and get a life are the best burns you can come up with holy shit I just pity you at this point.
Paul's isn't "the official". There's no "the official" but official translations for other languages (not only English), and even official translators make mistakes or interpret subjectively on a daily basis (feels like you have never questioned a translated piece of cultural work...). It's not about picking and choosing translations but making a critical judgement of each translation, and in this particular case, Paul has against him:
1) Other official translations disagreeing with his interpretation.
2) Other Japanese speakers, some of them native, disagreeing with his interpretation.
3) Previous statement by Oda that used the same wording as in last chapter disagreeing with his interpretation.
And this is only discussing the wings part (which in raw doesn't necessarily mean that Sanji is both wings at once, because, you know, Japanese =/= English), because Brook's may also be highly debatable.
1) Other official translations disagreeing with his interpretation.
2) Other Japanese speakers, some of them native, disagreeing with his interpretation.
3) Previous statement by Oda that used the same wording as in last chapter disagreeing with his interpretation.
And this is only discussing the wings part (which in raw doesn't necessarily mean that Sanji is both wings at once, because, you know, Japanese =/= English), because Brook's may also be highly debatable.