Character Discussion Zoro downplay has reached a new height after chapter 1038

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
All I will say is that no one is mid diffing Big Mom. That's a deluded statement.
Fair enough but considering that Zoro isnt doing extreme diffs, you would have to agree to a high diff which isnt that far off. :myman:
If Big Mom sees the adv Haohshoku she's fighting way harder.
King recognized him as a legit threat and fought harder, it didnt help. :kayneshrug:
 
Shut up 🤡your not the most suitable to talk the only thing you do here is talk about your "plasma wanji" who can neg all the verse and you are the most obsesed with him that you don't quoting in the temple and now zorofans are not in tears they don't fucking care that he is not the MC and the ones who have been crying so hard are you and your fandom that make up shit and keep dreaming nonsenses have you seen your avy?"evil Sanji" "black hair Sanji" Sanji's coc because zoro has it and more shits
WoW :jackcopium:
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Shut up 🤡your not the most suitable to talk the only thing you do here is talk about your "plasma wanji" who can neg all the verse and you are the most obsesed with him that you don't quoting in the temple and now zorofans are not in tears they don't fucking care that he is not the MC and the ones who have been crying so hard are you and your fandom that make up shit and keep dreaming nonsenses have you seen your avy?"evil Sanji" "black hair Sanji" Sanji's coc because zoro has it and more shits
WoW:luffydab::jackcopium:
 
I'm not talking about you i did say you have the right to your opinion..
whatever the focus of the plot may be it doesn't mean people here dismiss opinions just coz they are different and involve brook helping zoro out.

which is what itches them.. Brook helping zoro out.. this doesn't necessarily mean zoro os out of commission.. the whole point of the theories with brook isn't to prove zoro is down but brook helping him out in whatever way thay

so you can't say the haters supporting brook relate theory is to push the "zoro is out of commission" agenda.

again i repeat and you're just vaguely touching upon it but you said it yourself if zoro haters aren't undermining zoro coz they seem pitiful and are getting nothing out of it,and here's where you contradict if they get nothing out of it then why do they support the theory?, ofc coz the theories posit a logical assumption that can be built upon, just coz the majority here supporting are "haters " according to you that just proves how pitiful some in Z bois are.. blatant adhominem .. its the pitiful and petty bunch that can't stand brook helping zoro out.. they're being dismissive unreasonably and it again fucking pitiful

which was my point from the get go.. those dismissing the theory unconditionally are the unappreciative pieces of shit.

you just unintentionally proved that some zoro haters atleast logically gauge opinions whether that be Ndule or someone else unlike the one's being unreasonably dismissive aboit the theory ( some z bois)


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again what you said just proved how screwed people are here in z-boi faction
it just proves that the hating majority (giving you the benefit of the doubt) atleast gauges things logically than some z bois here lol


funnily no one else except for some Z boi have a problem with those brook theories..

pretty disproportionate minority i must say so myself
Neither did I say these people support this theory because it makes Zoro look bad. Nor did I say they do it because it puts Zoro out of commission. A lot of these people don't give a single fuck about Brook, for the record- they're hopping on it simply because they don't want Zoro to go through the 2x damage and end up doing something insane.

With all that said. Of course there are people who reasonably support this theory, yes? And of course, there are a lot of Z-Boys who disregard this theory simply because of those people or other agenda? (Although I personally think it's VERY unlikely, as well, and I've given reasons above which you don't seem to disagree with).

But, again, your generalization is ass. Should I start quoting the amount of times people dismiss and shittalk theory hyping up Zoro for nothing? You think this is bad? Do you remember pre-Onigashima days? A lot of these people would call you a retarded Zoro cock sucker for suggesting Zoro will scar Kaido, much less ZKK. And most of these people do the same regarding ZKK despite it being, at the very least, a decent theory with good bit of backing, right?

Again, I don't really blame anyone in this "fantard war". They might do it because they hate Z-Boys. And Z-Boys do it because of same reason, I think? Idk.

Point remains, it goes every way every time. Idk why you gotta pretend like behavior akin to this exists only in Zoro fandom lmao.
As opposed to Pica defeating current Luffy lool, yh that's the same:yasu:
Saying current base Luffy that is currently fighting Kaido > Zoro ain't even that outlandish tbh

This is Luffy with a much better control with adcoc, adcoa and adcoo. That ain't even downplay. If the WSC can't even push Luffy to use his strongest mode, what chance does Zoro have??
How exactly is that downplay???
Thank you for proving my point lmao.

I don't know what manga you've been reading but Luffy has been spamming G2/G3 throughout the entire rooftop fight.

If you think Kaido can't even push Luffy to use G4, then you're free to lol... not even going to entertain that thought. You're going to be very disappointed when Luffy uses G4 and Kaido is actually able to go on par with it- if not with an edge still.

First half of your post was much better, though. Base Luffy => All-out Zoro is about as nonsensical as trying to say Pica can defeat current Luffy.
 
Neither did I say these people support this theory because it makes Zoro look bad. Nor did I say they do it because it puts Zoro out of commission. A lot of these people don't give a single fuck about Brook, for the record- they're hopping on it simply because they don't want Zoro to go through the 2x damage and end up doing something insane.

With all that said. Of course there are people who reasonably support this theory, yes? And of course, there are a lot of Z-Boys who disregard this theory simply because of those people or other agenda? (Although I personally think it's VERY unlikely, as well, and I've given reasons above which you don't seem to disagree with).

But, again, your generalization is ass. Should I start quoting the amount of times people dismiss and shittalk theory hyping up Zoro for nothing? You think this is bad? Do you remember pre-Onigashima days? A lot of these people would call you a retarded Zoro cock sucker for suggesting Zoro will scar Kaido, much less ZKK. And most of these people do the same regarding ZKK despite it being, at the very least, a decent theory with good bit of backing, right?

Again, I don't really blame anyone in this "fantard war". They might do it because they hate Z-Boys. And Z-Boys do it because of same reason, I think? Idk.

Point remains, it goes every way every time. Idk why you gotta pretend like behavior akin to this exists only in Zoro fandom lmao.

Thank you for proving my point lmao.

I don't know what manga you've been reading but Luffy has been spamming G2/G3 throughout the entire rooftop fight.

If you think Kaido can't even push Luffy to use G4, then you're free to lol... not even going to entertain that thought. You're going to be very disappointed when Luffy uses G4 and Kaido is actually able to go on par with it- if not with an edge still.

First half of your post was much better, though. Base Luffy => All-out Zoro is about as nonsensical as trying to say Pica can defeat current Luffy.
you need to redefine what "generalization" is to the mirror
 
you need to redefine what "generalization" is to the mirror
Idk what you're getting so heated up over, man. You're getting upset over something that exists everywhere, and are pretending like the fan-base YOU personally dislike is only one that has it in bulk.

Are you trying to tell me there are good few people who disregard theories for sake of agenda rather than reasonable thinking and counters among Z-Boys? Yeah, there are.

Just as many outside of Z-Boys. The examples I gave are valid and you really can't deny any of them. Imagine being shittalked by masses and called delusional for theorizing Zoro would scar Kaido (and this was AFTER he got Enma).

You can't change people. You just shittalk them back and make fun of them if the reasoning they give is troll or pure hate. No point crying about whether Luffy fans are meaner about their fantasy or Zoro fans.
 
Idk what you're getting so heated up over, man. You're getting upset over something that exists everywhere, and are pretending like the fan-base YOU personally dislike is only one that has it in bulk.

Are you trying to tell me there are good few people who disregard theories for sake of agenda rather than reasonable thinking and counters among Z-Boys? Yeah, there are.

Just as many outside of Z-Boys. The examples I gave are valid and you really can't deny any of them. Imagine being shittalked by masses and called delusional for theorizing Zoro would scar Kaido (and this was AFTER he got Enma).

You can't change people. You just shittalk them back and make fun of them if the reasoning they give is troll or pure hate. No point crying about whether Luffy fans are meaner about their fantasy or Zoro fans.
dissensions are wide spread but when a specific group of people start shitting on opinion just coz they happen to be bigots that differ (which is the relevant topic atm) is a problem

all I'm doing is pointing that bigotry out.. calling out bias instincts against opinions just coz haters support the opinion is just nonsensical.. it okay to disagree but being dismissive due to difference is what im pretty sure some many can't stand here..
afterall i started this all initially pointing out their bigotry and barely any constructive critique.. just coz its exists wide spread doesn't mean anything here... what relevant here is this thread exists upon the same unappreciative basis.. and I'm just calling those half-wit bigots out like i have to right to
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Dont think this idea of Brook having some power to bring Zoro back to life make any sense, and how he would bring someone that is alive back to life? But also dont understand how Brook, who is a crewmate and friend of Zoro, being there to help would downplay Zoro, that's some hardcore insecurity with anything that isnt "hur dur zoro sword strong", seriously, Zoro is more than a blank character that only fight like some retards think



Think most logical option is that he is having a allucination related to Enma after taking drugs from a talking animal, anyone who have had a bad trip with mushrooms know what is happening with him.

And of course he probably have given soo much Haki to Enma that the sword "spirit" is "showing" to him, but not in a physical form, but in a way knly he can see.
 
I dont really buy any of the possible explanations besides "its brook having a laugh" and "its enmas spirit" but then I'm skeptical on enmas spirit as well because Oda loves giving swords gag humanizations
 
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