Questions & Mysteries Zoro having CoC

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#1
It's gonna be wild :

Kaido didn't egive a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all. He denies it completely

This is similar to when:
  • Kaido wonders "why does his blade have Oden's presence."
At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.
  • Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as imbued CoC attack.
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks

Look at Luffy's case:

  • When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
  • When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
  • When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!


As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC! And He surely has no adCoC!

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!

We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!


But when Kaido feels Oden's presence in Enma and confirms it. We also see visuals that enma have weird aura around it


You and other fanboys :

There's no Oden's haki/presnce in the balde

Kaido mistook Zoro's haki for Oden's! A blade can't store a presence or haki


Funnily :
when Kaido just wonders if Zoro has CoC without Oda showing visuals of zoro using CoC and no confirmations from Zoro and Kaiod
Fanboys : Zoro is confirmed to have CoC coz Kaido wondered...felt it might be CoC
So it is CoC and Ashura was imbued with CoC thuse Zoro has AdCoC too.
LOL you can't deny Oden's presence/haki being in enma which had visuals and confirmations from Kaido then accept Zoro having adCoC or using CoC without any visuals and confirmations based on a mere question from Kaido

Oda also never said you need CoCc to scar/hurt kaido! You need ryuo to hurt Kaido if you lack internal attacks or hax or enough power.
Retainers issue was AP not CoC or haki.
Kaido never said " you couldn't reopen it cause your haki sucks or you lack CoC"

This arc:

Kaido has always wondered --> confirmed ---> made comparisons
Whenever something seems odd. Whenever he felt haki or was hurt (Enma, CoA or CoC or adCoC)

Right now...Oda stopped kaido at wondering points

So far in this arc :
  • Brook wondered if Zoro used CoC ---> zoro denies
  • Kaido wonders if Zoro used CoC/has CoC --> Zoro denies

In both cases :
  • we don't see visuals of CoC emitting from Zoro before or when he attacked/talks!
  • we see Brook mistook The earthquake came from Zoro screaming madly!
  • Which might mean Kaido also mistook Zoro's intiimidating spirit being CoC!
Does Zoro have CoC? *Yeah maybe*
Does he have adCoC? No

Visuals or confirmations on Panels are always proof of someone using haki especially for the first time if it is a strawhat! Which Zoro doesn't have yet!

In Oden and Kidd cases, Oda made direct comparisons statement from Kaido and Ashura about Luffy using CoC just like them.

Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.
If side characters (like kata, fuji, coby) can be shown with visual when using CoO or CoC then surely Zoro would also get them for CoC if he has it.
Oda also won't have Zoro's CoC /new skill moment be lackluster...not have visuals.

@playa4321 @Sentinel @comrade @Celestial D. Dragon @sanjikun @WesMidnight @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo @Hades
 
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#4
It's gonna be wild :

Kaido didn't egive a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all. He denies it completely

This is similar to when:
  • Kaido wonders "why does his blade have Oden's presence."
At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.
  • Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as imbued CoC attack.
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks

Look at Luffy's case:

  • When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
  • When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
  • When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!


As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC! And He surely has no adCoC!

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!

We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!


But when Kaido feels Oden's presence in Enma and confirms it. We also see visuals that enma have weird aura around it


You and other fanboys :

There's no Oden's haki/presnce in the balde

Kaido mistook Zoro's haki for Oden's! A blade can't store a presence or haki


Funnily :
when Kaido just wonders if Zoro has CoC without Oda showing visuals of zoro using CoC and no confirmations from Zoro and Kaiod
Fanboys : Zoro is confirmed to have CoC coz Kaido wondered...felt it might be CoC
So it is CoC and Ashura was imbued with CoC thuse Zoro has AdCoC too.
LOL you can't deny Oden's presence/haki being in enma which had visuals and confirmations from Kaido then accept Zoro having adCoC or using CoC without any visuals and confirmations based on a mere question from Kaido

Oda also never said you need CoCc to scar/hurt kaido! You need ryuo to hurt Kaido if you lack internal attacks or hax or enough power.
Retainers issue was AP not CoC or haki.
Kaido never said " you couldn't reopen it cause your haki sucks or you lack CoC"

This arc:

Kaido has always wondered --> confirmed ---> made comparisons
Whenever something seems odd. Whenever he felt haki or was hurt (Enma, CoA or CoC or adCoC)

Right now...Oda stopped kaido at wondering points

So far in this arc :
  • Brook wondered if Zoro used CoC ---> zoro denies
  • Kaido wonders if Zoro used CoC/has CoC --> Zoro denies

In both cases :
  • we don't see visuals of CoC emitting from Zoro before or when he attacked/talks!
  • we see Brook mistook The earthquake came from Zoro screaming madly!
  • Which might mean Kaido also mistook Zoro's intiimidating spirit being CoC!
Does Zoro have CoC? *Yeah maybe*
Does he have adCoC? No

Visuals or confirmations on Panels are always proof of someone using haki especially for the first time if it is a strawhat! Which Zoro doesn't have yet!

Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.
If side characters (like kata, fuji, coby) can be shown with visual when using CoO or CoC then surely Zoro would also get them for CoC if he has it.
Oda also won't have Zoro's CoC /new skill moment be lackluster...not have visuals.

@playa4321 @Sentinel @comrade @Celestial D. Dragon @sanjikun @WesMidnight @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo @Hades
Zoro has CoC.



Oda won't tease zoro having CoC if he has no intention to build on this.


I mean has oda tease anyone else with having CoC and then didn't give?


And, this isn't first time massive hint regarding zoro having coc has been dropped or Ashura has been linked with CoC.


You guys were just ignoring it like always.

So zoro having CoC is done deal.





It would be better to accept that you guys were totally wrong and take L instead of finding excuses
 
#9
If Oda wanted to make it clear he would, he loves trolling the fanbase, I don't think it's CoC, just misidentified like Brook misidentified earlier or they misidentified Cracker's swordsman aura. Whether it is base CoC is up to debate, but I will go by Zoro's word on Zoro's capabilities, rather than Kaido or a zorotard on a forum.

Asura being advanced CoC makes zero sense within the chapter, Kaido saying "only the strong" and being SHOOK when Luffy used it doesn't stack up if Luffy's subordinate used advanced CoC a few seconds earlier lol. Also the clear fact it doesn't even look like advanced CoC and you realise this is a zorotard delusion that should be laughed at.
 

Zolo

Turning water into beer
#12
It's gonna be wild :

Kaido didn't egive a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all. He denies it completely

This is similar to when:
  • Kaido wonders "why does his blade have Oden's presence."
At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.
  • Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as imbued CoC attack.
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks

Look at Luffy's case:

  • When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
  • When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
  • When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!


As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC! And He surely has no adCoC!

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!

We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!


But when Kaido feels Oden's presence in Enma and confirms it. We also see visuals that enma have weird aura around it


You and other fanboys :

There's no Oden's haki/presnce in the balde

Kaido mistook Zoro's haki for Oden's! A blade can't store a presence or haki


Funnily :
when Kaido just wonders if Zoro has CoC without Oda showing visuals of zoro using CoC and no confirmations from Zoro and Kaiod
Fanboys : Zoro is confirmed to have CoC coz Kaido wondered...felt it might be CoC
So it is CoC and Ashura was imbued with CoC thuse Zoro has AdCoC too.
LOL you can't deny Oden's presence/haki being in enma which had visuals and confirmations from Kaido then accept Zoro having adCoC or using CoC without any visuals and confirmations based on a mere question from Kaido

Oda also never said you need CoCc to scar/hurt kaido! You need ryuo to hurt Kaido if you lack internal attacks or hax or enough power.
Retainers issue was AP not CoC or haki.
Kaido never said " you couldn't reopen it cause your haki sucks or you lack CoC"

This arc:

Kaido has always wondered --> confirmed ---> made comparisons
Whenever something seems odd. Whenever he felt haki or was hurt (Enma, CoA or CoC or adCoC)

Right now...Oda stopped kaido at wondering points

So far in this arc :
  • Brook wondered if Zoro used CoC ---> zoro denies
  • Kaido wonders if Zoro used CoC/has CoC --> Zoro denies

In both cases :
  • we don't see visuals of CoC emitting from Zoro before or when he attacked/talks!
  • we see Brook mistook The earthquake came from Zoro screaming madly!
  • Which might mean Kaido also mistook Zoro's intiimidating spirit being CoC!
Does Zoro have CoC? *Yeah maybe*
Does he have adCoC? No

Visuals or confirmations on Panels are always proof of someone using haki especially for the first time if it is a strawhat! Which Zoro doesn't have yet!

In Oden and Kidd cases, Oda made direct comparisons statement from Kaido and Ashura about Luffy using CoC just like them.

Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.
If side characters (like kata, fuji, coby) can be shown with visual when using CoO or CoC then surely Zoro would also get them for CoC if he has it.
Oda also won't have Zoro's CoC /new skill moment be lackluster...not have visuals.

@playa4321 @Sentinel @comrade @Celestial D. Dragon @sanjikun @WesMidnight @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo @Hades
Zoro will without doubt have CoC , this chapter is a hint... but I doubt he will ever have adCoC ... he doesnt need it to become WSS. Even legends like Oden and reylight dont have adCoC... and this chapter confirmed nothing
 
#13
CoC is very fitting with Zoro type of character and personality, so I think he unlocked this power in this life or death situation and Kaido noticed it.
Probably after this Wano arc he will gradually learn how to use it and at EoS he will master it. Or maybe he won't ever arrive at Luffy's level because it seems like swordmen are more focused on advCoA with all the black blades stuff, but for sure he will also improve a little in CoC somehow.
It would make no sense narratively speaking if Kaido was wrong about him in a chapter focused on CoC and whose name is Conqueror's Haki.
 
#18
It's 99% Zoro's CoC and on the 1% off chance that it's not, then it has something to do with cursed swords. Can't be anything else.
Swordman intimidation is a thing from Cracker.
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Wait...so Zoro leave a permanent scar on Kaido without Adv CoC? :quest::hope:

So how strong he is gonna with it ?:crazwhat::crazwhat:
Almost as strong as Oden, without the mobility that Oden had.
 
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