Questions & Mysteries Zoro having CoC

If they say Zoro used Adv. CoC against Kaido then they would be admitting Zoro was Superior to Luffy since he had it before him
If they say Zoro didn't use Adv. CoC against Kaido then that means he gave him Permanant Scar with only CoA which makes his CoA only Rival Adv. CoC of others lol meaning that current Zoro with Adv. CoC is vastly Superior

Zoro is always Stronger no matter how you translate that Scene
Ods already dispelled that notion, so why are spewing headcannon bs.
 
I think Zoro used Normal Coc to scarr kaido,there were no visuals of adcoc,i say this because i think asura and other demonic forms are indeed coc,but in Zoro somehow are represented this way
 

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I think Zoro used Normal Coc to scarr kaido,there were no visuals of adcoc,i say this because i think asura and other demonic forms are indeed coc,but in Zoro somehow are represented this way
We technically don't know whether or not Zoro touched Kaido if anything so all is feasible atm. 🧐
 
Who said Luffy isn't Monstrous
But Zoro used Adv. CoC before him

Pls tell me, who was Stronger
Fishmen Island Luffy or Fishmen Island Zoro?
Luffy, Luffy had 3 Gear 4 modes and 3 haki, as well as Oda stating Luffy was the strongest Strawhat in the databook and Luffy's feats as well support this.

All this means is like I said before Luffy was just straight up stronger than Zoro, despite him having barrier haki.

Asura had advanced coc haki because Enma drew that out from Zoro.
 
Asura had advanced coc haki because Enma drew that out from Zoro.
You know that Zoro was holding back entire Raid before Chapter 1033, right?

So according to you, Fishmen Island Luffy learned after that Future Sight + Barrier Haki + Internal Destruction Haki to be able to fight Kaido in rooftop & still got wrecked, but Zoro was able to perform all those Roof Feats even though he was weaker than Fishmen Island Luffy, that makes zero sense

Enma was a nerf buddy, go re-read last Chapter
If Zoro was releasing his entire Haki, he would have ended up becoming like we saw this Chapter & fully tamed Enma
On the other hand, we do know Luffy was giving it his all cuz he uses all his Haki in Gear 4 & that's why it's temporary & he needs to recharge
 
Luffy, Luffy had 3 Gear 4 modes and 3 haki, as well as Oda stating Luffy was the strongest Strawhat in the databook and Luffy's feats as well support this.

All this means is like I said before Luffy was just straight up stronger than Zoro, despite him having barrier haki.

Asura had advanced coc haki because Enma drew that out from Zoro.
Don't lie please, Oda only stated Luffy was the strongest Strawhat only after WCI never before, every data book and additional material Oda stated Luffy and Zoro are equals!

Thats is just your head cannon, feats don't show Luffy being above Zoro, they only do only after Luffy beats Katakuri and Oda confirms this with VC information stating for the first time in 20+ years Luffy is stronger

It doesn't matter if its Ashura or Enma drawing out advCoC, both are his power so why try and separate them?

You Luffy fans sometimes are as delusional as Sanji fans, completely ignoring feats and information because they hurt your feeling pff :lusalty:
 
Don't lie please, Oda only stated Luffy was the strongest Strawhat only after WCI never before, every data book and additional material Oda stated Luffy and Zoro are equals!

Thats is just your head cannon, feats don't show Luffy being above Zoro, they only do only after Luffy beats Katakuri and Oda confirms this with VC information stating for the first time in 20+ years Luffy is stronger

It doesn't matter if its Ashura or Enma drawing out advCoC, both are his power so why try and separate them?

You Luffy fans sometimes are as delusional as Sanji fans, completely ignoring feats and information because they hurt your feeling pff :lusalty:
just return the favor with "Pirate Jesus achieved XYZ feats thanks to his Gomu gomu no mi"
problem solved :kayneshrug:
 
It's gonna be wild :

Kaido didn't egive a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all. He denies it completely

This is similar to when:
  • Kaido wonders "why does his blade have Oden's presence."
At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.
  • Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as imbued CoC attack.
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks

Look at Luffy's case:

  • When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
  • When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
  • When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!


As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC! And He surely has no adCoC!

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!

We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!


But when Kaido feels Oden's presence in Enma and confirms it. We also see visuals that enma have weird aura around it


You and other fanboys :

There's no Oden's haki/presnce in the balde

Kaido mistook Zoro's haki for Oden's! A blade can't store a presence or haki


Funnily :
when Kaido just wonders if Zoro has CoC without Oda showing visuals of zoro using CoC and no confirmations from Zoro and Kaiod
Fanboys : Zoro is confirmed to have CoC coz Kaido wondered...felt it might be CoC
So it is CoC and Ashura was imbued with CoC thuse Zoro has AdCoC too.
LOL you can't deny Oden's presence/haki being in enma which had visuals and confirmations from Kaido then accept Zoro having adCoC or using CoC without any visuals and confirmations based on a mere question from Kaido

Oda also never said you need CoCc to scar/hurt kaido! You need ryuo to hurt Kaido if you lack internal attacks or hax or enough power.
Retainers issue was AP not CoC or haki.
Kaido never said " you couldn't reopen it cause your haki sucks or you lack CoC"

This arc:

Kaido has always wondered --> confirmed ---> made comparisons
Whenever something seems odd. Whenever he felt haki or was hurt (Enma, CoA or CoC or adCoC)

Right now...Oda stopped kaido at wondering points

So far in this arc :
  • Brook wondered if Zoro used CoC ---> zoro denies
  • Kaido wonders if Zoro used CoC/has CoC --> Zoro denies

In both cases :
  • we don't see visuals of CoC emitting from Zoro before or when he attacked/talks!
  • we see Brook mistook The earthquake came from Zoro screaming madly!
  • Which might mean Kaido also mistook Zoro's intiimidating spirit being CoC!
Does Zoro have CoC? *Yeah maybe*
Does he have adCoC? No

Visuals or confirmations on Panels are always proof of someone using haki especially for the first time if it is a strawhat! Which Zoro doesn't have yet!

In Oden and Kidd cases, Oda made direct comparisons statement from Kaido and Ashura about Luffy using CoC just like them.

Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.
If side characters (like kata, fuji, coby) can be shown with visual when using CoO or CoC then surely Zoro would also get them for CoC if he has it.
Oda also won't have Zoro's CoC /new skill moment be lackluster...not have visuals.

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Cinera

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Man i love reading your dumb posts :kobeha:
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What are you laughing for, he was right; Asura wasn't Haoshoku coating.

And BTW, so far there's only Haoshoku coating. Advanced Haoshoku isn't a thing.
 
What are you laughing for, he was right; Asura wasn't Haoshoku coating.

And BTW, so far there's only Haoshoku coating. Advanced Haoshoku isn't a thing.
Asura was not Haoshoku coating, but Haoshoku coating was involve in that attack too (without it, he wouldn't left a permanent scar to kaido).
An other point is, what is asura, cuz today chapter prove there is not such thing as course sword, so that manifestation is created by Zorowillpower. What does it tell you? Zoro willpower is extremly strong, he can create illusion (we havent see anything like this for other player)
I dont buy Zoro is a demon, cuz Zoro is a normal human, I dont buy that it come from his blade, I buy that Asura is Zoro will manifestation.

I bet Asura is Advanced CoC (not coating) but Advanced CoC.
 

Cinera

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Asura was not Haoshoku coating, but Haoshoku coating was involve in that attack too (without it, he wouldn't left a permanent scar to kaido).
There was no black lightning though.

I guess it's plausible that he subconsciously released some Haoshoku during the attack.
 
There was no black lightning though.

I guess it's plausible that he subconsciously released some Haoshoku during the attack.
That draw had different lines not the classical blacklighting but curve black line (we havent see that before) so just point that to you.
Asura is something that Oda will soon or later describe in more detail.
 
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