Questions & Mysteries Zoro having CoC

TBH I'd take this
During Zoro released a burst of COC unconciously during the Ashura's attack, which intimidated Kaidou, and struck Kaidou with COA so strong that Kaidou actually mistook it as AdvCOC.
In 1033 is the first time Zoro conciously imbued his swords with COC.
Which means now Zoro's COC imbued attacks are now more poten then his 1010's Ashura.
Either way it's a W/W for us Zoro fans :zosmug:
 

Cinera

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That draw had different lines not the classical blacklighting but curve black line (we havent see that before) so just point that to you.
Asura is something that Oda will soon or later describe in more detail.
Let's hope that this happens during the King fight.


@Cinera what do you think of Asura or other Zoro demonic manifestations been CoC?
It's not implausible.

We now know that it's not a power from cursed swords, so being a manifestation of Zoro's very spirit (how Rayleigh described Haoshoku) seems plausible.
 
Let's hope that this happens during the King fight.



It's not implausible.

We now know that it's not a power from cursed swords, so being a manifestation of Zoro's very spirit (how Rayleigh described Haoshoku) seems plausible.
No I see asura, being describe in detail in the next arc vs a top tier pirate (almost or Yonko level). I dont see asura being used vs King
Zoro used Asura as the last card move (vs Kaido Zoro said this is my last card, he was keeping that move as last resort) and so far King hasnt push Zoro and will never push Zoro there, because King has not Hakkai level attacks, and to be fair I dont see King pushing Zoro now that he has Haoshoku coating
 

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No I see asura, being describe in detail in the next arc vs a top tier pirate (almost or Yonko level). I dont see asura being used vs King
Zoro used Asura as the last card move (vs Kaido Zoro said this is my last card, he was keeping that move as last resort) and so far King hasnt push Zoro and will never push Zoro there, because King has not Hakkai level attacks, and to be fair I dont see King pushing Zoro now that he has Haoshoku coating
King has been winning this fight since 1027.
 
Let's hope that this happens during the King fight.



It's not implausible.

We now know that it's not a power from cursed swords, so being a manifestation of Zoro's very spirit (how Rayleigh described Haoshoku) seems plausible.
When Zoro scarred Kaido there were no adcoc visuals
That's why i started to think that Ashura could be coc
Also kaku comment

 
It's gonna be wild :

Kaido didn't egive a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all. He denies it completely

This is similar to when:
  • Kaido wonders "why does his blade have Oden's presence."
At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.
  • Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as imbued CoC attack.
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks

Look at Luffy's case:

  • When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
  • When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
  • When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!


As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC! And He surely has no adCoC!

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!

We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!


But when Kaido feels Oden's presence in Enma and confirms it. We also see visuals that enma have weird aura around it


You and other fanboys :

There's no Oden's haki/presnce in the balde

Kaido mistook Zoro's haki for Oden's! A blade can't store a presence or haki


Funnily :
when Kaido just wonders if Zoro has CoC without Oda showing visuals of zoro using CoC and no confirmations from Zoro and Kaiod
Fanboys : Zoro is confirmed to have CoC coz Kaido wondered...felt it might be CoC
So it is CoC and Ashura was imbued with CoC thuse Zoro has AdCoC too.
LOL you can't deny Oden's presence/haki being in enma which had visuals and confirmations from Kaido then accept Zoro having adCoC or using CoC without any visuals and confirmations based on a mere question from Kaido

Oda also never said you need CoCc to scar/hurt kaido! You need ryuo to hurt Kaido if you lack internal attacks or hax or enough power.
Retainers issue was AP not CoC or haki.
Kaido never said " you couldn't reopen it cause your haki sucks or you lack CoC"

This arc:

Kaido has always wondered --> confirmed ---> made comparisons
Whenever something seems odd. Whenever he felt haki or was hurt (Enma, CoA or CoC or adCoC)

Right now...Oda stopped kaido at wondering points

So far in this arc :
  • Brook wondered if Zoro used CoC ---> zoro denies
  • Kaido wonders if Zoro used CoC/has CoC --> Zoro denies

In both cases :
  • we don't see visuals of CoC emitting from Zoro before or when he attacked/talks!
  • we see Brook mistook The earthquake came from Zoro screaming madly!
  • Which might mean Kaido also mistook Zoro's intiimidating spirit being CoC!
Does Zoro have CoC? *Yeah maybe*
Does he have adCoC? No

Visuals or confirmations on Panels are always proof of someone using haki especially for the first time if it is a strawhat! Which Zoro doesn't have yet!

In Oden and Kidd cases, Oda made direct comparisons statement from Kaido and Ashura about Luffy using CoC just like them.

Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.
If side characters (like kata, fuji, coby) can be shown with visual when using CoO or CoC then surely Zoro would also get them for CoC if he has it.
Oda also won't have Zoro's CoC /new skill moment be lackluster...not have visuals.

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Peroroncino

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If Oda wanted to make it clear he would, he loves trolling the fanbase, I don't think it's CoC, just misidentified like Brook misidentified earlier or they misidentified Cracker's swordsman aura. Whether it is base CoC is up to debate, but I will go by Zoro's word on Zoro's capabilities, rather than Kaido or a zorotard on a forum.

Asura being advanced CoC makes zero sense within the chapter, Kaido saying "only the strong" and being SHOOK when Luffy used it doesn't stack up if Luffy's subordinate used advanced CoC a few seconds earlier lol. Also the clear fact it doesn't even look like advanced CoC and you realise this is a zorotard delusion that should be laughed at.
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It's gonna be wild :

Kaido didn't egive a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all. He denies it completely

This is similar to when:
  • Kaido wonders "why does his blade have Oden's presence."
At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.
  • Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as imbued CoC attack.
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks

Look at Luffy's case:

  • When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
  • When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
  • When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!


As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC! And He surely has no adCoC!

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!

We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!


But when Kaido feels Oden's presence in Enma and confirms it. We also see visuals that enma have weird aura around it


You and other fanboys :

There's no Oden's haki/presnce in the balde

Kaido mistook Zoro's haki for Oden's! A blade can't store a presence or haki


Funnily :
when Kaido just wonders if Zoro has CoC without Oda showing visuals of zoro using CoC and no confirmations from Zoro and Kaiod
Fanboys : Zoro is confirmed to have CoC coz Kaido wondered...felt it might be CoC
So it is CoC and Ashura was imbued with CoC thuse Zoro has AdCoC too.
LOL you can't deny Oden's presence/haki being in enma which had visuals and confirmations from Kaido then accept Zoro having adCoC or using CoC without any visuals and confirmations based on a mere question from Kaido

Oda also never said you need CoCc to scar/hurt kaido! You need ryuo to hurt Kaido if you lack internal attacks or hax or enough power.
Retainers issue was AP not CoC or haki.
Kaido never said " you couldn't reopen it cause your haki sucks or you lack CoC"

This arc:

Kaido has always wondered --> confirmed ---> made comparisons
Whenever something seems odd. Whenever he felt haki or was hurt (Enma, CoA or CoC or adCoC)

Right now...Oda stopped kaido at wondering points

So far in this arc :
  • Brook wondered if Zoro used CoC ---> zoro denies
  • Kaido wonders if Zoro used CoC/has CoC --> Zoro denies

In both cases :
  • we don't see visuals of CoC emitting from Zoro before or when he attacked/talks!
  • we see Brook mistook The earthquake came from Zoro screaming madly!
  • Which might mean Kaido also mistook Zoro's intiimidating spirit being CoC!
Does Zoro have CoC? *Yeah maybe*
Does he have adCoC? No

Visuals or confirmations on Panels are always proof of someone using haki especially for the first time if it is a strawhat! Which Zoro doesn't have yet!

In Oden and Kidd cases, Oda made direct comparisons statement from Kaido and Ashura about Luffy using CoC just like them.

Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.

If side characters (like kata, fuji, coby) can be shown with visual when using CoO or CoC then surely Zoro would also get them for CoC if he has it.
Oda also won't have Zoro's CoC /new skill moment be lackluster...not have visuals.

@playa4321 @Sentinel @comrade @Celestial D. Dragon @sanjikun @WesMidnight @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo @Hades
Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.


Reread the bolded part after reading the opening post.

I told yY'all to be patient and Oda did what he always does: draw visuals when someone uses CoC
it's funny how Zoro fanboys now claim "zoro didn't use CoC or adcoc on the roof" in order to wank him more
But when I said he didn't use adcoc and his CoC isn't confirmed yet, they came insulting me lol
 

Peroroncino

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Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.


Reread the bolded part after reading the opening post.

I told yY'all to be patient and Oda did what he always does: draw visuals when someone uses CoC
it's funny how Zoro fanboys now claim "zoro didn't use CoC or adcoc on the roof" in order to wank him more
But when I said he didn't use adcoc and his CoC isn't confirmed yet, they came insulting me lol
you got no W here just because you said oda would draw zoro's coc the same way he does with the others.
you said he didn't have coc and that kaido didn't know what he was talking about so take your L and stop pretending that saying obvious stuff is a win for you.
 
So was it adv CoC on the rooftop asura or are you trying to play both sides like some zorotards?
Its basic Coc at the rooftop
No black lightning attached no advCoC
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Be patient, Oda will make it clear with visuals if Zoro truly has CoC.
He will draw the CoC sparks or burst around Zoro when he attacks/glares , make clear comments frm other characters even if Zoro isn't aware...we would see CoC usage clearly.


Reread the bolded part after reading the opening post.

I told yY'all to be patient and Oda did what he always does: draw visuals when someone uses CoC
it's funny how Zoro fanboys now claim "zoro didn't use CoC or adcoc on the roof" in order to wank him more
But when I said he didn't use adcoc and his CoC isn't confirmed yet, they came insulting me lol
Ndule didnt lie on this one
Zoro dudnt have advcoc on Asura
Just Ryou and maybe basic CoC just like the one used by katakuri
 
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