Zoro - Oden Parallels

What's more likely the point of these parallels?

  • Zoro cuts Kaido like Oden did

    Votes: 45 60.8%
  • Zoro becomes the Strongest swordsman in Wano like Oden was

    Votes: 39 52.7%
  • Zoro surpasses Oden by making Enma black (in this arc)

    Votes: 18 24.3%
  • Zoro defeats Oden's betrayer Orochi

    Votes: 16 21.6%
  • Zoro gets with Oden's daughter

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Zoro teaches Oden's son a technique that he uses in a fight

    Votes: 8 10.8%
  • Zoro is Oden's son

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zoro is a student of Oden's student Denjiro

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Zoro will be lead Oden's scabbards as their general

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Zoro ets Conquerers Haki like Oden

    Votes: 14 18.9%

  • Total voters
    74
Nice catch but to me I never had any doubt about the obvious link between these two. Oda wouldn't have focused on Oden so much if Zoro wasn't meant to fight Kaido, simply because you don't spend 3 months flashback about a swordsman if it won't be another to finish his job.
 
Can you stop already troll?
The result of the scenes were totally different

Zoro vs Kuma: Zoro endured Luffy's pain, knocked out Sanji that tried to suicide with his sword hilt, and ended up standing strong saying "Nothing happened"

Lolden vs Kuma in that moment: Oden entered the room be like "I will cut you Orochi!!" Orochi: "but but Kaido", Lolden: "no but but I will cut you first!!1!" Yet he left the room dancing naked



Lolden can't dream of being like a Zoro.
 
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if shanks is stronger why is zoro chasing mihawk not shanks? Why isn’t shanks the wss then? mihawk is stronger than shanks whether you like it not. put some respect on mihawks title. Ain’t no such thing as a technical swordsman. Roger and shanks are both swordsmen who failed to turn their blades black like mihawk did. Mihawk>roger and shanks. Mihawk isn’t a "mere Shichibukai" when he’s the wss waiting for someone stronger than a Yonko.
If you think Shanks isn't strong enough to fight Mihawk and Vista is... LOL

Mihawk hasn't fought or beaten a Yonko. This is obvious from the way the Marines used him at Marieneford and from the force they sent to take him. He's not beyond a Yonko.

Mihawk doesn't fight someone like Shanks because he understands his skills don't surpass destiny. He showed this himself by legitimately testing Luffy at a point where the latter couldn't even scratch him, but his skill wasn't enough to have him defeat Luffy that day. Shanks, Roger, and others (likely all conquerors) have something greater than just ability that takes them to the next level. Mihawk won't just walk up those guys and beat them because he's good enough to have a black sword. Rayleigh took on Kizaru with a strength that impressed people in a way that Mihawk hasn't.

Until Mihawk actually beats someone at YC level or higher, he's not an actual Yonko level
 

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If you think Shanks isn't strong enough to fight Mihawk and Vista is... LOL

Mihawk hasn't fought or beaten a Yonko. This is obvious from the way the Marines used him at Marieneford and from the force they sent to take him. He's not beyond a Yonko.

Mihawk doesn't fight someone like Shanks because he understands his skills don't surpass destiny. He showed this himself by legitimately testing Luffy at a point where the latter couldn't even scratch him, but his skill wasn't enough to have him defeat Luffy that day. Shanks, Roger, and others (likely all conquerors) have something greater than just ability that takes them to the next level. Mihawk won't just walk up those guys and beat them because he's good enough to have a black sword. Rayleigh took on Kizaru with a strength that impressed people in a way that Mihawk hasn't.

Until Mihawk actually beats someone at YC level or higher, he's not an actual Yonko level
You haven’t answered any of my questions cos u obviously don’t have an answer for them without using dumb headcannon. Who has shanks fought that’s stronger than mihawk? dragon hasn’t beaten anyone and is feat less. guess he’s commander level too right? Ever heard of something called portrayal? Cos Mihawk’s portrayal shits on the yonkos. mihawk is waiting for someone stronger than a yonko. was mentioned in the same breath as wb and shanks. stop bringing up vista. he was happy mihawk even knew him. Mihawk wasn’t even looking at him when they fought and yet he still couldn’t touch mihawk. Mihawk carries a title of strength just like wb but somehow isn’t yonko level? see how flawed and dumb ur arguments are. mihawk is without a doubt yonko level.
 
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If you think Shanks isn't strong enough to fight Mihawk and Vista is... LOL

Mihawk hasn't fought or beaten a Yonko. This is obvious from the way the Marines used him at Marieneford and from the force they sent to take him. He's not beyond a Yonko.

Mihawk doesn't fight someone like Shanks because he understands his skills don't surpass destiny. He showed this himself by legitimately testing Luffy at a point where the latter couldn't even scratch him, but his skill wasn't enough to have him defeat Luffy that day. Shanks, Roger, and others (likely all conquerors) have something greater than just ability that takes them to the next level. Mihawk won't just walk up those guys and beat them because he's good enough to have a black sword. Rayleigh took on Kizaru with a strength that impressed people in a way that Mihawk hasn't.

Until Mihawk actually beats someone at YC level or higher, he's not an actual Yonko level
Mihawk is above yonko level you’re right don’t put him on yonko level. Shanks is a swordsman so he’s inferior to Mihawk . Shanks Rogers and rayleigh have some new power due to conquerors ? Lol take that to fan fiction.net no proof of that. They are swordman and thus inferior to Mihawk .
 
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You haven’t answered any of my questions cos u obviously don’t have an answer for them without using dumb headcannon. Who has shanks fought that’s stronger than mihawk?
Shanks is confirmed to have fought Kaido. He also clashed with Whitebeard on panel. When he suggested that he would take everyone on in Marieneford, they backed down because they couldn't afford to take on another monster. Darkness quaking Teach declined his offer to fight as well. He's clearly earned one of the highest bounties by far so questioning his power doesn't make sense.

dragon hasn’t beaten anyone and is feat less. guess he’s commander level too right?
No one was talking about Dragon so your comment is irrelevant but obviously if the guy has the name recognition to shock the Shichibukai, if Iva has a respectable showing, if he commanded Kuma, and his second in command can wipe the floor with one of Blackbeard's mainstays, he's pretty legit.

Ever heard of something called portrayal? Cos Mihawk’s portrayal shits on the yonkos.
List who he's beaten and who trembles at his mention. Anything like Big Mom who makes YCs cry? kaido who scared the shit out of Dofy? Has he ever smashed an admiral like Newgate?

mihawk is waiting for someone stronger than a yonko. was mentioned in the same breath as wb and shanks.
Post the scene where he explicitly says stronger than a Yonko by name or by title. Post a scene where they mention him at Yonko level by name or title.



stop bringing up vista. he was happy mihawk even knew him. Mihawk wasn’t even looking at him when they fought and yet he still couldn’t touch mihawk.
Mihawk said only a fool didn't know him. That was Vista gaining credibility and keeping it as Mihawk didn't scratch him either.


Mihawk carries a title of strength just like wb but somehow isn’t yonko level? see how flawed and dumb ur arguments are. mihawk is without a doubt yonko level.
You point to things that don't correlate to what I say, that's a straw man type of logic. I feel like if you write one piece it would be from Bellamy's perspective because your statements are a gross form of trolling. WSS is a solid title but we are pretty easily led to believe that he hasn't beaten the top four pirates in any competition at the height of their strength.
 
what special power? ko fodders and breaking some wood?
Yes, because it's the spring of 2009 and we don't know jack shit about Haki yet. Here's how the actual characters see color of conqueror... check out speechless Mihawk. And Zoro, the actually important character. He wouldn't follow Luffy without it.





 
Yes, because it's the spring of 2009 and we don't know jack shit about Haki yet. Here's how the actual characters see color of conqueror... check out speechless Mihawk. And Zoro, the actually important character. He wouldn't follow Luffy without it.





Yea as per rayleighs explanation it’s just the power to intimidate and overwhelm foes with your mere existence . Things that Mihawk and zoro have done . So no it’s not a haki suit of armor or slowing down time . So explain to me again how shanks having Coc puts him above Mihawk when shanks is just a swordman ?
 
Just? He says right there that it's a quality likely found in many of those who make names for themselves. Right there. It goes hand in hand with Luffy's Rayleigh, Zoro, saying they'd have found a new captain if he didn't have it. Is Zoro that scared of fodder? No, lol, if you even want to try that, as he also says he doesn't mind mowing through fodder.

Shanks having the destiny of a conqueror is why even if Mihawk started out better, their two positions are incomparable. The government used and is now hunting Mihawk. The Yonko are the pirates they haven't attacked with less than their whole HQ. Including Mihawk.
 
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