Speculations Zoro & Sanji vs King & Queen
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People are overthinking it. It's another Luffy vs. Crocodile, Zoro vs. Daz Bones and Sanji vs. Bon Kurei. That's all there is to it.
Oda is practically the same trope, from Alabasta to Dressrosa to Wano. Big baddy takes over a country, and Straw Hats have to liberate it.
Alabasta - 1st Warlord - - - Luffy starts beating Warlords for the first time
Dressrosa - Last Warlord - - - Luffy finishes fighting Warlords for the last time
Wano - 1st Emperor - - - Luffy starts to fight Emperors for the first time
And the same pattern
Alabasta -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Dressrosa -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate (alive)
Wano -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Sanji did more to Doflamingo, than Jozu, a guy equal to or stronger than Queen, did. Don't worry about Sanji he will be fine against Queen.
The man's CoO went toe to toe with Katakuri:
Oda is practically the same trope, from Alabasta to Dressrosa to Wano. Big baddy takes over a country, and Straw Hats have to liberate it.
Alabasta - 1st Warlord - - - Luffy starts beating Warlords for the first time
Dressrosa - Last Warlord - - - Luffy finishes fighting Warlords for the last time
Wano - 1st Emperor - - - Luffy starts to fight Emperors for the first time
And the same pattern
Alabasta -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Dressrosa -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate (alive)
Wano -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Sanji did more to Doflamingo, than Jozu, a guy equal to or stronger than Queen, did. Don't worry about Sanji he will be fine against Queen.
The man's CoO went toe to toe with Katakuri:
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There are only 5 flying characters in Wano: Kaido, Luffy, Big Mom, King and Sanji. Marco could join the alliance before the final battle.
I can't see King be defeated only by someone who is not able to fly and Sanji won't defeat solo the only decent opponent with a katana who is not a secret ally so these are the only possible matchups i can see:
1- Sanji and Zoro vs King
2- Luffy vs King
3- Marco vs King
4- Sanji and Zoro vs King and Queen
5- Zoro and someone who can hit a flying opponent (Usop?) vs King
Sanji and someone who can be of some help against Queen's biological weapons (Chopper?) vs Queen
1- it would be a bit lame to see them fight someone weaker than end of WCI Luffy and after their PUs. It could happen but i think King is too weak for them together
2- this doesn't make sense. We know Luffy is stronger
3- it would be weird to see Marco fight the only guy with a katana and the strongest subordinate of Kaido but it's a possibility
4- the perfect one. It'd makes sense and it would be a very tough matchup for the 2 strawhats and the 2 calamity
5- I'd like to see it
From the most probable to the less:
4 > 5 > 1 >> 3 >>>>>>>>> 2
I can't see King be defeated only by someone who is not able to fly and Sanji won't defeat solo the only decent opponent with a katana who is not a secret ally so these are the only possible matchups i can see:
1- Sanji and Zoro vs King
2- Luffy vs King
3- Marco vs King
4- Sanji and Zoro vs King and Queen
5- Zoro and someone who can hit a flying opponent (Usop?) vs King
Sanji and someone who can be of some help against Queen's biological weapons (Chopper?) vs Queen
1- it would be a bit lame to see them fight someone weaker than end of WCI Luffy and after their PUs. It could happen but i think King is too weak for them together
2- this doesn't make sense. We know Luffy is stronger
3- it would be weird to see Marco fight the only guy with a katana and the strongest subordinate of Kaido but it's a possibility
4- the perfect one. It'd makes sense and it would be a very tough matchup for the 2 strawhats and the 2 calamity
5- I'd like to see it
From the most probable to the less:
4 > 5 > 1 >> 3 >>>>>>>>> 2
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People are overthinking it. It's another Luffy vs. Crocodile, Zoro vs. Daz Bones and Sanji vs. Bon Kurei. That's all there is to it.
Oda is practically the same trope, from Alabasta to Dressrosa to Wano. Big baddy takes over a country, and Straw Hats have to liberate it.
Alabasta - 1st Warlord - - - Luffy starts beating Warlords for the first time
Dressrosa - Last Warlord - - - Luffy finishes fighting Warlords for the last time
Wano - 1st Emperor - - - Luffy starts to fight Emperors for the first time
And the same pattern
Alabasta -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Dressrosa -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate (alive)
Wano -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Sanji did more to Doflamingo, than Jozu, a guy equal to or stronger than Queen, did. Don't worry about Sanji he will be fine against Queen.
The man's CoO went toe to toe with Katakuri:
Oda is practically the same trope, from Alabasta to Dressrosa to Wano. Big baddy takes over a country, and Straw Hats have to liberate it.
Alabasta - 1st Warlord - - - Luffy starts beating Warlords for the first time
Dressrosa - Last Warlord - - - Luffy finishes fighting Warlords for the last time
Wano - 1st Emperor - - - Luffy starts to fight Emperors for the first time
And the same pattern
Alabasta -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Dressrosa -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate (alive)
Wano -> Zoro solos strongest subordinate
Sanji did more to Doflamingo, than Jozu, a guy equal to or stronger than Queen, did. Don't worry about Sanji he will be fine against Queen.
The man's CoO went toe to toe with Katakuri:
Where do you rank King and queen compared to Doffy and katakuri
I think you are misunderstanding this whole thing.
None of those are flying characters, they just can fly which doesnt equal to them fighting by flying.
Doffy could fly and yet spend 99% of his fight on the ground. Big Mom was never flying except on the naval battle.
Kaku and Jabra could fly and yet spent their fights on the ground and got beaten by characters who cannot fly.
None of those are flying characters, they just can fly which doesnt equal to them fighting by flying.
Doffy could fly and yet spend 99% of his fight on the ground. Big Mom was never flying except on the naval battle.
Kaku and Jabra could fly and yet spent their fights on the ground and got beaten by characters who cannot fly.
But he was defeated by Luffy, a character able to fly in G4, and fought various times in the air, even during the final clash.
Kaku and Jabura are able to fly, they don't have a fruit of an animal whose main feature is a big pair of wings. Moreover he has two wings even in his base form, so he might even show four wings in hybrid.
I can't see him lose to someone unable to fly alone.
Kaku and Jabura are able to fly, they don't have a fruit of an animal whose main feature is a big pair of wings. Moreover he has two wings even in his base form, so he might even show four wings in hybrid.
I can't see him lose to someone unable to fly alone.
whats this stupidity that u gotta be able to fly to fight King lmao so 99% of the people can't fight him including top tiers?
and i like how people say zoro wont reach him...damn zoro too stronk...Kingu will just run away at the sight of zoro?
for all we know King has to come close to attack not even mentioning zoro has ranged slashes
anyway there wont be any team up...this arc zoro gonna shine between the sh's and his main fight wont be a tag team
why would sanji fans even want that? even swordless zoro at davy back was the leader of the zoro sanji tag team and the one delivering the finishing blow
and i like how people say zoro wont reach him...damn zoro too stronk...Kingu will just run away at the sight of zoro?
for all we know King has to come close to attack not even mentioning zoro has ranged slashes
anyway there wont be any team up...this arc zoro gonna shine between the sh's and his main fight wont be a tag team
why would sanji fans even want that? even swordless zoro at davy back was the leader of the zoro sanji tag team and the one delivering the finishing blow
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It's not that Zoro can't defeat him for that reason but King can't show us everything if he is forced to fight on land or its proximity.
It would be as seeing Kaku fight without using his neck for the shigan or as a whip, it would have been possible but why should Oda have given to him the giraffe devil fruit?
It would be as seeing Kaku fight without using his neck for the shigan or as a whip, it would have been possible but why should Oda have given to him the giraffe devil fruit?
Sanji is the only one that might fight a calamity
- Sanji vs P1 ending being offpanelled
- the horrible Sanji and Drake "fight" in the capital and the following off panel
- Drake saving Law
- Drake revealing himself as a member of Sword
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