Lol, no - only because I do not agree with your little fanfiction, doesn't mean I'm trying to wank Sanji there.
Nice try.
Which delusions if I may ask?
Then why did you imply it on your previous post? Are you backtracking now?
Let's see, you're trying now to prove that Sanji did not even block the sharp-edge?
First of all, that was actually a good attempt to prove your assertion, I have to admit that. Usually, you just go in circles and are talking your usual blabla but yeah, this part wasn't bad lol.
However, if it was just that, however Oda clearly drew the lines differently than you drew it in that panel:
And compared to the drawings at the bottom left corner, the glaive's shape looks are also more difficult to judge since we cannot see much from the shockwave and the different lines.
Furthermore, if Sanji was just deflecting the blade, the blade itself would go on a different direction and yet, Sanji fully stopped its momentum - that's just possible if he clashes with said blade head-on.
Look at this:
Daifuku is pulling another strike again since he was unable to hit the Sunny due to Sanji.
Your CoO is weak, that's why you cannot think ahead for several seconds.
Nope, we are in square one again.
Facts*
After all, everyone can see your Kopfkanonen and the written stuff which comes from your pure imagination, lol.
Wow, when I just started praising your argument, the very next moment you took a dump again. It was my fault for keeping up my expectations that high, lmao.
For 102nd time, no cuts on Kaido are happening without Ryuo, you can cry Muh swords all you want but swords itself won't cut Kaido.
Stop trying, I totally destroyed your little hope of Haki not being able to cut with this part:
Flying slashes + Haki
Btw, using Haki on your swords is already flowing haki/Ryuou.
Zoro's 1080 PC against Pica
And nameless Ryuo slashes
The difference between non Ryuo and Ryuo slashes are ridiculously huge as you can see.
Haki itself adapts on every fighting style and nature of attack; it can be part of a flying slash, part of magma, mochi and anything else. Getting emotional over it and throwing a tantrum won't bring you anything here.
Finally, we're making some progresses here! Listen bro, I've included the scabbards's fighting style - swordsmanship - as well when I talked about their Haki and I also pointed this out several times as you can read on this page and the previous one. I know that Haki without sharp weapons won't cut but as long as you use Haki with sharp weapons, it can cut as well.
Or in Gramp Hyo's words:
In conclusion: Yes, I AM schooling you. You gonna cry?
Once again: Well, you can do everything you like with that amount of information but the panels above clearly confirms my description of BoAT. Hence I don't really care whether you cry about this or not since it is clear that YOU don't know what the actual fuck BoAT is.
You told me your thoughts and that's it. Stay mad at the thought that you just got schooled in BoAT.
Why are you blatantly lying like that? Are you not embarassed?
Once again, read carefully:
That's Kyoshiro's explanation of BoAT, it confirms my statements once again.
Hyo literally told the same description, it also confirms my statements.
When Zoro is about to cut Daz Bones and yes, he was using BoAT against him.
BoAT is both CoO and CoA, get your facts straight lmao.
Stop talking horse crap.
Oda literally connected all those statements into one thing:
What an embarassment, lol.
Huh, what are you talking about?
If the manga states that Wano samurais refers AdCoA as Ryuo or the ability to choose whether you cut something or not, then it is a fucking fact. Why should I say the contrast then? Manga canon >>> your fanfiction. Don't worry, you'll learn it soon enough...
Lmao, lemme just quote some stuff
Even that single quote - which you disingenuously pulled out of context to push your useless agenda even further - was elaborated far more detailed on several occasions:
Exposing your lies sure is an easy task.
1.) Which hope was just killed? Your hope of Sanji "deflecting" Daifuku's attack? I agree.
2.) Yeah, post a panel of someone cleaving Sanji's leg off, I'll wait.
3.) Their swords are the weapon of choice to unleash their swordsmanship and their Haki was the reason why they even cut someone like Kaido.
4.) Says the manga:
Burden on proof is on you whether the Scabbards can cut Kaido without Ryuo or not. Have fun, after I destroyed your little "HuH? I cAn'T sEe ThEiR fLoWiNg HaKi?!?!" with a perfect instance, you literally have nothing left, your single hope is left in the dust after all.
I dunno whether you conveniently left important stuff out just to piss me off or not but yet again, you praising swords is literally useless. It only amplies to extremely skilled swordsmen in Ryuo, everyone else should prove that they can scratch Kaido at best.
My arrow example once again: It's like saying "Arrows enhanced with Ryuo pierced Kaido and thus, arrows are too broken for brawlers" without considering the entire context - that's just pure stupidity.
Swordsmen like Cracker still gets their ass whooped by the likes of Jozu or Tank Man - each fighting style has its weaknesses or strength.
That's why you have been literally babyshaked entire in our debate. Forget schooling me, you cannot even school yourself about BoAT lol.
For saying BoAT is just CoO? Yeah sure.
I dunno, @Zoro D Goat understands Future Sight quite well, you on the other hand... well.
Your request is simply pure garbage, Oda did not also draw Luffy's flowing haki either when he freed Yamato from her handcuffs.
Again, lacks of reading comprehension. In the first sentence, he IS wondering why but at the second sentence, he finally grasped why they cut him.
No, you don't. And no, I understand the importance of swords, you obviously do not, and I quote: "Swords are all the same lol. There is no difference between 4th grade Kitetsu and 2nd grade Kokuto." - TheOneWhoDigsHisOwnGrave87
Once again, without Ryuo, the cut wouldn't even happen in the first place. Sure, you need a blade to perform cuts since your Haki has to adapt on said weapon but without your Haki, your weapon isn't as effective. It's an assessment you have to live with.
Already addressed it: The Scabbards only managed to stab his skin since they do have Ryuo but not the exact same strength since Ryuo is still just an application just like hardening. And there are levels of hardening as well.
You have nothing. Zero.
Why do you keep coming with "You're not young", "It's japanese drawings aimed to a young audience" when we're simply talking about clear manga statements? Lol, you do not have to be a grown up to grasp that BoAT is both CoO and CoA for example.
If the manga tells you facts, you sure listen to them and start to shut up. Nobody cares for your little fanfiction in your wildest dreams. Facts matter.
That's wrong. You can perform cuts with a glaive, you can perform cuts with a knife as well, you don't exactly need a sword to perform cuts, lol. However, you definitely needs that huge CoA mastery/Ryuo to make your swordsmanship very powerful.
People tried executing Kaido and they failed. Hence it is canon and not my headcanon. Try again.
Blades without Haki won't cut Kaido at all. Y U NO UNDERSTAND?
And yet, you are here arguing with me whether the Scabbards could still stab Kaido even without their Ryuo. Come on, just admit you were wrong and move on. You are right that you need sharp weapons to perform cuts (something which I agreed on several occasions) but acting, swords are absolutely op even without Haki is just pure wank. And btw, I AM a sword wanker, just look at my avatar lol.
So the classification of the 12 supreme grade swords is just bullshit and they are just as strong as weaker swords? And Mihawk's Yoru is just as "ordinary" as any other sword?
Then why does Zoro even try to forge Enma into a black blade if it doesn't make a difference anyway?
And why doesn't Mihawk simply flex on equally powerful enemies with his pocket knife if that doesn't make a difference with Yoru?
Seems like a lot of baseless stuff...
It is not? Do you have an example of a non haki swordsman being on par with Kinemon, let alone Denjiro, let alone Zoro, let alone Fujitora and let alone Mihawk? And Ryuo/BoAT granting the ability to cut or to not cut whenever you like isn't the more haxxed part? And forging a black blade due to Haki isn't the more haxxed part?
Yeah, of course not, after all it doesn't matter whether Zoro has forged Enma black or not.
No, it's baffling how much stuff you're pulling outta your ass. Do you have a black hole in your rectum or how comes you keep coming up with new baseless stuff? Lmao.
Are you on drugs? His Santoryu style was absolutely useless against Mr. 1 whilst Zoro one shot the latter with his Ittoryu style + BoAT.
You can literally fuck up the organs of your enemies with penetration haki and your bare fists. I take that over hakiless swords all day.
No, I'm just saying that swords are not the sole reason to cut Kaido. Whilst there are obviously extremely powerful swords (Meito, Kokuto (Yoru and Shusui), you still have to prove that you can cut Kaido without Haki.
Yes, Oden's haki indeed.
Did they cut Kaido without Haki? Do you know that? Oh, wait - we don't have any panels! That means it is still a baseless assertion of you that the Scabbards can cut Kaido without Haki.
Do You understand?
Ugh, he didn't ask whether blades can pierce or not, he asked why the blades pierced him.
Once again:
In order, Kaido asks (1) why the blades pierced him in which he's asking for the reason of this wound and (2) thinks of an answer that it was because of their Ryuo in which he thinks of an answer of said reason.
Let's look at the quote again: " (1)Why are the blades piercing through...?!! (2)Are those bastards... using Oden's Ryuou?!!"
You still can't grasp shit. I dunno if I should laugh or not lol.
And there doesn't ring a bell to you? lol
He is having a PTSD since they managed to cut him and it triggered his memories from Oden's cut. That's why he came to the conclusion that they used Oden's Ryuo to cut him. And unless the next chapter will make it clear that they did not even use Haki, I have no reason to think they didn't use Haki.
Your amount of excuses are bullshit.
There is obviously a difference between swords, ie. lower graded swords and Shusui. Zoro immediately recognized the difference in attack output when he tested Shusui for the first time.
Worth for the trashcan, your excuse.
Shusui disagrees.
Where will I get there? Into your fantasy world of higherdimensional hakiless swordsman one shotting Imu?
Hakified sword stab.*
I did not know that flying slashes can cut logia users, I must have mistaken something...
That'll be the next collection of my legendary "nik quotes" signature.
It is amazing how much you are pulling stuff outta your ass to avoid admitting that the Scabbards cutting Kaido only happened due to their Ryuo.
And you say I downplay swords. Seriously, at this point, you are just clowning around.
Next question, Yoru vs nameless club? What's stronger?
Oden has superior Haki and one of the strongest swords whilst Kaido has no mentionable Haki feats and his club wasn't portrayed to be one of the strongest weapons in da world, we agree? And yet, Oden couldn't cut through Kaido's weapon. Why??
If that nameless club equals Enma, wouldn't that downgrade your "beloved swords"?
Does Kaido have AdCoA? Kaido himself is pretty much irrelevant on that equation, Oden's Haki and his Enma matter since he couldn't cut Kaido's weapon.
What died? I see nothing which died.
You really have to stop blaming everything on the plot whenever someone debunks your ludicrous arguments.
A single instance would be reasonable, naming another one, naming the third one, naming the ninth one, however, gets ridiculous.
No, it's confirmation bias. It simply means Oda doesn't care about the swordsmen as much as you and he sees them comparable to other fighting styles, even against pure brawlers.
If you have issues against that, go write a mail to Oda, lol.
I'm not struggling with it, lol. I know that this is just your usual diarrhea and pure madness to blame everything on the plot. I still remember that debate when you tried to argue that Katakuri didn't pierce a chunk of Luffy's belly.
?!
"T-The stupid flip-slops and t-that stupid 3 steps FS, everything gets in the way of my fantasy! I don't like that! *whine*"
Lmao, that's a very pathetic attempt to dodge the inevitable.
Cracker tried piercing Tank Man's belly and he was instead assraped into oblivion. No matter whether it was his limps or not, lul.
Thanks for the lolz anyway.
Muh plot armor, Muh condom boy.
Listen kid, you simply don't have the balls to admit that Luffy just dealt with Zoro's swords fine with his flip-flops. Just move on.
Lol, I'll quote you if we ever see Roger vs Garp, okay?
...and your mental gymnastics has already started.
Nice try.
Which delusions if I may ask?
Then why did you imply it on your previous post? Are you backtracking now?
Let's see, you're trying now to prove that Sanji did not even block the sharp-edge?
First of all, that was actually a good attempt to prove your assertion, I have to admit that. Usually, you just go in circles and are talking your usual blabla but yeah, this part wasn't bad lol.
However, if it was just that, however Oda clearly drew the lines differently than you drew it in that panel:
And compared to the drawings at the bottom left corner, the glaive's shape looks are also more difficult to judge since we cannot see much from the shockwave and the different lines.
Furthermore, if Sanji was just deflecting the blade, the blade itself would go on a different direction and yet, Sanji fully stopped its momentum - that's just possible if he clashes with said blade head-on.
Look at this:
Daifuku is pulling another strike again since he was unable to hit the Sunny due to Sanji.
Your CoO is weak, that's why you cannot think ahead for several seconds.
Nope, we are in square one again.
Facts*
After all, everyone can see your Kopfkanonen and the written stuff which comes from your pure imagination, lol.
Wow, when I just started praising your argument, the very next moment you took a dump again. It was my fault for keeping up my expectations that high, lmao.
For 102nd time, no cuts on Kaido are happening without Ryuo, you can cry Muh swords all you want but swords itself won't cut Kaido.
Stop trying, I totally destroyed your little hope of Haki not being able to cut with this part:
Flying slashes + Haki
Btw, using Haki on your swords is already flowing haki/Ryuou.
Zoro's 1080 PC against Pica
And nameless Ryuo slashes
The difference between non Ryuo and Ryuo slashes are ridiculously huge as you can see.
Haki itself adapts on every fighting style and nature of attack; it can be part of a flying slash, part of magma, mochi and anything else. Getting emotional over it and throwing a tantrum won't bring you anything here.
Finally, we're making some progresses here! Listen bro, I've included the scabbards's fighting style - swordsmanship - as well when I talked about their Haki and I also pointed this out several times as you can read on this page and the previous one. I know that Haki without sharp weapons won't cut but as long as you use Haki with sharp weapons, it can cut as well.
Or in Gramp Hyo's words:
In conclusion: Yes, I AM schooling you. You gonna cry?
Once again: Well, you can do everything you like with that amount of information but the panels above clearly confirms my description of BoAT. Hence I don't really care whether you cry about this or not since it is clear that YOU don't know what the actual fuck BoAT is.
You told me your thoughts and that's it. Stay mad at the thought that you just got schooled in BoAT.
Why are you blatantly lying like that? Are you not embarassed?
Once again, read carefully:
That's Kyoshiro's explanation of BoAT, it confirms my statements once again.
Hyo literally told the same description, it also confirms my statements.
When Zoro is about to cut Daz Bones and yes, he was using BoAT against him.
BoAT is both CoO and CoA, get your facts straight lmao.
Stop talking horse crap.
Oda literally connected all those statements into one thing:
What an embarassment, lol.
Huh, what are you talking about?
If the manga states that Wano samurais refers AdCoA as Ryuo or the ability to choose whether you cut something or not, then it is a fucking fact. Why should I say the contrast then? Manga canon >>> your fanfiction. Don't worry, you'll learn it soon enough...
Lmao, lemme just quote some stuff
Even that single quote - which you disingenuously pulled out of context to push your useless agenda even further - was elaborated far more detailed on several occasions:
Exposing your lies sure is an easy task.
1.) Which hope was just killed? Your hope of Sanji "deflecting" Daifuku's attack? I agree.
2.) Yeah, post a panel of someone cleaving Sanji's leg off, I'll wait.
3.) Their swords are the weapon of choice to unleash their swordsmanship and their Haki was the reason why they even cut someone like Kaido.
4.) Says the manga:
Burden on proof is on you whether the Scabbards can cut Kaido without Ryuo or not. Have fun, after I destroyed your little "HuH? I cAn'T sEe ThEiR fLoWiNg HaKi?!?!" with a perfect instance, you literally have nothing left, your single hope is left in the dust after all.
I dunno whether you conveniently left important stuff out just to piss me off or not but yet again, you praising swords is literally useless. It only amplies to extremely skilled swordsmen in Ryuo, everyone else should prove that they can scratch Kaido at best.
My arrow example once again: It's like saying "Arrows enhanced with Ryuo pierced Kaido and thus, arrows are too broken for brawlers" without considering the entire context - that's just pure stupidity.
Swordsmen like Cracker still gets their ass whooped by the likes of Jozu or Tank Man - each fighting style has its weaknesses or strength.
That's why you have been literally babyshaked entire in our debate. Forget schooling me, you cannot even school yourself about BoAT lol.
For saying BoAT is just CoO? Yeah sure.
I dunno, @Zoro D Goat understands Future Sight quite well, you on the other hand... well.
Your request is simply pure garbage, Oda did not also draw Luffy's flowing haki either when he freed Yamato from her handcuffs.
Again, lacks of reading comprehension. In the first sentence, he IS wondering why but at the second sentence, he finally grasped why they cut him.
No, you don't. And no, I understand the importance of swords, you obviously do not, and I quote: "Swords are all the same lol. There is no difference between 4th grade Kitetsu and 2nd grade Kokuto." - TheOneWhoDigsHisOwnGrave87
Once again, without Ryuo, the cut wouldn't even happen in the first place. Sure, you need a blade to perform cuts since your Haki has to adapt on said weapon but without your Haki, your weapon isn't as effective. It's an assessment you have to live with.
Already addressed it: The Scabbards only managed to stab his skin since they do have Ryuo but not the exact same strength since Ryuo is still just an application just like hardening. And there are levels of hardening as well.
You have nothing. Zero.
Why do you keep coming with "You're not young", "It's japanese drawings aimed to a young audience" when we're simply talking about clear manga statements? Lol, you do not have to be a grown up to grasp that BoAT is both CoO and CoA for example.
If the manga tells you facts, you sure listen to them and start to shut up. Nobody cares for your little fanfiction in your wildest dreams. Facts matter.
That's wrong. You can perform cuts with a glaive, you can perform cuts with a knife as well, you don't exactly need a sword to perform cuts, lol. However, you definitely needs that huge CoA mastery/Ryuo to make your swordsmanship very powerful.
People tried executing Kaido and they failed. Hence it is canon and not my headcanon. Try again.
Blades without Haki won't cut Kaido at all. Y U NO UNDERSTAND?
And yet, you are here arguing with me whether the Scabbards could still stab Kaido even without their Ryuo. Come on, just admit you were wrong and move on. You are right that you need sharp weapons to perform cuts (something which I agreed on several occasions) but acting, swords are absolutely op even without Haki is just pure wank. And btw, I AM a sword wanker, just look at my avatar lol.
So the classification of the 12 supreme grade swords is just bullshit and they are just as strong as weaker swords? And Mihawk's Yoru is just as "ordinary" as any other sword?
Then why does Zoro even try to forge Enma into a black blade if it doesn't make a difference anyway?
And why doesn't Mihawk simply flex on equally powerful enemies with his pocket knife if that doesn't make a difference with Yoru?
Seems like a lot of baseless stuff...
It is not? Do you have an example of a non haki swordsman being on par with Kinemon, let alone Denjiro, let alone Zoro, let alone Fujitora and let alone Mihawk? And Ryuo/BoAT granting the ability to cut or to not cut whenever you like isn't the more haxxed part? And forging a black blade due to Haki isn't the more haxxed part?
Yeah, of course not, after all it doesn't matter whether Zoro has forged Enma black or not.
No, it's baffling how much stuff you're pulling outta your ass. Do you have a black hole in your rectum or how comes you keep coming up with new baseless stuff? Lmao.
Are you on drugs? His Santoryu style was absolutely useless against Mr. 1 whilst Zoro one shot the latter with his Ittoryu style + BoAT.
You can literally fuck up the organs of your enemies with penetration haki and your bare fists. I take that over hakiless swords all day.
No, I'm just saying that swords are not the sole reason to cut Kaido. Whilst there are obviously extremely powerful swords (Meito, Kokuto (Yoru and Shusui), you still have to prove that you can cut Kaido without Haki.
Yes, Oden's haki indeed.
Did they cut Kaido without Haki? Do you know that? Oh, wait - we don't have any panels! That means it is still a baseless assertion of you that the Scabbards can cut Kaido without Haki.
Do You understand?
Ugh, he didn't ask whether blades can pierce or not, he asked why the blades pierced him.
Once again:
In order, Kaido asks (1) why the blades pierced him in which he's asking for the reason of this wound and (2) thinks of an answer that it was because of their Ryuo in which he thinks of an answer of said reason.
Let's look at the quote again: " (1)Why are the blades piercing through...?!! (2)Are those bastards... using Oden's Ryuou?!!"
You still can't grasp shit. I dunno if I should laugh or not lol.
And there doesn't ring a bell to you? lol
He is having a PTSD since they managed to cut him and it triggered his memories from Oden's cut. That's why he came to the conclusion that they used Oden's Ryuo to cut him. And unless the next chapter will make it clear that they did not even use Haki, I have no reason to think they didn't use Haki.
Your amount of excuses are bullshit.
There is obviously a difference between swords, ie. lower graded swords and Shusui. Zoro immediately recognized the difference in attack output when he tested Shusui for the first time.
Worth for the trashcan, your excuse.
Shusui disagrees.
Where will I get there? Into your fantasy world of higherdimensional hakiless swordsman one shotting Imu?
Hakified sword stab.*
I did not know that flying slashes can cut logia users, I must have mistaken something...
That'll be the next collection of my legendary "nik quotes" signature.
It is amazing how much you are pulling stuff outta your ass to avoid admitting that the Scabbards cutting Kaido only happened due to their Ryuo.
And you say I downplay swords. Seriously, at this point, you are just clowning around.
Next question, Yoru vs nameless club? What's stronger?
Oden has superior Haki and one of the strongest swords whilst Kaido has no mentionable Haki feats and his club wasn't portrayed to be one of the strongest weapons in da world, we agree? And yet, Oden couldn't cut through Kaido's weapon. Why??
If that nameless club equals Enma, wouldn't that downgrade your "beloved swords"?
Does Kaido have AdCoA? Kaido himself is pretty much irrelevant on that equation, Oden's Haki and his Enma matter since he couldn't cut Kaido's weapon.
What died? I see nothing which died.
You really have to stop blaming everything on the plot whenever someone debunks your ludicrous arguments.
A single instance would be reasonable, naming another one, naming the third one, naming the ninth one, however, gets ridiculous.
No, it's confirmation bias. It simply means Oda doesn't care about the swordsmen as much as you and he sees them comparable to other fighting styles, even against pure brawlers.
If you have issues against that, go write a mail to Oda, lol.
I'm not struggling with it, lol. I know that this is just your usual diarrhea and pure madness to blame everything on the plot. I still remember that debate when you tried to argue that Katakuri didn't pierce a chunk of Luffy's belly.
?!
"T-The stupid flip-slops and t-that stupid 3 steps FS, everything gets in the way of my fantasy! I don't like that! *whine*"
Lmao, that's a very pathetic attempt to dodge the inevitable.
Cracker tried piercing Tank Man's belly and he was instead assraped into oblivion. No matter whether it was his limps or not, lul.
Thanks for the lolz anyway.
Muh plot armor, Muh condom boy.
Listen kid, you simply don't have the balls to admit that Luffy just dealt with Zoro's swords fine with his flip-flops. Just move on.
Lol, I'll quote you if we ever see Roger vs Garp, okay?
...and your mental gymnastics has already started.
