Questions & Mysteries Zoro's lineage is... Bait

[ImmaIvanoM]

the most likely explanation would be a hereditary ability , likely connected to Ashura

That’s not happening, there’s no hereditary abilities in Op. And Zoro had Ashura before he lost his eye

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

That’s not happening, there’s no hereditary abilities in Op. And Zoro had Ashura before he lost his eye

yes there are ereditary abilities , they are race abilities like electro and fishman karate.
the fact that Zoro had Asura before he lost his eye doesn't say anything about the 2 events being disconnected , this statement you made is completely illogical

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

yes there are ereditary abilities , they are race abilities like electro and fishman karate.
the fact that Zoro had Asura before he lost his eye doesn't say anything about the 2 events being disconnected , this statement you made is completely illogical

Fishman karate isn’t hereditary. Both Koala and Robin learned Fishman karate remember.

Anyway this is pointless because the 150 arc chapter that’s supposed to explain anything about Zoro didn’t. that’s a fact.

You can keep praying for the next four years again for anything to focus on Zoro again.

 

[The White Crane]

I know people are getting hyped about this but i want to remind everyone that this has already happened before. Oda already baited this Zoro lineage with the "Sunachi", "Wado Ichimonji" and Kozaburo situation. As a reminder, Oda in an SBS at the start of Wano said there is a familiar character who descended from Wano people. Then we learned Zoro is familiar with certain Wano words. Then we learn Zoro's Wado Ichimonji was made by a Wano blacksmith. Turns out this was completely about Kuina. Zoro knows Wano dialect because he heard the founder of his village, Kozaburo, say it. And Wado is the same as it has always been, a sword Zoro got from Kuina's father because he asked for it and proved his dedication to the same dream as Kuina.

Now the Bait is back. After none of the above having actually gone anywhere, Oda is laying it on thick. There's a samurai, Ushimaru who looks remarkably like Zoro, with similar fighting styles who happens to be related to Ryuma and the same Kozaburo who founded Zoro's village. It's a slam dunk now right? Hell there's even a "fate" thing with Zoro returning Shusui to Wano.

Well... why doesnt Onimaru recognize or care about Zoro's remarkable likeness to Ushimaru? Zoro was trained by Wano Samurai so why wouldn't he have a fighting style similar to them. In fact he was trained by people from the exact same family as this Ushimaru person. It's not like Zoro inherited a fighting style through his genes.

Zoro also returned another sword to Wano, Sandai Kitetsu. It was made by Hitetsu. Shouldn't that mean Zoro has some tie to Hitetsu similar to how returning Shusui means Zoro is tied to Ryuma. Uncanny resemblances go as far as Tashigi looks exactly like Kuina despite them being unrelated. And again, Zoro having One eye isnt a biological factor to tie him to Ryuma in anyway.

That's not even to mention how the timelines of these things don't work at all.

This seems like bait to me. Especially because Zoro is uninvolved entirely. Why would his lineage matter if he doesnt know or care about it? if someone were to tell him "Hey, you look exactly like this one guy we knew", wouldn't zoro just remember Tashigi and Kuina and say "So? Where's the damn booze?".

Splendid. :cheers:

 

[Finalbeta]

No genetic engineering

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

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[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

lovely bit of future sight mate

 

[mly90]

Looks like you were spot on Oda has really used every means to keep the readers invested in this arc until the end

 

[VisualKei]

Rip Shimotsuki lineage

 

[zzShinichi]

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[RayanOO]

Yeah you were right it was bait. But fuck it was stupid writing not involving Zoro more with Wano

 

[Raiden7]

Well now I can say it. Like a lot of zoro fan says "if zoro have it doesn't mean Sanji have it too". Well now it's reversed, if Sanji got a second background it doesn't mean Zoro should have it too.

 

[yorosenpai]

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I was wrong and glad you saw all these baits.

I still dont like one bit the way Oda develop all this plot just to close it without a following up (Greg member of the OP team said that Zoro lineage is as intricate as the game of thornes) That said, Oda wasted so many panels for nothing.
Baits and gotcha moments aint the right way to entertaining readers, Oda should see how low star wars drop after the new disney tryllogy (all directed by 2 iditios that used bait and gotcha moment to subvert expectations on fans)

 

[ZenZu]

Lol you just keep taking Ws eh? It's funny reading all the snarky responses to this thread.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Huge L to anyone didn't agree with the OP in this thread

 

[sanjikun]

I'll say we're not done with Wano. We still have to open the borders and reveal the "Old Wano".

A lot of Zoro stuff will come post-One Piece.

 

[yorosenpai]

Look just this thread by @Bogard:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-and-shimotsuki-the-inherited-will.17011/

As a reader you can't denied that Oda turn 180° from his original plan....no excuse will change my core opinion about Zoro lineage

 

[kumae]

Fuck oda he bait with zoro been a Shimotsuki and later abandon all the plots
Shitass author

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Look just this thread by @Bogard:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-and-shimotsuki-the-inherited-will.17011/

As a reader you can't denied that Oda turn 180° from his original plan....no excuse will change my core opinion about Zoro lineage

I think Oda turned 180 on things like Ryuma’s grave, and Zoro killing Orochi and Nidai kiietsu

This Shimotsuki nonsense though was BAIT from the beginning… I was sucked in too at first but half way through act 2 is became clear that this story wasn’t about Zoro… There was no reason NOT to actually have Zoro recognize ANYTHING in Wano or NOT have people in Wano recognize Zoro… It was too bizzare that nothing about the heritage mattered to the plot…

in fact there was so little Zoro stuff and so much Oden wank that for like a month I actually thought maybe Zoro is related to Oden..: Like that’s seemed like the only way Zoro’s heritage could matter is if it was him related to Oden because THATS ALL THAT WANO WAS ABOUT… Then Zoro started his thing with Oden’s daughter and it became clear that NOPE, that ain’t it

That’s when I first got the idea that this was all bait… All of it… And since then it just got confirmed more and more…

 

[Lor D. Coast]

You can think that Oda is the worst author ever or you can wait just a little more and see where the story goes. There's more to Wano and we still have the revos that probably brought Zoro to the Shimotsuki village and Koshiro.