Questions & Mysteries Zoro's parentage
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Like I said before I can name the same number or even more Luffy and Roger parallels and yet Luffy and Roger are not blood related... Their actual physical connection only goes as someone Luffy is related to knowing Roger
Same as Zoro, he grew up in Shimotsuki village by coincidence and befriended members of that clan and from then on its coincidence after coincidence
Hell you say Zoro looks like Ryuma but Luffy literally has the same name as Roger, the D name and yet nothing...
And Once again, we know MOST of the reasons for all these things you're saying... they are all mostly just coincidences... I don't want to actually get into the machinations of how improbable your claims are but surely you can't keep acting like we don't clearly know alot of these things are just coincidences
Same as Zoro, he grew up in Shimotsuki village by coincidence and befriended members of that clan and from then on its coincidence after coincidence
Hell you say Zoro looks like Ryuma but Luffy literally has the same name as Roger, the D name and yet nothing...
And Once again, we know MOST of the reasons for all these things you're saying... they are all mostly just coincidences... I don't want to actually get into the machinations of how improbable your claims are but surely you can't keep acting like we don't clearly know alot of these things are just coincidences
"First time - coincidence, Second time - accident, Third time - regularity", don't know if you have the same proverb in English. I would think it about as coincidence if it was one, two, or three times, but not every one.
And what with this D shit? So Xebec, Garp, Dragon, Law, Teach are all Roger's descendants now?
And the difference between Luffy and Zoro is that we know about Luffy's parents, his father was revealed, and we know jackshit about Zoro's parents, and then suddenly Oda makes Ushimaru's silhouette looks like Zoro with Ponytail and links him every single one Shimotsuki stuffs.
And what with this D shit? So Xebec, Garp, Dragon, Law, Teach are all Roger's descendants now?
And the difference between Luffy and Zoro is that we know about Luffy's parents, his father was revealed, and we know jackshit about Zoro's parents, and then suddenly Oda makes Ushimaru's silhouette looks like Zoro with Ponytail and links him every single one Shimotsuki stuffs.
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So is Luffy also Roger's hidden son?
Btw by coincidence I don't mean Oda himself isn't deliberately making a parallel.... obviously he is... by coincidence I mean in the actual story there's no causality for it... There's only narrative reasons... Like there's no causality why Zoro ended up with Shusui... He just heard there was a very good sword on Thriller bark and thats it... He ended up with the Wano national treasure of out pure coincidence... Not that it's his birthright or whatever... of course there's narrative reasons why Zoro had to get shusui but only us readers know that... so in the end it was just a coincidence
Oda has even went as far as giving another narrative Reason why Zoro ended up with Wado by saying it was training for Enma... But in the actual story there's no causality for this... If Kuina's family sword was Yubashiri then Zoro would've asked for Yubashiri and thad the sword he would have... So its all juSt a all coincidence
The only single thing that be beyond a coincidence is Zoro literally being born... Like someone had to have given birth to him so the most concrete thing about Zoro so far is that he was born... How he ended up in that Dojo could also bare something but it also could just be plain coincidence... But after that, everything else is just a coincidence and extrapolating that to say It's a blood relation is wayyy too premature at this point
Because like I said, if the measure for Zoro being related to someone is coincidental parallels then Luffy muSt be Roger's son or Roger reincarnated as Luffy himself or something like that
Btw by coincidence I don't mean Oda himself isn't deliberately making a parallel.... obviously he is... by coincidence I mean in the actual story there's no causality for it... There's only narrative reasons... Like there's no causality why Zoro ended up with Shusui... He just heard there was a very good sword on Thriller bark and thats it... He ended up with the Wano national treasure of out pure coincidence... Not that it's his birthright or whatever... of course there's narrative reasons why Zoro had to get shusui but only us readers know that... so in the end it was just a coincidence
Oda has even went as far as giving another narrative Reason why Zoro ended up with Wado by saying it was training for Enma... But in the actual story there's no causality for this... If Kuina's family sword was Yubashiri then Zoro would've asked for Yubashiri and thad the sword he would have... So its all juSt a all coincidence
The only single thing that be beyond a coincidence is Zoro literally being born... Like someone had to have given birth to him so the most concrete thing about Zoro so far is that he was born... How he ended up in that Dojo could also bare something but it also could just be plain coincidence... But after that, everything else is just a coincidence and extrapolating that to say It's a blood relation is wayyy too premature at this point
Because like I said, if the measure for Zoro being related to someone is coincidental parallels then Luffy muSt be Roger's son or Roger reincarnated as Luffy himself or something like that
Well no, you have to give us proof that Reincarnation is a thing that line rally exists in one piece before saying this... that means you"ll have to explain the afterlife and religions and God in One piece
If you mean Luffy is METAPHORICALLY the reincarnation of Roger then that's fine but we arent talking metaphors, we are talking about Who Zoro's literal parents are
Like who exactly gave birth to Zoro and where are they now and why doesn't Zoro talk about them if he knows them or if he doesn't know them why doesn't he care and who actually raised him then
If you mean Luffy is METAPHORICALLY the reincarnation of Roger then that's fine but we arent talking metaphors, we are talking about Who Zoro's literal parents are
Like who exactly gave birth to Zoro and where are they now and why doesn't Zoro talk about them if he knows them or if he doesn't know them why doesn't he care and who actually raised him then
Of course it's metaphorically. And about Zoro's parents.
Read this theory, I think it's pretty good ( except few parts ). https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/zoro-and-denjiro.1478
Read this theory, I think it's pretty good ( except few parts ). https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/zoro-and-denjiro.1478
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Yes, he didnt expand on zoros lineage, in a moment where he already expanded on koushiro...would have been a good moment, right?
i dont exactly see how this is adressing my point.
Here's something people don't even consider, Zoro might completely bot habe any blood ties to Wano. For example his name. Zoro's name is a mixture of French name and a Spanish name. Like Of course Oda emphasize the Japanese motif for Zoro but going by Zoro's name which should be a direct link to his family, Zoro doesn't have a Japanese name... I know people expect Zoro to have a secret Japanese name to make this make sense but why doesn't anyone care anyone about the name he has now... Like where did it come from even if they think it's fake...
This is a very weird way of seeing this that is very prevelant regarding this topic... Zoro's name is a clear connection to hid parents that no one wants to consider and instead look for less concrete things like a vague silhoutte because Zoro MUST BE FROM WANO
