Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[Guymieux]

Its getting tiring with all those people quoting me but I said what I wanted to say

Anyway on topic; chapter full of "new" attacks but it's not clear if its effective AT ALL
Probably just for artistically pleasing purposes but gonna enjoy it either way

Post the sbs where Oda called Sanji Luffys wing you liar ! @bennbeckman quote this for this bozo it seems he’s ignored me

 

[Ravagerblade]

You are always exchanging insults every time i see you trying to trigger people he has a good point

I don't try to trigger people, I call them out on their idiocy and hypocrisy.
Finalbeta Just showed how hypocritical he is by not calling guy out seeing as he made that message, I only copy pasted it.

 

[yj]

Call me when zoro surpasses kinnemon as a swordamn vs kaudo first

Oden's sword with Oden's haki inside ...
Zoro needs enma to do what Kinnemon could

he already did you nutcase if zoro didn’t surpass kinemon why did he pass up on enma? why was he was in awe of zoros raw power in dressrosa? Zoro literally saw his moves and stole it. Stop this dumb nonsense

 

[bennbeckman]

Also if Sanji was portrayed at this moment as Zoro's rival, why is he currently not on the roof.

I as a fan would think if they are meant to be toe to toe rivals I would think that they would both be on the roof fighting Kaido and BM alongside Luffy and Company, but at this very moment Oda separated them both and kept Zoro on top with Luffy while Sanji is currently in the Dome (most presumably fighting King and Queen with Marco IMO)

Oda can easily flip the script and kill the Sanji Zoro rivalry and make Zoro's new Rival Killer, again this isnt me saying Definite but It seems (based of last 3 chapters) a much bigger possibility. IDK what Oda will do with the Z and S rivalry, just entering in a hypothetical

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Yes, interested since Kinemon. He fulfilled it in Enma training though, being interested in PH means he hadn't trained it at the first time seeing Kinemon cutting fire.

Luffy said "its kinemon's technique"

Zoro "its mine now".

Mine now = not mine before that = finished being able to do itin enma training

Bro where are you getting Enma training gave him fire cutting from? Bro thats your headcanon

 

[Rivaille]

Didn't know that overpowering Fujitora's gravity and pushing him back with one sword was an L..

You should know by no that for some people everything Zoro does is either unimpressive or a L

 

[CbShadow]

Since Oda is pushing to released three chapters before a break I wonder if next chapter will continue to focus on Yonkos vs SN. I hope that happens. That would be awesome.

If that does happen that might mean next chapter we might start to see the Yonkos beat the SN.

 

[Guymieux]

Call me when zoro surpasses kinnemon as a swordamn vs kaudo first

Oden's sword with Oden's haki inside ...
Zoro needs enma to do what Kinnemon could

Odens haki inside? Stop making shit up you liar . Get a life

 

[Jackteo]

Truth hurts

 

[Kuro Ashi]

You brought up the movie point and there was a scene where Zoro literally neg diffed sanji. If we're just talking about the manga the argument they are close in power is only logical in Pre TimeSkip, they both fought against rival antagonists, etc. Post Time Skip it's just a gag, there's no where near the powergrab of pretimeskip

Pre time skip it was the same thing. From post Alabasta all the way to EL, Zoro seemed to be quite a bit stronger than Sanji based solely on feats and how much fights they got.

Even in the Sea Train Luffy and Zoro were doing combo attacks while Sanji was fighting Wanze, and by the end of that arc Zoro and Sanji fought Kaku and Jabra.

The context in which i brought up the movies among other stuff doesn't rely on discussing a single depiction at one point in time, but the general manner in which the rivalry between the two is pushed in all mediums One Piece can be experienced.

 

[Guymieux]

We all know you’re crying inside buddy

 

[CbShadow]

Call me when zoro surpasses kinnemon as a swordamn vs kaudo first

Oden's sword with Oden's haki inside ...
Zoro needs enma to do what Kinnemon could

What are you even talking about. The sword right now is holding him back. He would be much stronger if he had his old sword.

 

[WesMidnight]

Zoro is stronger (always been that way).

Both had equal Aokiji portrayal.
Kaku=Jyabura, and Sanji beat Jyabura with less difficulty, despite being nerfed.
Both had equal pacifista portrayal.
Both had equal Surume portrayal.
330m>320m

You can headcanon that Zoro is much stronger for whatever reason, but to argue that has always been the case is simply not true.

Funny how the fastest WG member on the roof is the one to get hit multiple times

They have been targeting Luffy 90% of the time, they hate him the most, and he is by far the biggest threat there.

Also Luffy may switch target soon enough because Big Mom is there and I don't think Zoro and Luffy are going to focus on the same yonko due constituting the two strongest fighters by hype and portrayal.

Luffy said he will deal with Mom after he beats Kaido.

Strawhat top 5 fighter element,

Luffy : Fire

Zoro : Fire + Wind

Jinbei : Water

Yamato : Thunder

Sanji : Fire

Luffy is a lightning user also.

We have barrier or internal destruction its prob barrier what the scabbards have but Oden, Shanks,Roger,WB and Rocks have definitly internal destruction

Oden didn't have internal destruction, he died in chains.

 

[yj]

I’m wheezing these captains are so trash zoro hasnt even taken the offensive he’s only been on the defensive and he’s already outshining them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[ShishioIsBack]

If he is stronger than Benn Beckman then he is more than enough to frighten KIZARU!

And old Ryleigh was not so bad against Kizaru, so considering the facts we can literally say following his logic that we have 2 admirals fighting against kaido, and other LOL. This is undoubtedly the greatest combat achievement.

Kizaru > Benn Beckman and Rayleigh imo

Tho Kaido would high diff an admiral

 

[Guymieux]

Both had equal Aokiji portrayal.
Kaku=Jyabura, and Sanji beat Jyabura with less difficulty, despite being nerfed.
Both had equal pacifista portrayal.
Both had equal Surume portrayal.
330m>320m

You can headcanon that Zoro is much stronger for whatever reason, but to argue that has always been the case is simply not true.


They have been targeting Luffy 90% of the time, they hate him the most, and he is by far the biggest threat there.

Luffy said he will deal with Mom after he beats Kaido.

Luffy is a lightning user also.


Oden didn't have internal destruction, he died in chains.

Equal pacifta potrayal ? That’s why Sanji used diable janbe to hurt it and zoro used ashura . Oh wait zoro casually destroyed it .

 

[comrade]

@comrade
I say that the term "BUILD" can involve kaido, because he built his strength by defeating and recruiting powerful pirates, so he became a YONKOU in the process.

Therefore, his way of building his strength was by fighting powerful opponents and improving. This matches perfectly with SENGOKU's words.

Yes I agree, going by your chain of events, Kaido surely peaked out after Oden.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

But can he actually hurt Kaido? That is the real question.

He already hurt Kaido

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I’m wheezing these captains are so trash zoro hasnt even taken the offensive he’s only been on the defensive and he’s already outshining them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lmaoo and people were expecting glorified scrap metal and emo doctor to do better than second most important character in the series

 

[bennbeckman]

Post the sbs where Oda called Sanji Luffys wing you liar ! @bennbeckman quote this for this bozo it seems he’s ignored me

no idea, not wasting my time looking lol