Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[Batik4ever]

Gamma Knife doesn't leave external wounds. This was literally stated by Law.

Bro, do people read the freakin' manga?

I didn't argue with that ...

 

[Indigo]

Wonder what the excuse for Zoro not being ~ Luffy will be now.

Because it's all Enma, not Zoro, apparently.

 

[Doggo]

yes it will be more impressive since not even oden could turn enma black

So? They are the same grade anyway.
At least Wado ties better with Zoro's story and ambition. Enma is just something thrown there to wank Oden.
Said it before, and I'm gonna say it again.
If Zoro can master 1 Enma, what does it say about the guy who could use 2 effortlessly at a younger age?

 

[Buusatan94]

This reminds me that I would really love to see an electricity homie à la Zzzax.

 

[MarineHQ]

Nah

Kaido didn't even want to dodge
He was gonna tank it

More like BM is just more cautious and kaido followed her advice

He didnt even loò shocked or hyped zoro but teacher felt Oden in enma.

People acting as if Kaido was gonna be KOed or heavily injured but this attack.

Yes he would've that's why he dodged it. Kaido never dodged an attack before.

 

[HA001]

Well Zoro's attack didn't hit him so we can't know how fucked up he would have gotten from it, so you are comparing apples to oranges.
Luffy will be the one standing vs Kaido at the end.

Lmfao thats the whole fucking point. Fir the firsr time in this fucking series kaido dodged an attack.
Nope zoros taking the head.

 

[Finalbeta]

Can we agree all Meitos are power ups over having a non meito blade in it's place?

Do you claim the AP of Zoro's attack in this chapter would be the same whether he used Enma or Wado? If so why is Zoro using Enma which has a downside rather than Wado which doesn't. Turning it into a black blade long term doesn't make sense, he wants to make all of his blades black blades.

Zoro's swords seem to have different pros and cons. Enma's pro is it's like a hose with a wide nozzle and can allow it's user to more easily dump more haki in one shot giving a dramatic AP increase at the expense of haki expenditure rate increasing. Shusui's was it's weight and durability giving a slight base AP increase.

Enma has got the same AP as any other o wazamono for all we can tell so far. Any supreme grade is superior AP wise, same goes for any black sword independently from its grade assuming is of at least the same grade.

 

[Fujishiro]

The fact that he's not? Luffy wrecks ZORO, this chapter confirms Zoro cant even hit a big ass dragon. How is he going to hit fs Luffy?

At the very least they are comparable in attack potency, that’s a fact. That move was probably gonna hurt Kaido more than what Luffy did up to this point.

 

[Buusatan94]

Magneto's powers are bullshit. Just like Hulk being immortal, Wolverine's Regen powers and fucking Flash

Same as most of the powers given by devil fruits, so it wouldn't be a problem.

 

[Shisui]

We don't have exact answer but Kaido said that :

Kaido : Why is Oden's presence in that katana!?

So there is Oden spirit in that sword. And Oden used it for 20/30 years. And we know that Enma sucks your haki. So Enma ate Oden haki/spirit for 30 years.

That maybe made Enma stronger than before and closer to be blackened.

Makes a lot of sense to me at least.
Tenguyama was seriously gna hand those two powerful swords to Hiyori and Momo and let them wield it.

 

[sanjikun]

And as I said here:
But even let assume that Law is wrong, he attack right next to the scar where his belly was lying, with mean he should at least hit other organs. Kaido make a point that his skin was to good to get hurt by such attack.
But again Law ain´t dumb, Oda ain´t use a line where Law state to hit Kaido heart only to hit sometthing else, the quote was said to make clear how insane Kaido skin was.

As @Buusatan94 said:
"Top Tiers bodies have an insane amount of resistance and endurance.
Whitebeard was able of fighting with the same strength and determination despite having his belly pierced with magma and having part of his head later ripped by Akainu, and Big Mom took lightning and Fishman Karate attacks that ignore normal resistance without being injured."


Top tiers bodies have insane amount of resistance and endurance, my post was more against people who claim that GK could one shot top tiers(and we have lot of these users). In the end GK didn´t even hurt Kaido much, as compare we have picture of Scabbards and Killer put more damage on Kaido.

Ofc Law probably have now far insane attacks with he use as his finisher, im just happy that the wank of GK can end now and we can move on.

So your whole point is meanless since Law must hit organs who are next to the scar.
It didn´t make any damage though.

Dude wtf are you talking about? This is an AoE issue, as Dragon Kaido is the size of a city. Gamma Knife is literally big enough to fit in Law's hand.

Gamma Knife doesn't affect stuff it doesn't hit. That nothing to do with "Top Tiers", "Low Tiers", or "Mid Tiers". Dragon Kaido is just too big to give a shit about 0.1% of his organs being destroyed.

 

[Isaac Netero]

People still think the SN will lose soon, bro Kid didn't even damage Kaido for now.
Chapter 1004 will end the Act with some big revelation probably related to the enemy ship Otama came in and about what Fukurokuju is actually doing.

 

[Batik4ever]

It is an Illusion, i'm not arguing that, i'm arguing you saying it didn't cause damage, it did. And no, Law attacked before Killer, this panel i posted is right before Killer goes into Kaido's back and starts hacking at him.

Exactly. I was wrong. I agree. Still, Doflamingo was also bleeding from Gamma Knife.

 

[Finalbeta]

He turned his blades black against Pica.
Shuusui was black already, but nevertheless, he was doing the "blackening" BS.
Does Shuusui have a locked power that Zoro can't use because he wasn't the one turn it black?
it's just a "super sayan" recolor.
Shuusui and Mihawk's sword being black never did shit aside from looking cool.

I mean forging the black sword, not simply imbuing them with haki, not sure if you being serious here.

 

[Chrono]

Did Zoro not take two attacks from Enel while Sanji was defeated after tanking a low level lightning attack?

Low lvl ?

Is that the best you can come up with. El Thor was doing shit like this....

Absoutely shits on the puny lightening attacks Zoro took. Pls dont equate Oda's fear of killing of characters with an attack being too weak.

I was quoting your shit.

El Thor is his strongest Base attack. Its his long range finisher.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Wonder what the excuse for Zoro not being ~ Luffy will be now.

Because he isnt equal to luffy

 

[rerere]

Yes. If this is not an illusion, then Kaido should have already died))) Law attacked after Killer. Why is there not one wound on Kaido's stomach?)))

Law attacked before Killer
And once we'll have the translations I'll make a thread about Kama Sonic to discuss how it works
If it caused damage or not will not be a topic tho, since it's clear that it did

 

[Power]

Goddamn. In terms of pure performance and feats, Luffy's got the other Supernova beat hands down, but that hype Zoro's attack received....Kaido has NEVER had to dodge an attack before.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Same as most of the powers given by devil fruits, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Name me one Power in One Piece anywhere as Broken as Magneto or the Flash. Who can defeat Planet Busters

 

[PrinceKun]

Pre ts sanji took thunder attack form a real lighting devil fruit user better then killer

just let that sink in

Killer is more impressive than sanji