Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[ShadyOjiro]

Tbh, I still want a 1v1 swordsman fight for Zoro. Him fighting Kaido, at least on a teamup basis, is totally fine and yes I can 100% see him killing Kaido in the end ala Ryuuma, but I still think he's warranted a fight against a meito user. Its an arc about swordsmen, and tbh seeing Zoro not fighting one is kind of weird.

Thats why I'm confused when fans of Zoro hate on the idea of Zoro fighting King still. Like we dont even know if this is the "final" battle yet. For all we know, the Yonko could get serious, and knock everyone out. Or Oda could relegate everyone to the sidelines save for Luffy/Kid/Law to fight the 2 Yonko, or just make it Luffy/Kid, or just Luffy by himself. Yes there is a possibility that this is just "the fight", but who honestly knows what happens between now and all the other battles first.

I'll just never understand why fans of Zoro wouldn't want to have their cake and eat it too. Like, if King showed up and stopped Zoro from fighting Kaido, only to be defeated and Zoro then returns to cut Kaido's head off after Luffy wins, isn't that immensely satisfying?

I mean, its nbd either. I can just see this fight going and going and going until they win. Just as a zoro fan, id love to see him fight a strong swordsman again. Its been over 10 years.

Umm like I'm ok with King being defeated by zoro but at this point I doubt it will match the current hype.

 

[Kromage911]

Can somebody explain to me how Killer managed to pierce Kaido’s skin without actually piercing it ? Like how Killer’s blades went all the way through it but Kaido is fine

Probably an illusion.

 

[Finalbeta]

zoro can do this?

mihawk would slash all that down

That's an easy job considering he slashed an entire hill by simply deflecting an attack, so more than casually.

 

[Peroroncino]

They remind him of Oden. Just like Luffy did two chapters ago. That's not "sensing Oden's presence inside of them."

its not like he literally saw oden in them or anything

 

[Ballel]

-The Gura Gura no mi inherited Oden's will

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

Btw
Did Kaido actually dodge or did Zoro just miss

Coz dragon kaido is a huge target to not miss even if he tries dodging

He dodge it
Zoro the chad ouright said "damn he dodge"
Stop being sorry loser

 

[Indigo]

Luffy inherited oden's will

Wrong, i think Yamato and Momo inherited Oden's will, they want to open the Wano Borders. Luffy doesn't really care about opening the borders, Luffy wants Kaido gone because of what he did to this country and the fact that Tama and all the people on those towns have no food anymore.

 

[Zowo]

Btw
Did Kaido actually dodge or did Zoro just miss

Coz dragon kaido is a huge target to not miss even if he tries dodging

kaido dodged ofc zoro could destroy queen s weapon from hundreds m away no problem

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

That's an easy job considering he slashed an entire hill by simply deflecting an attack, so more than casually.

he slashed 1/3 of a hill , mihawk is at the admiral level something zoro wont reach until after this arc or if he even does

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

The inherited will will be shown in the right context. Kaido sensed Oden because he personally encountered him. Kitetsu also had an aura. Just like Shusui has. But no one draws the connection since Ryuma is dead since ancient times.

what if its just the sword that Kaido sensed and because it is the same sword that Oden used, Kaido is referring it to sensing familiar sense of Oden...because he had sensed Enma's Aura from Oden and thought its was Oden's Aura, instead it is Enma he had sensed and so he is again saying he is sensing the same aura

 

[Blother Fertitta]

sorry but oden 1 vs 1 kaido and he almost win. zoro not even doing oden half. it was luffy who doing oden job as leader of party. and we are all know it will be luffy vs kaido eventually

yes! good for you

 

[h_zorothegoat]

zoro can do this?

mihawk would slash all that down

BUT Zoro solos peak fiction ​

 

[DonkeyKong]

Kaido is so stupid lmfao. He said he wants to die but then why he doesn't go and fight all the admirals, Shanks and etc. I'm sure they are capable in helping him to achieve his dream.

 

[HA001]

They remind him of Oden. Just like Luffy did two chapters ago. That's not "sensing Oden's presence inside of them."

No he thought he was seeing oden in them
he even says so

in their spirit

 

[Geo]

Because you can't explain for shit. There's literally no difference between the 2 Scenarios. It's literally just the passing will of the dead, or in this case, Oden. It's not his Haki or some shit that's haunting Enma or the Scabbards.

He'll just ignore you and the repeat the same thing again.
By his logic, Wado also has Kuina's haki and Koshiro's haki because "will/spirit = haki"
Shusui also had Ryuma's haki in it all this while

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Because Haki is the only sane and logical conclusion you can reach. Unless people want to start making the argument that once Oden died, his spirit possessed Enma. Now we just opened up a whole new can of Worms.

We know that Haki is the embodiment of a persons spirit.

We know Oden had been using Haki on Enma for decades.

Wano has been all about the significance of Ryou to a Swordsman.

Everything is lining up. Why would we assume it's anything else?

You sound like you want it to Haki because you want Zoros feat to be inferior because you'd rather not have making black blade be exceptional feat.

Is that it?

 

[Finalbeta]

he slashed 1/3 of a hill , mihawk is at the admiral level something zoro wont reach until after this arc or if he even does

I mean he slashed it in 2, that's what matters. Regardless it is just an example.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

The PTSD is going strong

Oda is highlighting how Oden is never is out of Kaido head.

So it will not surprise me that kaido is 100% sure that no one can match oden .

And if you get close to do it you must oden related or something.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Even Big Mom could sensed something was different Enma. Yall gonna start arguing she would sense Oden in the scabbards as well if she met them?

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

I think that Kaido simply doesn't know any power compared to Oden .

So that's how he refers to someone with comparable power so it's not kaido thinking oden is alive on the sword or something but him having the idea that no man can match oden power so if anyone similar appears he will use oden as rule of comparison.

thats not true as emperor and old timer he witness and face many big shots as previous chapter he mentioned 5 biggest heavy hitter in one piece history.