Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Blother Fertitta]

Y'all can't admit @Bogard has a point?

Its true, Zoro hasn't hit any Yonko yet, has just blocked/defended.
But it's also true that an Attack from Zoro would eviscerate the Yonko.
(As seen with Kaido pushing Hybrid after 1 Fodder Move from Zoro)

That's why I'm maintaining the MVP so far is betw Luffy (For most effective hits) and Zoro (For most effective blocks)
Once Oda ends this Act, and Oda makes Kaido/Big Mom/Zoro real serious, Zoro will add more points to his scorecard.

It is okay Zoro isn't putting in AP work. We've waited the entire time skip for this.
It is Zoro's job to give the killing blow. And all of that happens at the end.

To finish, I'll quote Oda in this meme:

 

[Zowo]

You can't really say that Zoro 'rescued' Luffy at that time as Luffy was anyways totally resistant to the Boro Breath.

he got fucked lol u can t afford to take multiple of this

 

[duckman]

you know you are the one that is saying an ittoyruu attack is stronger than an kyotoryu (nine swords) attack
Zoro didnt use thee swords either does it mean now sonson is stronger than three swords attacks ?
Is Shishi sonson the strongest attack becaus he used it at this situation ?
according to you then shishi sonson is his strongest attack

the only excuse here is your baseless argument just because someone uses the attack thee doesnt mean its his best arsenal you cant even back it up featwise or strengthwise

I ask you the fourth time how can Shishi sonson executed with one arm and sword be stronger than shishi sonson in three arms and three swords ?

It's simple. One sword attacks are the strongest logically. Yes, you have more blades to cut with, but you don;t have more torsos do you? The chest generates a lot of the force when swinging your arms. Of course, the three sword style us more than three swords, but you can't argue that 1 sword < 2 sword < 3 sword because of real life math, because real life math will say the opposite

 

[Indigo]

Luffy: I want to be strong enough to protect my crew!

Zoro: I want to be strong enough to protect my captain!

Sanji: I want to kick my captain in the skull repeatedly until his is KOed

Oh man

 

[Buusatan94]

I am curious if Big Mom will reveal a new power in the next chapter too to show that she's too starting to use more of her real power.

 

[Lifeismeh]

By that logic, BM has no feats against Zoro when Zoro is focused on her Kaido too

This is a battlefield c'mon, Zoro came from such a distance and still outsped Big Mom who started her attack before he even moved. Kaido tried to block mainly from Zoro's side and he saw him coming and yet he couldn't do anything to either Zoro or Killer meaning they both blitzed him...
And we all know Hiryuu Kaen didn't connect because it would've dealt massive damage...

BM was trying to hit a hakiless exhausted Luffy, I don't think she used her speed at all, she probably thought Zoro was done after her attack as well

Zoro didn't blitz Kaido, he literally stated he want to test the SNs strength, he let them hit him

we don't know that

 

[Indigo]

You can't really say that Zoro 'rescued' Luffy at that time as Luffy was anyways totally resistant to the Boro Breath. That was just Zoro attempting to attack Kaido.

If Luffy himself is happy with Zoro protecting him, just look to the next panel, we can't say shit that him protecting Luffy is pointless.

 

[KAIDO D. STRONGER]

Don Le Fishe is confused, what truth?

The truth that I love you!

 

[duckman]

link?

A small clash

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

The truth that I love you!

Ofcourse you love Don Le Fishe
:smokmoji:

 

[Oblivion]

A small clash

I mean the thing about oda and movie fights

 

[Lifeismeh]

Y'all can't admit @Bogard has a point?

Its true, Zoro hasn't hit any Yonko yet, has just blocked/defended.
But it's also true that an Attack from Zoro would eviscerate the Yonko.
(As seen with Kaido pushing Hybrid after 1 Fodder Move from Zoro)

That's why I'm maintaining the MVP so far is betw Luffy (For most effective hits) and Zoro (For most effective blocks)
Once Oda ends this Act, and Oda makes Kaido/Big Mom/Zoro real serious, Zoro will add more points to his scorecard.

It is okay Zoro isn't putting in AP work. We've waited the entire time skip for this.
It is Zoro's job to give the killing blow. And all of that happens at the end.

To finish, I'll quote Oda in this meme:

We don't know why Kaido used Hybrid form

He didn't use it after Zoro attack as well

 

[h_zorothegoat]

I am curious if Big Mom will reveal a new power in the next chapter too to show that she's too starting to use more of her real power.

she didnt wanted to waste her homies on marco. implying that marco couldve took those homies whereas 5 SN :cheers:

 

[Erkan12]

you know you are the one that is saying an ittoyruu attack is stronger than an kyotoryu (nine swords) attack
Zoro didnt use thee swords either does it mean now sonson is stronger than three swords attacks ?
Is Shishi sonson the strongest attack becaus he used it at this situation ?
according to you then shishi sonson is his strongest attack

the only excuse here is your baseless argument just because someone uses the attack thee doesnt mean its his best arsenal you cant even back it up featwise or strengthwise

I ask you the fourth time how can Shishi sonson executed with one arm and sword be stronger than shishi sonson in three arms and three swords ?

You really can't read... Common problem with Zoro extremists;
I said;
''Asura is shit, Zoro didn't use Asura against Kuma and he got owned in the end. He chose to use Shishi Sonson.''

Why its shit? Perhaps its slower. I never said its because Sonson is stronger in AP you troll. Learn to read and stop talking about irrelevant things like Sanji, Killer, Fujitora etc. when you get desperate and got debunked.

 

[Cinera]

You can't really say that Zoro 'rescued' Luffy at that time as Luffy was anyways totally resistant to the Boro Breath. That was just Zoro attempting to attack Kaido.

1. Luffy is not "totally resistant" to Boro Breath. In fact, he got pretty roughed up by the Boro Breath he tanked.
   1. Luffy Before Boro Breath:
      
   2. Luffy after Boro Breath:
      
2. Tanking Boro Breath may have depleted his haki much faster and explain why Boundman didn't even last 10 minutes.

 

[Thabeast]

BM was trying to hit a hakiless exhausted Luffy, I don't think she used her speed at all, she probably thought Zoro was done after attack as well

Bro these are just excuses, BM didn't use her speed ?I mean really? If she had good reactions, she'd have done something but Zoro was simply too fast.

Zoro didn't blitz Kaido, he literally stated he want to test the SNs strength, he let them hit him

He tested Luffy&Kid&Law and let himself get hit. With Zoro he tried to block and failed.

we don't know that

Yes we do. I mean you have Big Mom screaming at Kaido to not get hit like bro, that attack was going to fuck him up, it had to miss

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Zoro has had to save Luffy four times:

• From Mama's Heavenly Fire:
  
• From Kaido's Boro Breath:
  
• From Mama's Cognac
• From Kaido's Chomp

Despite this, Zoro:

• Earned a compliment from Kaido with his Rengoku Oni Giri:
  
• Easily deflected Kaido's Demolition Gust:
  
• Hiryuu Kaen
  • Put the fear of God in the Yonkou
    • Mama:
      
    • Kaido:
      
  • Made them stop underestimating the Supernova after witnessing that same attack:
    
  • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife a "trick":
    
  • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
    
• Tanked an upper tier technique from a serious Mama;
  • God of Lightning: Tenjin:
    
• Significantly hurt Kaido and pushed him to Hybrid form with his mid tier attack (Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki).

All of the above has been in Santoryu and while not fully accustomed to Enma:

Zoro seems to have been the MVP of the fight so far even looking only at his personal accomplishments. When you add that he has been babysitting his captain, there is not really any contest on who has put in the most work.

Said captain has made himself dead weight for the next 10 minutes, so Zoro would be on full time babysitting duty vs two Yonkou.


I can only imagine how much more damage Zoro would have dealt had Luffy not required his rescues.


Our Grandmaster has been held back from destroying the Yonkou by the need to protect his captain.



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You didn't include that Zoro was way up in the sky when he got hit by the lightning. The sccabards took alot of damaged from just dropping.

 

[Zowo]

You didn't include that Zoro was way up in the sky when he got hit by the lightning. The sccabards took alot of damaged from just dropping.

this chap looks like zoro used tatsumaki to fly and cut kaido to since he s that high

 

[Bogard]

Sorry, I saw @Bogard was downplaying Zoro and I got a little annoyed.

Speaking facts isn't downplaying

As far as we know, Luffy's attacks have done a fat lot of good to Kaido, and he:

• Had to be rescued 5 times
  • 1 time from Law alone
  • 3 times from Zoro alone
  • 1 time from Zoro with Law's assistance
• Was chastised by Zoro to not lose focus because they were facing two Yonkou

There are situations you mentioned where Luffy didn't necessarily need saving, but regardless of this, i already pointed out myself that he got saved sometimes. However, more than focusing on the fact he got saved, you must take into consideration the circumstance that led to this. The difference between Luffy and Zoro in those instances is because as mentioned already

Luffy is straight up fighting and landing his attacks in a 1vs1, sometimes even 1vs2. He needs helping from Zoro due to being pressured

The circumstances of Luffy needing saving is because he is straight up fighting the yonkos in a 1 on 1, sometimes even 2 on 1, and thus obviously would need help in this cases due to being pressured

Spoiler

Unlike Zoro as mentioned here: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...oilers-discussion.10596/page-409#post-1060613

Rendered himself dead weight for 10 minutes

Which is Luffy's own fault, i agree but irrelevant to what i was saying

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Zoro has had to save Luffy four times:

• From Mama's Heavenly Fire:
  
• From Kaido's Boro Breath:
  
• From Mama's Cognac
• From Kaido's Chomp

Despite this, Zoro:

• Earned a compliment from Kaido with his Rengoku Oni Giri:
  
• Easily deflected Kaido's Demolition Gust:
  
• Hiryuu Kaen
  • Put the fear of God in the Yonkou
    • Mama:
      
    • Kaido:
      
  • Made them stop underestimating the Supernova after witnessing that same attack:
    
  • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife a "trick":
    
  • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
    
• Tanked an upper tier technique from a serious Mama;
  • God of Lightning: Tenjin:
    
• Significantly hurt Kaido and pushed him to Hybrid form with his mid tier attack (Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki).

All of the above has been in Santoryu and while not fully accustomed to Enma:

Zoro seems to have been the MVP of the fight so far even looking only at his personal accomplishments. When you add that he has been babysitting his captain, there is not really any contest on who has put in the most work.

Said captain has made himself dead weight for the next 10 minutes, so Zoro would be on full time babysitting duty vs two Yonkou.


I can only imagine how much more damage Zoro would have dealt had Luffy not required his rescues.


Our Grandmaster has been held back from destroying the Yonkou by the need to protect his captain.



@Queen, @ShishioIsBack, @LuthonTheDragDown, @Punpun, @Ice devil slayer, @Rivaille, @nik87, @Marimo_420, @Don DaSlayer, @Blother, @Zowo, @Patryipe, @kom5, @PizzaBread, @Yoru, @ErionRoronoa, @Sword God Ryuma, @Le Fishe D. Crydo.

cinera u forgot one feat bro :

1- Big mom attack couldn't knock down Killer for good but nerfed Onigiri with hardening could ,
i said nerfed onigiri : because Zoro used a scythe for the first time in his attack whilst a scythe isn't even a sword and what he uses in his techniques are legendary swords with grade .