How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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That's true, and if I'm wrong, I'll take my L. It's not like I've never been wrong on my predictions before.

I can see Zoro being temporarily knocked out with the other Supernova, but I don't expect him to stay down while Luffy is invulnerable for 10 minutes.
They'll be all out long enough... Probably enough for Luffy's haki to recover. Kaido will try to drop Onigashima on the capital, and Momo will stop it/redirect it. Kaido is puzzled by it and goes looking around In Onigashima to see what's going on, Meme follows him, Marco goes on the roof to revive the Novas.
 
You know that even Boundman couldn´t damage much Kaido in his base form, he tank a Kong gun without even get pushed back.
His Hybrid form is larger and probably stronger, have better durability, I doubt Snakeman gonna put much damage while even with Boundman he couldn´t damage much Base Kaido.
He was almost knocked off his feat and keeled over from a Kong gun...
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
Kaido just has insane durability/endurance and recovery speed. He is taking damage since the scabbard battle, but is still back like it's no worse to wear. He looked the most damaged after kong gatling though.

I'd say the SN damage ratio comparatively to each other look this way

Luffy - 92 %
Zoro - 3%
Killer - 3%
Law - 2%

Luffy did the most damage thus far due to being the one the most on the offense with his level3 hardened G4 punches, with Kong Gatling hurting Kaido the most(with Kaido temporarily down, and Big Mom worried)

Zoro did enough damage for Kaido to spout Luffy out, but Killer momentarily having Kaido down due to internal sonic attack, and Law giving slightly less damage with his gamma knife

Kid did the least thus far. Hope that changes though :josad:
You are greatly underrating the damage Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki did:




  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
    • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido down
  • Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
    • She did not comment that Killer's, Law's, Kidd's or Luffy's other attacks (Kong Gun, Kong Rifle, Rhino Schneider) damaged Kaido.
    • Based on Mama's reaction, it should be much more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Gatling).
    • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
  • Kaido acknowledged that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki hurt him
    • The only other attack Kaido acknowledged hurt him was Red Roc.
      • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife a "trick":
      • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is the only successful attack to receive special recognition/treatment from the Yonkou
    • The other was Luffy's Red Roc.
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    Kong Gatling might have dealt more damage than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki, but there's nowhere it's on another level from it:
    • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up much more blood than Kong Gatling
      • It also cut Kaido up and drew blood from him directly
    • It overwhelmed and completely destroyed Kaido's named tornado attack
    • It received special recognition from Mama and Kaido, while Kong Gatling did not.
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
Kaido said that all those attacks were "tricks" and "vexing". He called them annoying.


He directly acknowledged Zoro's attack worked and Mama did too.


Nah. That was just Zoro fans being overenthusiastic in how we interpreted that scene. The spoiler provider has never been high fidelity in his art (look at previous chapters), you're just excessively scrutinising this one because of how people interpreted it. It's not the spoiler provider's fault, that Zoro fans were eager to wank him.



That's true, and if I'm wrong, I'll take my L. It's not like I've never been wrong on my predictions before.

I can see Zoro being temporarily knocked out with the other Supernova, but I don't expect him to stay down while Luffy is invulnerable for 10 minutes.



How does Katakuri prevent it? It's not like it has a long setup time or anything. The attack is near instant and has massive AOE.



Yep it's something special about Enma. I'm not sure it's Oden's haki yet (Kaido questioned if the scabbards used Oden's Ryuo and said he saw the visage of Oden in them), but this is an Enma unique property.

Those who claimed Enma was not a powerup seem to be very wrong.



Luffy doesn't need to be stronger than Kaido in Wano to eventually become Pirate King. It's not actually a requirement.
Kata looks far enough into the future that he knows Zoro is going to use an attack before Zoro even thinks about using it.
It's a matter a disrupting your opponent's rhythm.
In a fight, if you can fight at your rhythm, you can't fight properly. Kata's ability is one that you either counter it with a FS of your own, or you simply can't go all out.
Even if Zoro tries to simply "counter" Kata's hits as they come, Kata will know about it.
Thing is, FS is a hack ability. And it's not like Kata's CoA is fodder level. If Killer's attack can pierce through Zoro, there's no reason to assume Katakuri's Mogura can't do it too.
 

Sir Tuna Sandwich II

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
yes ... they call us ... logical people

I know that word makes you shit yourself with feat :suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure:


what is sadder? be a loser or unfunny loser? I'm sure you should know the answer you hater :optimistic:
LMAO
Now funny, it's always fun to see Lonkotards lyingto themself
> Logical
This why you ignore how Crydo of the Fish and Big Meme were afraid of Luffy last chapter and now that Luffy is drained they claim it *start* to be fun? After they repetly try to hot draind Luffy remind you.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I don't really understand what you're saying? I didn't revise upwards my estimate of Cracker/Kata, I revised downwards my estimate of Boundman.
It seemed from your original comment was downplaying commanders via bound man lol. I’m too lazy to go quote, but I thought what you were saying was “commanders can’t injure Kaido because bound man can’t injure Kaido.” If this wasn’t what you were saying, then ignore the following lol.

Well, first of all, you don’t need Advanced Haki to injure Kaido. Luffy does, but this is because the combination of his own coa and rubber punches was not enough to do the trick. Kidd and Law are injuring Kaido here, and we can reasonably assume neither have Advanced Haki. Hell Killer of all people injured Kaido.

Second, both commanders Bound Man faced either were able to completely stall him out or completely dominated him, so pre-Ryou Bound Man itself is not proved to be above commanders and thus is not proof that commanders can’t injure Kaido. Only that Oda will hand-hold Luffy to top tier power without doing so for any other character lol.

I never thought what was on top of the skull was massive mountains?
Then how do you justify the gap between Zoro and Onigashima’s horn being 6 kilometers when those tiny rocks that are visible from the top of the skull not even being close to 1KM? You could probably fit like 10 of those rocks max between Zoro and the horn lol.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Exactly..the reason why Kaido doesn't sense anything from Enma with Onigiri is because it wasn't coated. Oden's haki is not in Enma , it is Oden's will/spirit which resides in Enma.
But Zoro didnt coat Enma with Oden's spirit, he coated it with haki...
Why was Kaido mentioning Oden whenever Scabbards hurt him?
Luffy' situation is another problem. Lets focus Kaido's death by Zoro's hand and be happy now.
You have my permission to start the celebration of Zoro killing Kaido. Nobody will body you for facts. :finally:
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Why does enma Haki have different color
Because it is pink? :yasu:
 
LMAO
Now funny, it's always fun to see Lonkotards lyingto themself
> Logical
This why you ignore how Crydo of the Fish and Big Meme were afraid of Luffy last chapter and now that Luffy is drained they claim it *start* to be fun? After they repetly try to hot draind Luffy remind you.
lol ... well at least if you are not funny we can laugh at you ... so ... well ... it's kinda look

I mean ... look at yourself :)

 
You're wrong:



  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
    • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido to the ground.
  • Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
    • She did not comment that Killer, Law or Kidd's attack damaged Kaido.
    • It should be more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Rifle).
    • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
  • Kaido acknowledged that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki hurt him
    • The only other attack Kaido acknowledged hurt him was Red Roc.
      • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife a "trick":
      • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is the only successful attack to receive special recognition/treatment from the Yonkou
    • The other was Luffy's Red Roc.

Kong Gatling might have dealt more damage than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki, but there's nowhere it's on another level from it:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up much more blood than Kong Gatling
    • It also cut Kaido up and drew blood from him directly
  • It overwhelmed and completely destroyed Kaido's named tornado attack

@WesMidnight, @Doggo, @Luffy is the mc
I don't have much energy for a long detailed reply countering the arguments i don't agree with but Like i said,your interpretation differs from mine and you are free to disagree bro,just stop trying to convince me of what you think is right or wrong.

Believe in what you want, it's fine and I can also think by myself so I'll ask you stop quoting me on this.
 
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