Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Charlotte Horchata]

They can be synonymous in certain situations. Like when a car is about to run over you and someone yells "look out!".

Not only this isn't how synonyms work but it's clearly biased by the headcanon of the reader. "Look out" and "dodge" don't mean the same, period. Trying to lecture someone on them being synonymous when they aren't at all is absurd.

 

[Cross_Marian]

Basically we acknowledged that that thing is haki, and since haki cannot be stored in swords, at least so it strongly seems, that is meant to be Zoro's CoA specifically.

Now since this thing about spirits and souls got dismissed and debunked, not much remains. I would say that for now the true will can be inherited is the D. but of course I'm not Oda so who knows.

But didn’t kawamatsu said that the will of a samurai lives in his sword even after he dies or it’s just simple and Kaido has the same feeling and fear when he sees Zoro with Enma

 

[Seth]

It's amazing how people who clearly don't read the manga are always upset.

Ace is dead. Idc.

 

[Rekien]

Damn what an impressive cut, you have to zoom in with a magnifying glass to see it

He's just not nearly as good as Katakuri, that's all there is to it, he can't use MAX level Observation like him all the time

Not realy, considering i didnt amplify much the original image at all and the pannel is not complete, hidding most of kaido's body.

Try harder, sheep.

 

[Aknolagon]

Kid : What is this ?
Kaido : Tatsumaki!!
Killer and Kidd : Wouahh!

Luffy : Thanks Zoro!
Zoro : That's actually not a simple tornado!

Zoro : oh shit!
Zoro : Luffy!!

Kaido : Gyaaa!! (Kaido wanted to try a new type of chewing gum)

Zoro : Wait! Wait ! Don't eat ...
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!

Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!


Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!

Killer : (sorry the picture is cut but probably thinking what he gonna eat at KFC tonight)

Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido

Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"


We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.

So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same form of haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's why when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.

 

[Chrono]

• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes:
  
  
  
  
  
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  
  
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
  • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
    • There are three separate panels to highlight this:
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido down:
  
  

Lmao what ? When did it destroy 3 tornados. He only attack Kaido.

 

[Cinera]

I keep seeing that zoro did damage, but I look at kaidou's body and no damage.

Because I'm kind like that, I'll help you out.

• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes:
  
  
  
  
  
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  
  
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
  • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
    • There are three separate panels to highlight this:
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido down:
  
  

 

[Seth]

Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"

 

[Enma]

Not only this isn't how synonyms work but it's clearly biased by the headcanon of the reader. "Look out" and "dodge" don't mean the same, period. Trying to lecture someone on them being synonymous when they aren't at all is absurd.

Whatever, i'm not English professor to lecture you. Stephen and @T.D.A already said everything before me.

 

[Finalbeta]

But didn’t kawamatsu said that the will of a samurai lives in his sword even after he dies

Well swords are living objects too and the will of a samurai can constitute his dreams so meant figuratively and the sword can keep them since they are living objects, but not necessarily as an actual power stored that increases AP, this is my personal idea.

 

[Den_Den_Mushi]

I think that Kaido’s obsession with Oden blinds him to reality. Everything to him has become about Oden, from the Scabbards apparently using Oden’s Ryuou, to Zoro using his katana. Katanas don’t literally absorb the previous user’s haki, otherwise Shusui would have made Zoro nigh-invincible pre timeskip. What we do know about katanas however is that they represent inherited will and that’s most likely what’s going on here. Kaido doesn’t acknowledge the Scabbards individually, nor does he really acknowledge Luffy or Zoro as individuals. He only sees them through the lens of strong people he’s fought before and is trying to relive the thrills he felt while fighting them.

The true climax of this fight should be when Kaido finally realises what separates Luffy and Zoro from Oden and the legends of previous generations. Luffy is not Roger, not Whitebeard, not even Shanks. It won’t be until Luffy and Zoro push themselves to the next level before Kaido realises this on his own.

 

[Enma]

Kid : What is this ?
Kaido : Tatsumaki!!
Killer and Kidd : Wouahh!

Luffy : Thanks Zoro!
Zoro : That's actually not a simple tornado!

Zoro : oh shit!
Zoro : Luffy!!

Kaido : Gyaaa!! (Kaido wanted to try a new type of chewing gum)

Zoro : Wait! Wait ! Don't eat ...
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!

Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!


Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!

Killer : (sorry the picture is cut but probably thinking what he gonna eat at KFC tonight)

Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido

Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"


We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.

So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.

Saviour

 

[Aknolagon]

the attacks! because kaido and zoro are spamming tatsumaki lol!

 

[T.D.A]

Whatever, i'm not English professor to lecture you. Stephen and @T.D.A already said everything before me.

I've made a thread about this: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...t-kaido-to-non-native-english-speakers.10816/

 

[Seth]

I think that Kaido’s obsession with Oden blinds him to reality. Everything to him has become about Oden, from the Scabbards apparently using Oden’s Ryuou, to Zoro using his katana. Katanas don’t literally absorb the previous user’s haki, otherwise Shusui would have made Zoro nigh-invincible pre timeskip. What we do know about katanas however is that they represent inherited will and that’s most likely what’s going on here. Kaido doesn’t acknowledge the Scabbards individually, nor does he really acknowledge Luffy or Zoro as individuals. He only sees them through the lens of strong people he’s fought before and is trying to relive the thrills he felt while fighting them.

The true climax of this fight should be when Kaido finally realises what separates Luffy and Zoro from Oden and the legends of previous generations. Luffy is not Roger, not Whitebeard, not even Shanks. It won’t be until Luffy and Zoro push themselves to the next level before Kaido realises this on his own.

Kaido is basically Oda's way to show how blinded Zoro haters are.

Kaido talking only about Oden and his presence is no different to people saying that Zoro is using a katana with Oden's haki

 

[enelminemreborn]

I think that Kaido’s obsession with Oden blinds him to reality. Everything to him has become about Oden, from the Scabbards apparently using Oden’s Ryuou, to Zoro using his katana. Katanas don’t literally absorb the previous user’s haki, otherwise Shusui would have made Zoro nigh-invincible pre timeskip. What we do know about katanas however is that they represent inherited will and that’s most likely what’s going on here. Kaido doesn’t acknowledge the Scabbards individually, nor does he really acknowledge Luffy or Zoro as individuals. He only sees them through the lens of strong people he’s fought before and is trying to relive the thrills he felt while fighting them.

The true climax of this fight should be when Kaido finally realises what separates Luffy and Zoro from Oden and the legends of previous generations. Luffy is not Roger, not Whitebeard, not even Shanks. It won’t be until Luffy and Zoro push themselves to the next level before Kaido realises this on his own.

oden haki odens sword odens cock lmao i told people that oden scarred kaido straight up nutted all over this man

 

[Seth]

the attacks! because kaido and zoro are spamming tatsumaki lol!

Zoro ikoku soon?

 

[Chrono]

Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Zoro fans attacked me last chapter when I said Enma is Oden's sword.

"Buh...BUh...Its Zoro's now".

Confirmed by Kaido that Enma will always be Oden's Sword lol.

 

[nik87]

Is Zoro being downplayed again?

Ah, you know how it goes Bil... The usual spam of:

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Kid : What is this ?
Kaido : Tatsumaki!!
Killer and Kidd : Wouahh!

Luffy : Thanks Zoro!
Zoro : That's actually not a simple tornado!

Zoro : oh shit!
Zoro : Luffy!!

Kaido : Gyaaa!! (Kaido wanted to try a new type of chewing gum)

Zoro : Wait! Wait ! Don't eat ...
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!

Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!


Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!

Killer : (sorry the picture is cut but probably thinking what he gonna eat at KFC tonight)

Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido

Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"


We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.

So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's why when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.

Buh buh Zoro is vet lvl withou Enma he is carried by Enma