Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Danh]

Didn't Zoros attack also knock Kaido down?
@Cinera

From the image of raw version. I didn't see Kaido went down to the ground like what Luffy did to him.

 

[Buusatan94]

Zoro took Hiyori, plus Tashigi's heart also belongs to him.

He never took Hiyori though Tashigi's heart does indeed belong to him.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

The agenda is nuts in this thread. How is Zoro carrying a Haki depleted Luffy any different from when Sanji had to do the same in WCI?? You lot shit on Sanji only for Zoro to get praised for doing the same for his captain. Make it make sense.

Sanji also beat the daylights out of Luffy that arc. And he was up against Fodder mostly.
Not to mention, Luffy wouldn't be in that situation if it weren't for Sanji.

Whereas, Zoro and Luffy have no strings attached on the roof.
Zoro and Luffy got up on their own thru diff routes.
Zoro keeps saving Luffy and Luffy has become undoubtedly a liability.
And theyre fighting two emperors

 

[Akai]

He literally says the scabbards are using odens ryou . Does oden live in the scabbards? Oda said through rayleigh haki is a power “ all living beings posses” oden is dead . You’re so desperate to try and downplay zoro you’re literally making a fool of yourself you moron

You know there is a huge difference between:
„ Hm? The identity of that haki is!!“

And

„Are they using Odens Ryou too?“

Kaido speaks of IDENTITY! The identity of this Haki is Oden! Nuff said.

so why didn’t he mentioned it when Luffy uses his Ryou punch?

Why is Zoro asking if that’s the new Haki that Luffy learned?

 

[Raughtale]

Luffy runs out of haki in less than an hour and some crazy Zoro haters out there think Oden's haki is hurting Kaido 20 years later.

 

[rerere]

Why would you want to read the one translation where he is probably wanking Zoro though?

Even if he's saying something like "Wow, he cutted his scales" who cares? Killer already has his form of internal destruction

 

[mckengrie]

because its 2 yonkou, and it reminds him of rocks ?
did you read so I guess
ssg>kaidou

You say Admiral>Yonkoy but Fujitora is afraid with this situation. Why Admirals know win Yonkou but Afraid?

Cuz Yonkou>Admiral.

 

[Guymieux]

You know there is a huge difference between:
„ Hm? The identity of that haki is!!“

And

„Are they using Odens Ryou too?“

Kaido speaks of IDENTITY! The identity of this Haki is Oden! Nuff said.

so why didn’t he mentioned it when Luffy uses his Ryou punch?

Why is Zoro asking if that’s the new Haki that Luffy learned?

Oden is dead . He does not have haki dude . You are seriously desperate as fuck . If odens haki is still in the sword why didn’t kinemon recognize it when zoro used it ? Or kawamatsu ? Or tengu? Find a new way to downplay zoro because this just makes you look dumb

 

[Finalbeta]

He never took Hiyori though Tashigi's heart does indeed belong to him.

I mean Hiyori also has feelings for him. Not that they are engaged of course.

I meant it figuratively for "took her heart"

 

[comrade]

I said Ryuma, learn to read

> Ryuma only did it through his history of battle

Depends on how you interpret this statement. Is a long history of battles required to forge your sword into a black blade, or did the blade become black over the course of his many battles, as obviously, Ryuma's swordsmanship and Haki continuously improved. It's similar to Goku becoming a Super Saiyajin over the course of his many battles and as he got stronger. But then Gotenks and Trunks reached that level much earlier in their childhood. Zoro will not only forge Enma into a black blade, but also his other blades including Kitetsu, which he has since 2 years. With him being able to effectively use Haki post TS only. While Oden in his lifetime hasn't managed it, even though he could use Haki at least for a decade after his introduction.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

You say Admiral>Yonkoy but Fujitora is afraid with this situation. Why Admirals know win Yonkou but Afraid?

nice try papazuki just calls its another disater LOL
Fujitora said its the return of the rocks thats all
yonkos dont ally thats the suprise thing about it

 

[Cinera]

Okay a general question for you guys.

While Zoros Ittoryu Slash had unrealistic hype to the point where Oda can't even afford to have that slash touch Kaido this early on, and produced by far the biggest DC feat in Wano.

Zoro's Tatsumaki is at least exceptional among other roof top attacks bar Red Roc because first it temporarily knocked Kaido down and secondly it is the only move besides Red Roc to get any kinda real reaction from Kaido and Big Mom. Kaido turned hybrid after that attack

I think Hiryu Kisen >>> Red Roc ~ Tatsumaki ~ Kong Gatling Gun >>>> All other attacks

@Cinera

IMO

Hiryuu Kaen: 150
Kong Gatling Gun: 60
Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki: 30
Red Roc: 12

I think you're underrating Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki:

Spoiler

• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes:
  
  
  
  
  
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  
  
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
  • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
    • There are three separate panels to highlight this:
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido down:
  
  
• Killer expresses surprise that Zoro cut Kaido.
• Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
  • She did not comment that Killer's, Law's, Kidd's or Luffy's other attacks (Kong Gun, Kong Rifle, Rhino Schneider) damaged Kaido.
  • Based on Mama's reaction, it should be much more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Gatling).
  • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
• Kaido acknowledged that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki hurt him
  • The only other attack Kaido acknowledged hurt him was Red Roc.
    • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife, Kidd's Slam Gibson, and Luffy's Kong Rifle "tricks":
      
      
    • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
      
      
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is the only successful attack to receive special recognition/treatment from the Yonkou
  • The other was Luffy's Red Roc.

Kong Gatling probably dealt more damage than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki, but the difference may be overstated:

• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up much more blood than Kong Gatling
  • It also cut Kaido up and drew blood from him directly
• It overwhelmed and completely destroyed Kaido's named tornado attack

Didn't Zoros attack also knock Kaido down?
@Cinera

He wasn't fully knocked to the ground, he recovered while he was falling down:

 

[Gon’s Missing Arm]

Zoro haters are really down bad, down EGREGIOUS I've never seen them this reachy lmao! @Chrono can't you be happy for us

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy runs out of haki in less than an hour and some crazy Zoro haters out there think Oden's haki is hurting Kaido 20 years later.

its all fairness whether its his haki or not
it doesnt matter cause enma will be his blade and his feats with enma will be his not oden's
its more so a cope for how strong he looks out of the blue.


"oh zoro became this strong but only cause of this so I can sleep happy" kind of deal.
i understand the confusion too
you dont have to be a zoro hater to think so.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Oden is dead . He does not have haki dude . You are seriously desperate as fuck . If odens haki is still in the sword why didn’t kinemon recognize it when zoro used it ? Or kawamatsu ? Or tengu? Find a new way to downplay zoro because this just makes you look dumb

bro its oden haki , but zoro haki amped it up to hurt zoro , because oden haki alone couldnt do it only zoros

 

[Akai]

Oden is dead . He does not have haki dude . You are seriously desperate as fuck . If odens haki is still in the sword why didn’t kinemon recognize it when zoro used it ? Or kawamatsu ? Or tengu? Find a new way to downplay zoro because this just makes you look dumb

Because not everybody has the power to tell which Haki belongs to who?? ODEN GAVE KAIDO PTSD. Of course Kaido recognized Odens Haki.

Why did Kaido not comment on Luffys Ryou?

Why did Zoro ask if that’s the new Haki that Luffy learned??

Why you think it’s impossible to store Haki for a sword that consumes the Owners Haki???

Question over question and you can’t answer a single one

 

[Bajak Laut Tidur]

Hes one of us and he might be the biggest Zorotard between us

And now let's guess what's username he used in this forum. I place my bet on @Reddot4

 

[Batik4ever]

If the damage from Zoro's attack remains, and does not disappear as from 9 Scabbards attacks, then Haki Zoro ~ Haki Oden? Hmm. I don't mean Ryuo, but the level of ordinary Haki itself.

 

[Guymieux]

Because not everybody has the power to tell which Haki belongs to who?? ODEN GAVE KAIDO PTSD. Of course Kaido recognized Odens Haki.

Why did Kaido not comment on Luffys Ryou?

Why did Zoro ask if that’s the new Haki that Luffy learned??

Why you think it’s impossible to store Haki for a sword that consumes the Owners Haki???

Question over question and you can’t answer a single one

Enma does not consume the users haki stop making shit up. It forces the users haki out and cuts more then intended. It does not store anything . Oden is dead . It’s using zoros haki . Why is this simple concept so difficult for you to understand

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Stop bullying Judge's son, look he is crying!