Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

[Celestial D. Dragon]

If it was Queen in front of Sanji instead of King, Queen would have got blitzed by Raid Suit Sanji. Its not a slight difference, King is on his own level and Queen is a level below King.

Doubt it, as Oda likes to make them big boys move fast. Look how massive Chinjao is, and he is 78 years old and was keeping up with Luffy.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

gently remainder that ulti appear in the chapter is about to lol diffed nami and ussop...

No need for that she already no diffed them they are running away at some point they will lose within the next few chapters

 

[Red Dog]

Sounds too good to be true given the Straw Hats' plot armor.

Well at least give good fight before her downfall...

 

[wereng99]

If it was Queen in front of Sanji instead of King, Queen would have got blitzed by Raid Suit Sanji. Its not a slight difference, King is on his own level and Queen is a level below King.

then are you implying that zoro is much stronger than sanji? of course if zoro fight king tho it's not likely

 

[Buusatan94]

Well at least give good fight before her downfall...

I won't be satisfied until I see Ulti facing a real opponent.

 

[zzShinichi]

This might be the most dead spoiler discussion thread since the raid started

 

[Hanzo hattori]

I won't be satisfied until I see Ulti facing a real opponent.

It will happen in act 4 Nami and Usopp aint shit maybe someone from Kid's crew like Heat or Wire

 

[Buusatan94]

This might be the most dead spoiler discussion thread since the raid started

After the last two chapters that saw the Yonkos face the Supernovas it isn't so surprising. Outside of this battle at the top the raid hasn't been very exciting so far.

 

[pg13]

then are you implying that zoro is much stronger than sanji? of course if zoro fight king tho it's not likely

Well.... Zoro's stronger in the sense that there's people Zoro can defeat relatively quickly like low-mid diff that Sanji either can't beat or would require extreme difficulty. So basically the difference between the two is about Mid Diff.

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now replace Queen with King when Big Mom rampage at Udon.

Big Mom in that state probably wouldn't even Touch King in his Zoan form. Honestly King probably wouldn't even try fighting Big Mom like Queen. He would've found another way to subdue her.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If it was Queen in front of Sanji instead of King, Queen would have got blitzed by Raid Suit Sanji. Its not a slight difference, King is on his own level and Queen is a level below King.

Where are you getting that Queen is slow? Like that he has slow combat speed

 

[pg13]

Doubt it, as Oda likes to make them big boys move fast. Look how massive Chinjao is, and he is 78 years old and was keeping up with Luffy.

Idk I mean Queen didn't even see Sanji, King did...... Queen being fast remains to be seen honestly. From what we've seen so far his reaction speed is as good as Page Ones lol.

 

[Stalker]

My question is
The f is King doing that he cant go and kill Scarabs

Kaido is having fun at the top so someone has to coordinate the Beast Pirates.

After Black Maria fails to kill the Scabbards King will get his entry.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Idk I mean Queen didn't even see Sanji, King did...... Queen being fast remains to be seen honestly. From what we've seen so far his reaction speed is as good as Page Ones lol.

Have you seen Queen get blitzed by someone?

and you know Queen HAS to meet Sanji. The rules of storytelling DEMAND they meet

whereas nothing actually ties king to Sanji as per the story

 

[pg13]

Where are you getting that Queen is slow? Like that he has slow combat speed

Judging from how Queen fights in that Zoan form of his, I doubt he'd keep up with Sanji speedwise, combined with the invisibility ,He'd just be a very durable punching bag for Sanji. Page One 2.0

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Judging from how Queen fights in that Zoan form of his, I doubt he'd keep up with Sanji speedwise, combined with the invisibility ,He'd just be a very durable punching bag for Sanji. Page One 2.0

if he does end up fighting queen
I hope you continue to downplay queen
just the exact same way you are doing rn.

 

[Cross_Marian]

If it is a 1 vs 1 it would be a very good fest. Give King to Zoro and let sanji handle queen. Luffy will solo Kaido at the end. Bring back the Good old times !

Luffy and Zoro are fighting Kaido, this construction is now in the past . Don’t forget Jinbe, he and Sanji will be in the same league, Zoro is now in a another league.

 

[Bullet]

Serious question for all Sanji fans , would you be pissed if Sanji fights Queen instead of King? What would be your thoughts ?

As long as it's a good fight i don't care which calamity he fights
King would be better because he is more serious but if Oda makes the fight with Queen intense and hype instead of random gag moments and both lusting after women and stuff i would be happy with Queen as well

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Judging from how Queen fights in that Zoan form of his, I doubt he'd keep up with Sanji speedwise, combined with the invisibility ,He'd just be a very durable punching bag for Sanji. Page One 2.0

So it’s an assumption? That a fat character is slow? In anime a fat character is slow?

Anyway I’m asking about combat speed. Combat speed includes reaction and attack speeds and all that. For example, Queen has gun in his mouth so the bullet speed and his firing speed are counted as Combat speed. And last time I checked Sanji gets tagged by bullets. So already, just his gun mouth itself can tag Sanji. Stuff like that.

There’s no proof of Queen being slow in combat. You can say Sanji can run faster than him but that’s just movement speed. For example Zoro can cut Sanji down no matter how fast he can run because of Zoro’s attack and reaction speeds

Also hybrid form exists remember so even if Queen’s full Zoan is in some regard, hybrid form exists

 

[Bullet]

So it’s an assumption? That a fat character is slow? In anime a fat character is slow?

Anyway I’m asking about combat speed. Combat speed includes reaction and attack speeds and all that. For example, Queen has gun in his mouth so the bullet speed and his firing speed are counted as Combat speed. And last time I checked Sanji gets tagged by bullets. So already, just his gun mouth itself can tag Sanji. Stuff like that.

There’s no proof of Queen being slow in combat. You can say Sanji can run faster than him but that’s just movement speed. For example Zoro can cut Sanji down no matter how fast he can run because of Zoro’s attack and reaction speeds

Also hybrid form exists remember so even if Queen’s full Zoan is in some regard, hybrid form exists

Queen will probably be the fastest calamity because Oda might think a fat character being really fast is funny

 

[Zolo]

Where's Marco? On his way to the roof?

marco is dead allready. queen finished him offpanel