General & Others Skip Oden Flashback. Get to the War

[Reborn]

The main component of wano arc so far isn't yonkou or shs alliance or samurais but oden.

He got consistent hype and has been linked with all sub plots of wano. It's to be noted that oden is also important in grand scheme of things like raftel,pg, ancient civilization and final war.

So his flashbacks is much more important than anything as of now. Not only for giving us crucial info and give us some emotional connection to wano war but also to understand bigger plots of one piece.

Skipping it for the sake of war is totally unjustified claim from narrative and readers point of view

 

[Shura]

The main component of wano arc so far isn't yonkou or shs alliance or samurais but oden.

He got consistent hype and has been linked with all sub plots of wano. It's to be noted that oden is also important in grand scheme of things like raftel,pg, ancient civilization and final war.

So his flashbacks is much more important than anything as of now. Not only for giving us crucial info and give us some emotional connection to wano war but also to understand bigger plots of one piece.

Skipping it for the sake of war is totally unjustified claim from narrative and readers point of view

well said, just hope for Oda won't drag more than necessary and rush things when unnecessary...

and welcome back...

 

[Brix]

lol, so besides FB's nothing is considered ''Story telling''? They enjoy the most part of op which everything is story telling. But because they don't want to see a FB right now, when the main Story just got interesting, they are ''retards''? And guess what, everything that happended right now was for the FIGHT that is gonna happen, like in every other Arc. So don't act like fights are not part of OP and it's Story, when every Arc ended with a fight. People are waiting since the TS that the other SH's get some fights, which was around 9 years ago?! How is that a bad thing? But here you are, calling them ''retards''.
And i don't get your comment. I didn't read a single comment in this thread, where they said all they want are fights. They just care more about the main Story going on right now, than Oden's FB.

Imagine, Luffy and co arrived at Cocoyashi village and immediately went and beat Arlong without even seeing Nami's flashback.

Do you think that would be satisfying? Nope. Flashbacks are needed for emotional weight when the bad guy is about to be defeated.

This shit happens every arc. It is how Oda writes his story. You've reached 900+ chapters and you're still clueless?

Oden is like Luffy. And the scabbards are like the Strawhat Pirates. It's the parallels

Now imagine this, If the One Piece story starts with Luffy dead. HE IS DEAD. But all amazing adventures with the crew happened.

And the rest of the strawhats want to avenge and fight for their captain's dream.

But Oda doesn't show how Luffy met his crew and started to follow him? Because NO FLASHBACKS.

One Piece would be shit. It's similar to skipping Oden's flasback.

 

[Reborn]

well said, just hope for Oda won't drag more than necessary and rush things when unnecessary...

and welcome back...

Drag is subjective. For some even two-three chapters of flashback would be drag and for some it could be 5-7 chapters.

The better way to see this would be whether Oda is doing justice to the flashback in reference to the wano plot and not number of chapters dedicated to flashback.

But, some pace should be maintained.

And,thanks for the welcome.

 

[Hiragaro]

Imagine, Luffy and co arrived at Cocoyashi village and immediately went and beat Arlong without even seeing Nami's flashback.

Do you think that would be satisfying? Nope. Flashbacks are needed for emotional weight when the bad guy is about to be defeated.

This shit happens every arc. It is how Oda writes his story. You've reached 900+ chapters and you're still clueless?

Oden is like Luffy. And the scabbards are like the Strawhat Pirates. It's the parallels

Now imagine this, If the One Piece story starts with Luffy dead. HE IS DEAD. But all amazing adventures with the crew happened.

And the rest of the strawhats want to avenge and fight for their captain's dream.

But Oda doesn't show how Luffy met his crew and started to follow him? Because NO FLASHBACKS.

One Piece would be shit. It's similar to skipping Oden's flasback.

Yes, think more and stop this retardeness.

Call me a retard one more fucking time!

Learn to read first. WHERE DID I SAID FB ARE BAD????? WHERE??????
Read properly, i said NOW People don't want to have the FB, because the Story finally got interesting. This FB can be shown ealier or later. Funny how you act like we have no clue of what Kaidou and Orochi did to Wano and Oden lol. We know that Oden was on WB's and Roger's ship, we know Oden was boiled, we see how Wano Looks now after Kaidou and Orochi got the power about this Country, we saw what they did to the People, we know Oden gave Kaidou his scar etc. etc. just some examples. This FB will just be more detailed. To say where is no emotions and no Story without the FB is stupid.

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I would second your thought if the fb ends just as you thought it would be..."Oden's fb"....if it covers scabbards formation/ascension of Orochi and Kaido invasion/sea stones and ancient history of wano/Oden's meeting with Roger and WB/Toki story etc., then you are wrong on many levels as it connects the dots in "main story line in wano" and gives more reason/cause why the "fights/war" is happening in current timeline....

To answer that, i will just Quote myself.

I would skip it, because:
The Wano Arc stretched to much with unnecessary stuff. Those 50+ (not sure how much exactly) chapter could gave us much more stuff than they actually did. And after we finally got close to the climax we get a FB...and this doesn't mean the FB will skip everything what is currently happening in the real time. We will get to see, where all of the People are, how they are gonna make it to onigashima, what ships they will using, traitor, etc. There is stil much to do until we get to the climax. This FB just stretches everything more. I am not saying the FB itself is a bad Thing, no it isn't, it will help us understand more of Kinemons, Wano's etc. backstory. But Oda just stretched to much stuff, that i just already want to see something happen...and i am not THAT interested about Oden. This FB will probably take us over a month, if it will have atleast 4 chapter...1 whole month or even more, until we see the Story progressing again...
Again, it doesn't mean the FB is bad and i am gonna hate it, i just want to see the main Story finally Progressing after all the stretching.

Never said the FB can't be interesting or whatever, i just care more about the actual story right now, than a FB.

 

[Homelander]

Oden s flashback will be crucial for future arcs.He is key to one piece finale.

We know oden is the reason roger was able to reach laugh tale. He meet toki who is from void century.

Apart from that we have minks loyal to kozuki clan .

Why did oden banned poneglyph reading ?

How did kaido invade wano?

Does world govt play a role here because wano is close off from world? It holds key to past and history.

I mean lot of question will be soon answered. Like i said oden s past will have biggest role till finale.

 

[Brix]

Call me a retard one more fucking time!

Learn to read first. WHERE DID I SAID FB ARE BAD????? WHERE??????
Read properly, i said NOW People don't want to have the FB, because the Story finally got interesting. This FB can be shown ealier or later. Funny how you act like we have no clue of what Kaidou and Orochi did to Wano and Oden lol. We know that Oden was on WB's and Roger's ship, we know Oden was boiled, we see how Wano Looks now after Kaidou and Orochi got the power about this Country, we saw what they did to the People, we know Oden gave Kaidou his scar etc. etc. just some examples. This FB will just be more detailed. To say where is no emotions and no Story without the FB is stupid.

Did I say you said flashbacks are bad? I did not say that. Because you never said flashbacks are bad.

I was specifically calling you guys out because you want the flashbacks to be skipped. Not because you say flashbacks are bad.

You learn to read, not me.

Prior to Robin's full flashback. We also knew tidbits of it such as, that she's alone, Ohara was destroyed, etc..

But did we know the full story? NO. We found the whole story because of Robin's FULL backstory.

Because of showing the full backstory. It explained everything. We shed tears. We cared. It added more emotional weight.

Showing flashback after is retarded in this case. I already explained to you why.

Oda has been proven, and I put my trust on him, not to you all who voted " End. Now. WAR"

LMAOOO

 

[Homelander]

Let's ignore that as of now there is no way there is going to be a war in Onigashima due to traitor plot and no ships to transport 4 thousand soldiers. Kinnemon and Co are right now on a suicidal mission and are likely to get captured/killed. Also Kid wouldn't be involved in any fight in Onigashima since he has his own plan, this war is taking place in Wano not Onigashima and it will likely start at the end of Act 3 not now.

That would be good twist but last poneglyph is in kaidos den. So the war will be in onigashima.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

lol, so besides FB's nothing is considered ''Story telling''? They enjoy the most part of op which everything is story telling. But because they don't want to see a FB right now, when the main Story just got interesting, they are ''retards''? And guess what, everything that happended right now was for the FIGHT that is gonna happen, like in every other Arc. So don't act like fights are not part of OP and it's Story, when every Arc ended with a fight. People are waiting since the TS that the other SH's get some fights, which was around 9 years ago?! How is that a bad thing? But here you are, calling them ''retards''.
And i don't get your comment. I didn't read a single comment in this thread, where they said all they want are fights. They just care more about the main Story going on right now, than Oden's FB.

Well anyone who thinks like that is about to get fucked. The flashback is already over 2 chapters long and Oden hasn't even become Daimyo yet. This flashback will be the entirety of act 3 lmao.

 

[Homelander]

lol, so besides FB's nothing is considered ''Story telling''? They enjoy the most part of op which everything is story telling. But because they don't want to see a FB right now, when the main Story just got interesting, they are ''retards''? And guess what, everything that happended right now was for the FIGHT that is gonna happen, like in every other Arc. So don't act like fights are not part of OP and it's Story, when every Arc ended with a fight. People are waiting since the TS that the other SH's get some fights, which was around 9 years ago?! How is that a bad thing? But here you are, calling them ''retards''.
And i don't get your comment. I didn't read a single comment in this thread, where they said all they want are fights. They just care more about the main Story going on right now, than Oden's FB.

well thats how oda write. I mean if you have bedn long time reader you wont complain.

Post time skip is more focused on flashback and world design than fighting.

I mean tgis is build upto onigashima war. The war is about odens dream ahowing now was perfect.

If it was done earlier maybe reader wont find oden interesting.

When sengoku mentions oden was commander of WB pirates. He even tells oden holds key to wano border. It does create curious to the reader what oden was like . We only know he was on roger pirate and earlier on WB pirate crew. We had no clue he was a commander.

Slowly things are setting up to build main plot we know oden wanted to get out of wano for his personal boredom. In rogers flashback we see him talking about opening border.

All these points will hold key in this flashback. War is all about wano s open border and hold odens legacy.

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Well anyone who thinks like that is about to get fucked. The flashback is already over 2 chapters long and Oden hasn't even become Daimyo yet. This flashback will be the entirety of act 3 lmao.

I think it will be till he meets WB pirates i guess or when kaido boils him.

My guess this flashback will be longest. We need to see inu, neko, asura douji ,Kawamatsu.

There is izo ex commander of WB .

There are kanjuro and raizo welps it will take a lot more than 5 chapters.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oden s flashback will be crucial for future arcs.He is key to one piece finale.

We know oden is the reason roger was able to reach laugh tale. He meet toki who is from void century.

Apart from that we have minks loyal to kozuki clan .

Why did oden banned poneglyph reading ?

How did kaido invade wano?

Does world govt play a role here because wano is close off from world? It holds key to past and history.

I mean lot of question will be soon answered. Like i said oden s past will have biggest role till finale.

I prospect a long flashback

 

[Uncle Van]

This could be a long, lore heavy flashback due to how much ground it can cover. Oden is connected to/can lead to Roger, WB, Ryuma's grave, possible Void Century stuff with Lady Toki, CP0 dealings with Orochi, Kaido's arrival in Wano and allaince with Orochi etc, etc..I think some are prematurely assuming that this flashback will just be about showing what kind of person Oden is...or was...

It's better than flashbacks happening in the middle of the final battle like with Doflamingo. Every OP arc will have a long, sometimes dragged out build up.

 

[L o g i a]

Not true, everybody matters to somebody. He just doesn’t matter to me at all

Not nice to call someone a daft cant. Especially me, I have a can-do attitude

Which I don't understand, since he is literally the cause, catalyst and will likely have a hand in the resolution of all events in Wano to date.

You're really funny

 

[blackout]

I don't think this flashback will cover everything like everyone seems to be getting at. I think it'll mainly be about how Oden got his retainers and why they want to carry out his will so much (since that's a large part of the present day story). I suspect the flashback will end when Oden gathers everyone and decides to leave Wano. Which shouldn't take that many more chapters imo. There might be another flashback during the war, that covers Orochi's betrayal and Oden's death.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

I prefer to wait for an arc to finish. You enjoy it more when you binge read with no stops as opposed to weekly where you get one piece of the story each week.

 

[Longleg Larry]

You're really funny

U humble me
:cheers:
I nearly spit out my drink laughing at ur name. Bravo

 

[JerAx]

15 chapter minimum
5 now up until wb recruit him
5 with roger
5 with him back at wano

any less then oda is objectively lost his touch, and we crown hxh as the king of shonen

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

15 chapter minimum
5 now up until wb recruit him
5 with roger
5 with him back at wano

any less then oda is objectively lost his touch, and we crown hxh as the king of shonen

Nah, it'd be 8 chapters.

 

[JerAx]

Nah, it'd be 8 chapters.

 

[Longleg Larry]

5 with roger

That’s a lotta Roger