Speculations Could Luffy use a sword against Kaido?!

In which a Zoro fan implies that going from beneath a YC3 to being able to significant damage a Yonko is the same as going from YC3 to even with a YC1.
Not even with a YC1, but stronger and using a better (black) version of the only sword capable of cutting kaido...

"Luffy was stronger than Zoro then, and Kaido is far, far stronger than Katakuri.
Again he is scarring kaido not defeating him in a 1v1... it will need the combined efforts from everyone to defeat him, that's all
 
Not even with a YC1, but stronger and using a better (black) version of the only sword capable of cutting kaido...


Again he is scarring kaido not defeating him in a 1v1... it will need the combined efforts from everyone to do it that's all
In which a Zoro fan implies that going from beneath a YC3 to being able to significantly damage a Yonko (Zoro) is the same as going from YC3 to even with a YC1 (Luffy).

Doesn’t matter if he’s scarring him. Luffy was above a YC1 when he first faced Kaido at the beginning of Wano and couldn’t scratch him. Zoro is not that level now let alone later. The premise does not and has not ever made sense.

Also, regarding your “but it’s Zoro’s arc!!!” quote, it’s Luffy’s story. It’s the same nonsense Sanji’s fans cried out as they claimed Sanji was going to solo Katakuri because WCI was “Sanji’s arc!!!”
 
Since everyone put their "reasonable" analysis of why Luffy "can't shouldn't" use swords, then let me also put my opinion using the similar logic on this thread....

First, lets start with this statement of Luffy

"I can't use a sword! I can't navigate either! I can't cook! I can't tell lies!"
"What can you do then?"
"I can beat you!"

So from this point we knew that it was Luffy's job to beat "main/strongest boss" of every arc.....

Now, things got changed in Wano.....as things stand, Zoro is going to participate and wound Kaido because he "got enma and cover page/Ryuma" foreshadow....see at best there are two or three foreshadowing is enough to say that Zoro goes against Kaido and "sharing" Luffy's job...

Now why can't Luffy use swords as there are enough "heavily" implied hints present here and there like

1) Luffy used sword in thriller bark
2) Luffy posed with swords in two or three cover pages especially with one or two of them with cursed sword Nidai Kitetsu
3) Luffy carried sword with him in the whole act
4) Luffy was trained by swordsman of Roger Pirates
5) WB uses blade weapon/Luffy's inspiration Shanks uses sword/Roger used swords and since Luffy is going to become PK and inheriting the will of Roger he also can inherit swordsmanship as a part of fighting style exactly like him as Zoro inherited Enma.
6) Luffy has just learnt adCoA/Ryou which is also called BOAT/GOAT/VOAT(Luffy already has this) and is a swordsman technique and Grandpa Hyo is a swordsman he could have taught Luffy a thing or two about using swords.
7) Lastly, "I will cut Kaido down" statement is uncharacteristic of Luffy as he always says "I am gonna beat you down/I will kick your ass" can be considered as "nail in the coffin" that Luffy incorporates swordsman ship in his fighting style.

From the above seven "heavily" implied hints, it is not far-fetched to conclude that Luffy incorporating swordsmanship into his fighting style is more likely than or as likely as Zoro wounding Kaido

it just makes him more versatile and as @Monkey D Theories said Brook's role is musician but his fighting style is swordsmanship....

But worry not, just like how Luffy is the one finishes his job, Zoro is the one who is going to be strongest swordsman and WSS while Luffy is going to be PK.

PS: As for other things like being cook/doctor/navigator/shipwright/musician...it was never "hinted" at any part throughout the manga and once Luffy cooked food and it was "gag" so it was not considered.
Cutting Kaido down was also a gag.

He didn't say : "I will cut down Kaido !" that way
He said :"Kaido ? I will cut him down" in the way of "Come at me I'll cut you ! I'm a Samurai !!!", he just flexes and roleplay into his new Kabuto Armor

Baffles me how y'all can misinterpret Oda after 1000 chapters lmao
 
In which a Zoro fan implies that going from beneath a YC3 to being able to significantly damage a Yonko (Zoro) is the same as going from YC3 to even with a YC1 (Luffy).

Doesn’t matter if he’s scarring him. Luffy was above a YC1 when he first faced Kaido at the beginning of Wano and couldn’t scratch him. Zoro is not that level now let alone later. The premise does not and has not ever made sense.

Also, regarding your “but it’s Zoro’s arc!!!” quote, it’s Luffy’s story. It’s the same nonsense Sanji’s fans cried out as they claimed Sanji was going to solo Katakuri because WCI was “Sanji’s arc!!!”
again, being able to significantly damage a yonko = slightly above yc1 level and using a better version of enma that was hyped up for being the only weapon capable of scarring that yonko...
yeah... and lucci low-diffed luffy and zoro at the same time in water 7, turns out luffy was slightly stronger than him that's one piece for ya
the hitetsu guy said he could blacken enma (something oden himself was not capable) implying he is surpassing oden... enma is the sword used to cut kaido...
what was sanji's buildup to fighting against katakuri? stop clowning around it's not the same thing
 
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Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Apparently they do lol

In which a Zoro fan implies that going from beneath a YC3 to being able to significant damage a Yonko is the same as going from YC3 to even with a YC1.
Somebody that would have been handled by a low YC, like Zoro.

Luffy was stronger than Zoro then, and Kaido is far, far stronger than Katakuri.
In which a Zoro fan implies that going from beneath a YC3 to being able to significantly damage a Yonko (Zoro) is the same as going from YC3 to even with a YC1 (Luffy).

Doesn’t matter if he’s scarring him. Luffy was above a YC1 when he first faced Kaido at the beginning of Wano and couldn’t scratch him. Zoro is not that level now let alone later. The premise does not and has not ever made sense.

Also, regarding your “but it’s Zoro’s arc!!!” quote, it’s Luffy’s story. It’s the same nonsense Sanji’s fans cried out as they claimed Sanji was going to solo Katakuri because WCI was “Sanji’s arc!!!”
So you're judging everything by your own power level preferences? Katakuri was low diffing Luffy.......at the end of the fight Luffy was stronger...that's a huge leap in strength and apparantly YC1 low diffs YC3s.

Queen was capable of hurting BM with a headbutt but its Zoro fan logic to think Zoro can hurt Kaido with Enma Asura or something. You act like Zoro harming Kaido undermines Luffy, the guy who always has plot and help on his side to win..
 
Apparently they do lol

In which a Zoro fan implies that going from beneath a YC3 to being able to significant damage a Yonko is the same as going from YC3 to even with a YC1.
Somebody that would have been handled by a low YC, like Zoro.

Luffy was stronger than Zoro then, and Kaido is far, far stronger than Katakuri.
And Zoro hasn't been al out yet, so stop saying stupid stuff out of your junk. Enma has scarred Kaido and Zoro tamed it. OH MY ? How is that possible from someone who is not Luffy
Keep Luffy's D out of your mouth I know he is a D but you're taking it too far
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
again, being able to significantly damage a yonko = slightly above yc1 level and using a better version of enma that was hyped up for being the only weapon capable of scarring that yonko...
yeah... and lucci low-diffed luffy and zoro at the same time in water 7, turns out luffy was slightly stronger than him that's one piece for ya
the hitetsu guy said he could blacken enma (something oden himself was not capable) implying he is surpassing oden... enma is the sword used to cut kaido...
what was sanji's buildup to fighting against katakuri? stop clowning around it's not the same thing
I think an YC1 deals no damage to the admiral logia not sure about non logia tho
 
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Inspector_Mu

Just like how Luffy went from being low diff material for Katakuri to surpassing him over the course of 13 chapters or so.
Luffy was YC3 already
Kata low/midd diff at high tier who doesnt have great CoO and attack speed

Zoro isnt luffy too
Luffy potential >zoro
Proven by manga facts already
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If big mom is really kaido's ally then she is being taken down together with him in the last battle (supernovas vs yonko)... and zoro is one of the major players in this fight
The YC1 is being beaten by Zoro!!!!
The others are yc2, yc3... fodders compared to kaido
Zoro was never one of the major players lol

Luffy Kidd Law are major players
Then Zoro Sanji Killer Hawkins Drake who might help out but they arent major players as those 3 up.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I think Luffy fans are feeling the heat and start to lose their reason(not that they were far more reasonable before) when you see them backing up the idea of Luffy accomplishing anything with a sword. If Luffy ever gets a weapon, which I think he should(would increase his chances against swordsmen) the best they can hope for is a staff. Sword is a dream that the sooner they forget the better.
 
Luffy was YC3 already
Kata low/midd diff at high tier who doesnt have great CoO and attack speed

Zoro isnt luffy too
Luffy potential >zoro
Proven by manga facts already
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Zoro was never one of the major players lol

Luffy Kidd Law are major players
Then Zoro Sanji Killer Hawkins Drake who might help out but they arent major players as those 3 up.
"proven by manga facts" well, yes, two piece's facts...

Luffy Zoro Kidd Law are major players...
Sanji ain't helping he is not even a supernova
 
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Shura

I think Luffy fans are feeling the heat and start to lose their reason(not that they were far more reasonable before) when you see them backing up the idea of Luffy accomplishing anything with a sword. If Luffy ever gets a weapon, which I think he should(would increase his chances against swordsmen) the best they can hope for is a staff. Sword is a dream that the sooner they forget the better.
"Reasonable" is a big word coming from the mouth which said "Kaku being faster than snakeman"...swordsman is not doing shit against Luffy like how Kidd can't neg diff swordsman....even it took sometime for Posthawk to tag along Luffy ....at best they can hope for minor cuts here and there....unless, Luffy loses all the defense and allow the swordsman to willingly cut him, it ain't going to happen...
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
"Reasonable" is a big word coming from the mouth which said "Kaku being faster than snakeman"
I stand by what I said, it doesnt mean you have to agree with it.
...swordsman is not doing shit against Luffy like how Kidd can't neg diff swordsman....even it took sometime for Posthawk to tag along Luffy ....at best they can hope for minor cuts here and there....unless, Luffy loses all the defense and allow the swordsman to willingly cut him, it ain't going to happen...
Yeah, that's why no opponent in the past nor in the future that Luffy is set against is a master swordsman. Because they cant do shit against Luffy and the fight would be way too one-sided. :sneaky:
 
again, being able to significantly damage a yonko = slightly above yc1 level and using a better version of enma that was hyped up for being the only weapon capable of scarring that yonko...
yeah... and lucci low-diffed luffy and zoro at the same time in water 7, turns out luffy was slightly stronger than him that's one piece for ya
the hitetsu guy said he could blacken enma (something oden himself was not capable) implying he is surpassing oden... enma is the sword used to cut kaido...
what was sanji's buildup to fighting against katakuri? stop clowning around it's not the same thing
No, it’s not. We’ve already seen that being able to significantly damage does not equal being slightly above a YC1. Luffy was slightly above a YC1 and have everything he had to Kaido and couldn’t scratch him.

Luffy and Lucci back on EL is not even a remotely accurate comparison.

Regardless of whatever buildup, which there is little in regards to Zoro and Kaido anyway, the fact was that Sanji was never going to take care of Katakuri because he wasn’t even remotely close to being in his league, the same as Zoro in this arc. That’s why they didn’t fight.
So you're judging everything by your own power level preferences? Katakuri was low diffing Luffy.......at the end of the fight Luffy was stronger...that's a huge leap in strength and apparantly YC1 low diffs YC3s.

Queen was capable of hurting BM with a headbutt but its Zoro fan logic to think Zoro can hurt Kaido with Enma Asura or something. You act like Zoro harming Kaido undermines Luffy, the guy who always has plot and help on his side to win..
No, I’m judging everything by power levels established in the manga. Katakuri would have rolled Cracker, and Luffy was on Cracker’s level at in that fight. The gap between Luffy and Katakuri wasn’t nearly as wide then as what Zoro’s fans are suggesting he is going to overcome now.

Queen did not hurt Big Mom at all. He fell on her head and she was fine, and then fell asleep. He didn’t do anything to her. And yes, Luffy would be undermined.
 
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