Who is this "Oden"?


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Lets see...

Foza - Doesnt eist
Doffy - Has no fire techniques. Only has a heat attack due to condensed strings
Hyougoro - Sword technique
Marigold - She lights herself on fire. She doesnt create it
Luffy - Due to G2 + haki he creates flames....weird but yh
Kinemon - Sword technique
Zoro - Sword technique
Katakuri - Technique with mochu
Hanyabal - Weapon that emits fire


As you can see, they either use techniques, weapons or just light themselves on fire. Nothing comes close to just spontaneous combastion like Sanji
King and sanji are obviously better at it than the others. But marigold for example, lighting a match, and then combusting into fire makes no sense on its own. She clearly amplifys it like sanji did pre timeskip. Sanji didn't always combust like he dies now. The same applies to most of these guys doffys overheat and katakuris fire mochi for example. Don'ttry to just say mochi technique lmao.. Foza does exist. He is a whirebeard devision commander who has a flaming sword... you also can't just say "Sword technique" and explain that shit away with a non answer. They do the same thing to their swords, that sanji and others are doing to their limbs. Like hardening, it's not 2 different things depending on what it's used for. You are trying to explain extremely similar things away with 10 different explanations when there is no need to. It's haki/spirit related for all of them, but those who ain't specialists in it use a outward heat source to get their fire started, match, friction, heat etc.
 
Darn I’ve seen rough takes but shanks 12 years ago > current shanks is the dumbest I’ve seen in a while
I see the "logic" but at the same time, Shanks became a Yonko AFTER losing his arm so its kind of funny to see it get thrown around.

Edit: Now I see the point @Monkey D Luffy was making

Honestly, I'm even curious if Shanks thinks its a handicap. Like the dude can straight up tank a punch from Akainu or Whitebeard with 1 arm and not even care. Its...interesting to say the least.
 
Yup. My thinking is IMU sama will have Royal guards.... who will be straw hats final enemies....with IMU being Luffy's final villain
It makes the MOST SENSE....

The reason is really simple, the Final Enemy is someone who will represent the 100 years of void century... a powerful figure who was in that time/era... and started this whole mess of creating what it's called "The World Government" and not some orphan who got a refuge on WB ship to attain power to find One Piece, or an admiral of Navy who hates Pirates.... it makes ZERO SENSE... the enemy is someone who will basically tie EVERYTHING from beginning of series until now, storywise... basically to tie and connect every dot in story.... hell, maybe the existance of DFs and how it came to be, and so on will be revealed during that event... maybe even how Haki was originated in human....

in summery, this has ALWAYS BEEN the formula for Long Running shonen....
- Bleach started with Ichigo (shinigami) meeting Ishida (Quincy) and stories were told about animosity between the two types, the story focused then on Hollows... but at the end of day, IT ALL CAME BACK as a circle to the "Shinigami vs Quincy" final war... representing thousand years history ever since the early beginning of story.... of Soul King/Juha Bach/Yamamoto....etc...

- Naruto: Same formula, it all came back to the originator of Chakra, the sage of 6th path, resulted in revealing his Mom the true originator) Kaguya.... (small note, sage of 6th path would have made better final villain imo, but that's fine LOL).... anyway, all this talk about Madara this, madara that, is exactly like how people in One Piece are in denial and thinking Blackbeard or Akainu are final villains...they won't

One Piece will have same formula and the STORY is going that direction with introduction of Imu-sama already....
 
I love how ruthless Queen is, the man still has time to mock his own subordinates even after taking a beating from Marco. Despite Queen being goofy, it seems like Oda is trying to make him into a irredeemable villain.
I love Queen, but he's fucking doing Zero useful thing for beast Pirates side LOL

Though I still love the guy for his dances, and funk attitude, his Excitooooo moment was one of the BEST HIGHLIGHTs in Wano arc
 
King and sanji are obviously better at it than the others. But marigold for example, lighting a match, and then combustion into fire makes nonsense on its own. She clearly amplifys it like sanji did pre timeskip. Sanji didn't always combust like he dies now. The same applies to most of these guys doffys overheat and katakuris fire mochi for example. Don'ttry to just say mochi technique lmao.. Foza does exist. He is a whirebeard devision commander who has a flaming sword... you also can't just say "Sword technique" and explain that shit away with a non answer. They do the same thing to their swords, that sanji and others are doing to their limbs. Like hardening, it's not 2 different things depending on what it's used for. You are trying to explain extremely similar things away with 10 different explanations when there is no need to. It's haki/spirit related for all of them, but those who ain't specialists in it use a outward heat source to get their fire started, match, friction, heat etc.
Marigold sets herself on fire. She probably has something flammable on herself.

And yes Sanji pre timeskip was just combusting all the time. Did you not see Thriller Bark where he kept on exploding and Zoro said he was about to transform.

Sanji has siblings that can control elements due to being modified at birth. Sure their are many other element users that have the same abilities as them,, but they were modified to get it. So was Sanji, as Sanji got his DNA manipulated by Sora's Drug as that reacted with the modifications Judge did.

Their is no answer for what Sanji does with this fire and where it comes from. He doesnt spin, light himself on fire, have a specific style or a specfic weapon that helps him do any of this.

No he just explodes


What we do know about it:

- It only appears due to anger. So its an emotion based fire ability, different to any other fire user.
- Sanji's heart burns hotter than it so it doesnt affect him.
 
Swordsmen like oden and zoro obviously all say "1-2-3 swordstyle" before attacks. Can't be a swordsman otherwise :milaugh:
Marigold sets herself on fire. She probably has something flammable on herself.

And yes Sanji pre timeskip was just combusting all the time. Did you not see Thriller Bark where he kept on exploding and Zoro said he was about to transform.

Sanji has siblings that can control elements due to being modified at birth. Sure their are many other element users that have the same abilities as them,, but they were modified to get it. So was Sanji, as Sanji got his DNA manipulated by Sora's Drug as that reacted with the modifications Judge did.

Their is no answer for what Sanji does with this fire and where it comes from. He doesnt spin, light himself on fire, have a specific style or a specfic weapon that helps him do any of this.

No he just explodes


What we do know about it:

- It only appears due to anger. So its an emotion based fire ability, different to any other fire user.
- Sanji's heart burns hotter than it so it doesnt affect him.
Yea sanji is clearly very good at this fire thing. It doesn't mean it's any different than what the others are using, just to a different degree. Marigold has something flammable on her? And just somehow doesn't get hurt by it? Stop. If this was a vinsmoke tech judge would have Gloated and taken credit. This is the same as luffy uses, king, marigold, foza and more. Sanji is just a specialist in it and has much greater control of it at this point than most others we have seen.
 
I think it went two-arm Shanks > Mihawk > one-arm Shanks. Mihawk dueled Shanks as a Yonko and was disappointed his one arm ruined his potential.
Most likely wrong. Mihawk is the Kind of guy that would be desperate to beat Shanks to prove that he is Worthy of his title no matter what Handicap his Opponent has as long as he is still possibly stronger than Mihawk. And Shanks is the type of guy who values friendship over fame so he would not challenge Mihawk and risk hurt his pride by doing so. The fact that Shanks did so anyway and that Mihawk instead looks down on him tells us that they must have been equal back then.
 
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