Zoro dodged all those Boulders falling upon him most likely thanks to CoO, it was a near death experience more probably. Also the notion about being able to hear the swords breathing.
Zoro vs Mr.1 is still heavily debated, I think he probably learned how to cut through steel independently from haki knowing how awesome he was, but there's no firm proof, but Koushiro gave Zoro a similar explanation as Hyogoro gave to Luffy, however Zoro felt surprised by witnessing the latter's haki.
Well you actually make a case for CoO due that state of focus "BOAT".. in which the sword and the swordsman is 1 and the sword succumbs to the will/intentions of its master.. which would makes sense when you compare it to what hyo and Koushiro said, that a good sword cuts what its masters want..
are u sure... he doesn't even mention zoro.. he literally says "ahh it hurts it must be odens sword ic" which is specifically calling out enma for hurting him...
Well you actually make a case for CoO due that state of focus "BOAT".. in which the sword and the swordsman is 1 and the sword succumbs to the will/intentions of its master.. which would makes sense when you compare it to what hyo and Koushiro said, that a good sword cuts what its masters want..
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Kaido didn't say anything about other 2 swords slicing his scales.. he only noted to 1
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are u sure... he doesn't even mention zoro.. he literally says "ahh it hurts it must be odens sword ic" which is specifically calling out enma for hurting him...
I think it's not that crazy to believe that Zoro managed to cut steel without relying on haki, characters are highly superhuman and steel is not hyped remotely as much as diamond in the manga, of course the theory about Koushiro and Hyogoro makes sense, in that case it could constitute ACoA, albeit Zoro showed to be impressed by Luffy's Red Rock for the reasons we are aware of.
yea but intentions isn't really mental energy if you're imposing your decisions on to your sword.. which is a type of will.. mental energy is basically your determination and mental rigidness an invisible power that comes from your body according to hyo..
in mr 1'd case its intentions there is no energy being derived from the body.. but the body is in a state of focus and the user imposes its decision and intention on the sword.. zoro saying that the sword understands my will just means that the swords knows the intention of its master
haki is like chakra where u have to derive both haki and chakra from your body, but will (has 2 meanings this one here in this context doesn't mean spiritual energy) are something directed and impose on something hence what zoro meant by "the sword understands my will"
Yes it is, anything you do is through your mental capacity. You can't have any intention without thinking using your mental energy.
It understand his will, which is to cut steel and to be able to cut steel you need haki hence his will is his intent = spirit.
Yes it is, anything you do is through your mental capacity. You can't have any intention without thinking using your mental energy.
It understand his will, which is to cut steel and to be able to cut steel you need haki hence his will is his intent = spirit.
Yes it is, anything you do is through your mental capacity. You can't have any intention without thinking using your mental energy.
It understand his will, which is to cut steel and to be able to cut steel you need haki hence his will is his intent = spirit.
where does it say that to cut steel you need haki... again zoro asked the exact same thing and Koushiro didn't sit a discuss haki with him he discussed that those who are capable of cutting steel are one with the sword and their sword knows their intentions.
tho i agree that to make decisions needs mental work but haki is mental and spiritual power in essence that one derives which intentions isn't
will 1 = spirit energy (eg: you have a strong will)
will 2 = intentions ( eg she does as she will)
spirit has nothing to do with ones intentions..
a strong spirited/willed person isn't afraid of Sohe king
someone's will/intention can be to apologize for what they did..
"ahh it Hurts it must be oden's blade"... specifying what damaged him or which blade.. since he knows its taste and got scarred (which itches now and then) so he has a better understanding of what hit him
then BM saying "that is no your ordinary blade"
both of them calling out the blade that specific blade thats very potent.. and no other.. it should be obvious.
lets not grasp for straws
Remove Luffy's status as the main character, and you will only get Zoro that is built differently tbh.
> Kaido dodged current Luffy's attack because his Red Roc damaged Kaido earlier.
Yep, big thing. Except it only took Alabasta arc for Zoro to make Kaido dodges his attack.
> Zoro already survived Top Tier Mihawk's attack since East Blue, and this chapter after tasting Hakai, he didn't go down and still able to fight Prometheus.
Luffy until some days ago was still taken out by Thunder Bagua, which is far below Hakai, and most likely closer to Mihawk's nameless Yoru slash that Zoro ate in East Blue.
But since Luffy is the main character, so sure, he will also get big rewards later.
Enma couldn't defeat a much weaker Kaido that was in his dragon form Ame no habakiri doing the same ammount od damage.
Enma is classified as great grade blade in the same ranks as Shusui Wado and Ame they have different quirks but all possess the same qualities maybe except shusui that is a black blade the only other one aside from Mihawks Yoru.
Enma drains the users own haki unless you get it perfectly under control there is a huge cost that comes with using it, i think we have beaten this topic to death already you keep overrating it because of your insecurity lmao. There is no need for that though Luffy is strong enough he doesn't need that undermining of his right hand man :cheers:
Enma couldn't defeat a much weaker Kaido that was in his dragon form Ame no habakiri doing the same ammount od damage.
Enma is classified as great grade blade in the same ranks as Shusui Wado and Ame they have different quirks but all possess the same qualities maybe except shusui that is a black blade the only other one aside from Mihawks Yoru.
Enma drains the users own haki unless you get it perfectly under control there is a huge cost that comes with using it, i think we have beaten this topic to death already you keep overrating it because of your insecurity lmao. There is no need for that though Luffy is strong enough he doesn't need that undermining of his right hand man :cheers:
where does it say that to cut steel you need haki... again zoro asked the exact same thing and Koushiro didn't sit a discuss haki with him he discussed that those who are capable of cutting steel are one with the sword and their sword knows their intentions.
tho i agree that to make decisions needs mental work but haki is mental and spiritual power in essence that one derives which intentions isn't
will 1 = spirit energy (eg: you have a strong will)
will 2 = intentions ( eg she does as she will)
spirit has nothing to do with ones intentions..
a strong spirited/willed person isn't afraid of Sohe king
someone's will/intention can be to apologize for what they did..
Hyou and koushiro dialogue basically confirm it.
Yes it does, If zoro did not have the spirit to overcome his predicament (to cut steel) he wouldn't have been able to unlock haki/boat. He would have just died there when he was severely cut by Mr 1 attack prior to his flashback of koushiro. His intention to cut steel is fueled by his indomitable spirit to overcome challenges that are before him.
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