Which Supernova are capable of properly damaging Kaido

  • Kidd

  • Killer

  • Law

  • Luffy

  • Zoro

  • None of them


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#81
you don't need haki to cut steel.

when zoro asked koshiro about swordsmen that cut anything... he didn't teach him what haki is... he taught him that succumbing your sword ti you intentions is the key to cut nothing and everything
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Then why wasn't Zoro capable in cutting Mr 1 before he learned boat, which according to you is when Zoro imposes his intention/will unto the sword to cut nothing or everything?
 
#82
koshiro never said boat
zoro said it

and yes it did its in the first fucking post a quote from another thread that zoro used a haki barrier big enough to hold back hakai with all 3 swords
that basic ARNAMENT he use to defend if with which shouldn't be impossible.....


Koushiro explained the concept of Breath of all things even tho he didn't name it... his explanation has nothing to do with haki in general just swordsmanship
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Then why wasn't Zoro capable in cutting Mr 1 before he learned boat, which according to you is when Zoro imposes his intention/will unto the sword to cut nothing or everything?
BOAT is a technique... a state where you can hear the breath of the thing around you and a state where your sword succumbs to your intentions... and that s what zoro executed and manage to asses and cut the breath of Mr1's steel
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#83
that basic ARNAMENT he use to defend if with which shouldn't be impossible.....


Koushiro explained the concept of Breath of all things even tho he didn't name it... his explanation has nothing to do with haki in general just swordsmanship
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BOAT is a technique... a state where you can hear the breath of the thing around you and a state where your sword succumbs to your intentions... and that s what zoro executed and manage to asses and cut the breath of Mr1's steel
no its not basic haki
one his swords werent coated two the hakai which was much bigger than zoro was held in place basic haki doesnt do that
when law used haki to block doffys strings he was fine but the strings cut either side of him
 
#87
Yes you do, that's what coc is basically, succumbing to someone's else will
sorry but nope.. thats not what Koushiro taught him and Aokiji didn't nit to any haki usage.. which he and the admirals in the pretime skip usually do
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and bro we're are talking about arnment not Conquerers lol.. tho it would be interesting if that possible
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no its not basic haki
one his swords werent coated two the hakai which was much bigger than zoro was held in place basic haki doesnt do that
when law used haki to block doffys strings he was fine but the strings cut either side of him
Yea invisible ARNAMENT will do that job... but in the panels it very unclear if they are black coated even if they were the light of Haki would just out shine them
 
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#88
sorry but nope.. thats not what Koushiro taught him and Aokiji didn't nit to any haki usage.. which he and the admirals in the pretime skip usually do
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and bro we're are talking about arnment not Conquerers lol.. tho it would be interesting if that possible
i was using your logic of imposing one's will/intentions unto one's blade and yet you disagree with it

You were the one who said haki
will is interchangeable with intentions there.. you don't succumb to haki.. you succumb to intentions which would make more sense
 
#89
i was using your logic of imposing one's will/intentions unto one's blade and yet you disagree with it

You were the one who said haki
yea i did but will here meant intention jot spiritual power

intentions are not spiritual power

making your sword succumb to your will/intention is diff enter from manifesting will on your sword... where in one you're becoming 1 with the sword in a state of extreme focus and the second is you're just using spiritual energy to manifest a palpable armour around your sword they are 2 different thing.


a personals last will can be to eat papa Jones

and a person can have a strong will or determination aka spiritual will
 
#90
yea i did but will here meant intention jot spiritual power

intentions are not spiritual power

making your sword succumb to your will/intention is diff enter from manifesting will on your sword... where in one you're becoming 1 with the sword in a state of extreme focus and the second is you're just using spiritual energy to manifest a palpable armour around your sword they are 2 different thing.


a personals last will can be to eat papa Jones

and a person can have a strong will or determination aka spiritual will
What the fuck is this bullshit? Spitiual powers?

will/intent is haki.

So what did zoro used in alabasta his will/intent/haki or spiritual powers?
 
#92
will in that context is just intentions which isn't spiritual energy
so what is spiritual power/energy in that context?
also rayleigh here was talking about the ability to sense spiritual energy i.e. people/animals which is coo. Are you implying armament haki is through the power of spiritual energy which can be also worded as your spirit which is will/haki.
 
#93
so what is spiritual power/energy in that context?
also rayleigh here was talking about the ability to sense spiritual energy i.e. people/animals which is coo. Are you implying armament haki is through the power of spiritual energy which can be also worded as your spirit which is will/haki.
will has 2 meanings.. ones intentions and one's spirit...

breath of all things is intentions affiliated

arnment haki or just haki is spirit energy related
 

Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#96
Zoro dodged all those Boulders falling upon him most likely thanks to CoO, it was a near death experience more probably. Also the notion about being able to hear the swords breathing.

Zoro vs Mr.1 is still heavily debated, I think he probably learned how to cut through steel independently from haki knowing how awesome he was, but there's no firm proof, but Koushiro gave Zoro a similar explanation as Hyogoro gave to Luffy, however Zoro felt surprised by witnessing the latter's haki.
 
#97
bro by definition they are both separate things lmao.... Boat is intentions,intent ,and a decision u may say
in Zoro vs mr 1's case his will (intention) to cut mr1's steel

edit: and haki is mental energy or power

If haki is mental energy or power, then boat is will/haki since you can't make a decision or intents without using your mind.
 
#99

If haki is mental energy or power, then boat is will/haki since you can't make a decision or intents without using your mind.
yea but intentions isn't really mental energy if you're imposing your decisions on to your sword.. which is a type of will.. mental energy is basically your determination and mental rigidness an invisible power that comes from your body according to hyo..

in mr 1'd case its intentions there is no energy being derived from the body.. but the body is in a state of focus and the user imposes its decision and intention on the sword.. zoro saying that the sword understands my will just means that the swords knows the intention of its master

haki is like chakra where u have to derive both haki and chakra from your body, but will (has 2 meanings this one here in this context doesn't mean spiritual energy) are something directed and impose on something hence what zoro meant by "the sword understands my will"

intentions are not = spiritual energy
 
Not "magical" zoro is strong enough to wield the blade. its that blade innate properties help zoro damage kaido which is the release of excess haki.. I'll be that if handed that sword over to Vista he'd do a better job at focusing haki... thats what zoro has to learn
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do you realize that the post you quoted is primarily a subjective opinion...
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the point remains... enma damages kaido and enma alone has been seen accomplishing that feat... there is little evidence that zoro can do that without "unleashing" more of enma only and the panels are focused on enma imbued with visible haki and not other swords.. when zoro adapts enmas abilities to other sword.. then you can make a case for zoro individually being able to accomplish such feat without relying primarily on enma
Zoro used 3 swords to damage Kaido actually.
 
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