News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread
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"To cut down an oni in one clean sweep, he's on his way to Onigashima!"
So even the vivre card are confirming that Zoro target is Kaido. Well guys, there it is your final fight for Zoro! By the way, they say to cut down in one clean sweep, that mean this feat hasnt happen yet, Zoro left a scar but didnt cut down clean Kaido. Foreshadowin 100% more interaction between Zoro&Kaido.
Greg from One Piece, mention that Kaido could be an Oni. There was a panel where Zoro used Oni-giri and Greg mention that is appriopriate to be used vs Kaido (based of his race).
He achieved a complete victory with Rengoku Onigiri over Killer, the manslayer Kamazou who terrorised the Flower Capital!
This was just so obvious from the get go. Even the anime show the total superiority of Zoro.
In any case, thanks @Den_Den_Mushi for your translations.
So even the vivre card are confirming that Zoro target is Kaido. Well guys, there it is your final fight for Zoro! By the way, they say to cut down in one clean sweep, that mean this feat hasnt happen yet, Zoro left a scar but didnt cut down clean Kaido. Foreshadowin 100% more interaction between Zoro&Kaido.
Greg from One Piece, mention that Kaido could be an Oni. There was a panel where Zoro used Oni-giri and Greg mention that is appriopriate to be used vs Kaido (based of his race).
He achieved a complete victory with Rengoku Onigiri over Killer, the manslayer Kamazou who terrorised the Flower Capital!
This was just so obvious from the get go. Even the anime show the total superiority of Zoro.
In any case, thanks @Den_Den_Mushi for your translations.
and yet you keep getting baited again, now i wonder who's the fool is 
Agreed yasuie is goat, here I'm wondering just how big his heart is... Truly hero of wano
Idk why his appearance matters
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He also took those bullets and died smiling. Big Goat fr 
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Idk why his appearance matters
I did not find that term you say in the original text of the Databook, maybe there is another term used for it
Here is the scan so we can be sure to stay correct (should be the bottom right if I'm not wrong)
I got many messages, also by japanese people themselves, who told me it clearly says/means "after", after putting a translation of one of the translators here from WorstGen (I didnt know him) who said "next to" in my Story
[This is the only one I found in my screenshots]
This is also a translation I found in the internet, not sure who translated it, but in the bottom he specially mentioned that it says "just behind the captain"
Artus's translation also says "after" - which definitely makes sense context wise tbh, he's always fighting the second strongest and not the main strongest enemy for a reason
I found no other translations in the internet, but the two I found there and the many people who messaged me on Insta, all say that it specifically says/means "after" (whether it is word by word "after", or just context wise clear, idk)
So I'm kinda confused by your claims now, but obviously open to change my mind if you can explain it logically/linguistically
I'm not deluded like most of y'all here just trying desperately to defend my own claims - I love debating and scaling also for the reason to change other peoples mind and also my own mind to the most logical conclusion
Here is the scan so we can be sure to stay correct (should be the bottom right if I'm not wrong)
I got many messages, also by japanese people themselves, who told me it clearly says/means "after", after putting a translation of one of the translators here from WorstGen (I didnt know him) who said "next to" in my Story
[This is the only one I found in my screenshots]
This is also a translation I found in the internet, not sure who translated it, but in the bottom he specially mentioned that it says "just behind the captain"
Artus's translation also says "after" - which definitely makes sense context wise tbh, he's always fighting the second strongest and not the main strongest enemy for a reason
I found no other translations in the internet, but the two I found there and the many people who messaged me on Insta, all say that it specifically says/means "after" (whether it is word by word "after", or just context wise clear, idk)
So I'm kinda confused by your claims now, but obviously open to change my mind if you can explain it logically/linguistically
I'm not deluded like most of y'all here just trying desperately to defend my own claims - I love debating and scaling also for the reason to change other peoples mind and also my own mind to the most logical conclusion
That’s mine. I posted it originally on OJ.
に次ぐ - comes just after/just behind X
接ぐ - adjoining X
The VC mentions the first, not the second. The pronunciation is the same so 接ぐ most likely stems from a typo.
For future reference though, I wouldn’t use Arthur’s translations. The man makes shit up and fucks up majorly, such as when he described Chopper as ‘half human’ in a translation. Chopper is no such thing and that’s not what the text said to begin with.
に次ぐ - comes just after/just behind X
接ぐ - adjoining X
The VC mentions the first, not the second. The pronunciation is the same so 接ぐ most likely stems from a typo.
For future reference though, I wouldn’t use Arthur’s translations. The man makes shit up and fucks up majorly, such as when he described Chopper as ‘half human’ in a translation. Chopper is no such thing and that’s not what the text said to begin with.
悪魔の実のなかでも - among devil fruits
最高峰 - highest level of/ pinnacle of
攻撃力 - offensive power
idk what Fuji’s card says but that’s some high praise for Akainu’s fruit.
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It's supposed to be a wordplay I think but the meaning does seem to lean towards Zoro targeting Kaido specifically. Don't ask me to translate wordplays lol, I just convey whatever meaning was behind the pun, not the pun itself.
なで斬り鬼斬り鬼ヶ島へいざ参る
なで斬り - clean sweep, to kill several things in one slash
鬼斬り - Zoro's Onigiri attack, but can also be split into 鬼 (Oni) and 斬り(to cut)
鬼ヶ島へいざ参る - is going to Onigashima
Doesn't make sense to translate it as 'going to Onigashima to (use the attack) Onigiri in one fell swoop'. It only makes sense if he's talking about his desire to kill Kaido (which he also mentioned to Queen).
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That war they are on the same team sorry to disappoint u 
I know remmeber mihawk couldn't even get past vista while the same admiral took his head off in advance and came back to fight Vista(mihawk equal) 15 other commanders
Sorry manga already confirmed that kizaru can handle his own with kaido.
Don't forget Pre-Udon Luffy put down kaido and zoro failed to do it
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In the same war they are portrayed on the same side fighting WB crew keep your headacanons to urself admiral tard
What ?
Day dream Mihawk didn't get injured by Vista whilst ladmirals bled and kissed the ground by commanders what ? 15 commanders 
he couldn't even bypass Marco 
and what happened before that in two shot he kissed the ground cursing and ran away from dead beard
He couldn't even handle Old ray who didn't pick a sword for years
It's true Pre udon did that but let's hype post udon who is mastering adv CoC but ladmirals got a dead bearf who doesn't have it and still made their strongest admiral cursing and kissing the ground and running away
We can talk how WG didn't scarre Kaido with Ladmirals there but Zoro could
WG captured him and tried to kill him per author words :kizabat: and you know there is certain fodders there who couldn't scarre him let alone killing him 
In the same war they are portrayed on the same side fighting WB crew keep your headacanons to urself admiral tard
What ?
Day dream Mihawk didn't get injured by Vista whilst ladmirals bled and kissed the ground by commanders
what ? 15 commanders he couldn't even bypass Marco and what happened before that in two shot he kissed the ground cursing and ran away from dead beard He couldn't even handle Old ray who didn't pick a sword for years
It's true Pre udon did that but let's hype post udon who is mastering adv CoC but ladmirals got a dead bearf who doesn't have it and still made their strongest admiral cursing and kissing the ground and running away
We can talk how WG didn't scarre Kaido with Ladmirals there but Zoro could
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Just like Newgate, Roger and all Yonko "couldnt" scar Kaido. 
Perhaps they never "tried" to. Ever thought about that option?
Perhaps they never "tried" to. Ever thought about that option?