Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1013 Spoilers Discussion

[Buusatan94]

Yamato is so uninteresting

I was already bemused that she was made for Onigashima raid despite having never been mentionned or hinted to exist in the first two acts of Wano, but her being such a crazy Oden simp and calling herself Oden didn't made me interested or fond of her at all.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Yes to fight King.

king will be the train than zoro will awake the sword black

 

[Cinera]

I feel that we will get one or few cringeworthy "You are not my father" or "I am Oden" moment and get some Scabbards-like moments with Yamato being able of injuring her father only to be easely smashed after once again.

I expect Yamato will do some damage and ultimately get defeated, but I don't think it has to be cringy or distasteful. I think Doflamingo vs Law was a good example of how to write a battle that's destined for failure while respecting the characters involved.

I also expect Yamato to confront Kaido as his estranged child who bears a grudge (she disowned him already) and not just as someone trying to fulfill Oden's will.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

That's why i said it's massive headcanon. I don't talk about Kidd cos we don't have exact intel of his strength as he was off-screen the whole time until the raid. But for Law we have a whole arc dedicated to him, how much he stack up to Doffy, and we got the answer, Doffy at worst mid diff him. By the end of Dressrosa, Luffy>> Law.

You think Law off-screen training grew 3 times stronger to fact that he could be stronger than Luffy that went hard battle in WCI, facing an opponent that is even stronger than Doffy that whopped Law and eventually came out on top.

What off-screen training your referring to?? Law and the others keep hiding and doesn't cost any ruckus in Wano until Luffy came. Luffy grew in strength when he battle someone initially stronger than him(Katakuri). What did law train? by himself?? Kinemon teach him?? Or kiki?? who else?? If you're gonna get substantially stronger in those short time you need to train with someone stronger than you, someone who can teach you new teachnique. Law has none, he was with Kinemon, his crew and other SH. Lol

Yes, just like Luffy in 1 arc grow from having no business competing with Rob Lucci to be able to beating him.

Law got jumped by Fuji and Doffy and was nerf that whole time afterwards

Law can literally go train anywhere. We see its a wasteland.

Like i said Law could of done anything we don't know.

 

[Jorden625]

Big Mom has some cool ass attacks, I just wish her character was consistent. Ulti's probably gonna be done for the arc. I can't really see her walking that off. Kidd slammed Big Mom, which is fine, but it's not something that makes me think "oh Kidd's got this". The ending is okay. I kinda like Kaido's dialogue, I don't really care for this situation, because it's just not interesting.

 

[mly90]

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> Zoro and Sanji after Luffy vs Kaido fight

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Zoro and Sanji: It was great while it lasted let's follow our captain to the after world

 

[m0nst3Rx]

How many times is Luffy going to lose ?

untill zoro kill kaido

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Kaido would pf killed Luffy if he wasn't protagonist.

You basically summarized the reason for the whole discussion in a single sentence.

 

[Zolo]

untill zoro kill kaido

Sanji is going to fight Kaido now alone

 

[rerere]

Wb was sexist
Kaido and shanks are racist
Meme a feminist
What's bbs deal ?

Wait where are these things implied?
I can see Linlin being feminist but Shanks a racist!?
Also WB and Kaido confuse me...

 

[Bogard]

Just realized that Jinbei potentially has been fighting Who's Who for hour(s) now @playa4321

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Sanji is going to fight Kaido now alone

no bro when he had a whole arc to fight with a yonko he just baked a god damn cake. anyway we cant expect more than from a cook.
qeen vs sanji or lower fodder better matchup. he wont even see kaidos ass

 

[comrade]

Just realized that Jinbei potentially has been fighting Who's Who for hour(s) now @playa4321

Who's Who + his crew while having no access to water, doing mostly stalling probably.

 

[rerere]

Just realized that Jinbei potentially has been fighting Who's Who for hour(s) now @playa4321

He definitly is, Jimbe met Who's Who in chapter 998 when him and Luffy were on the 4th floor. After that Luffy had to reach the rooftop, fought for at least 20 minutes, lost consciusness (at least 5-10 minutes), came back fighting for some time, lost senses while the others pushed Linlin outside and Zoro used Asura, then we know that Luffy fought Kaido 1v1 with CoC for something like 20 minutes or more until now that he got KOed again.
People don't realize it but several hours passed since the start of the raid...

 

[Strawhats Bible]

Wonder why Oda specifically chose Jinbe and Franky to give their matchups so early into the raid.
They probably need to finish their fight first to accomplish another objective.

 

[rerere]

Who's Who + his crew while having no access to water, doing mostly stalling probably.

I guess WW crew was defeated in the first 10 minutes or didn't intervene at all.
Who's Who first words to Jimbe was exactly to stop bullying his men

 

[Screws Loose242]

Luffy is to weak for kaido I guess, kaido sad luffy couldnt entertain him more , and it seems luffy got body by base kaido just like RS

 

[mly90]

The bit about Luffy losing haki and a foothold seems like fake news...

The end of the chapter, it's just Kaido saying:

"The result was as expected...you got your hands on a powerful weapon... and then got carried away, boy...!!

Humans never lose hope, that's their issue...

It's been a while since I've been this fired up... but I've made a mistake, I should have cut off your head and declared 'victory'.

Because people won't stop believing in you, right?"

If it isn't confirmed Luffy drained his haki he will be coming back next chapter prove Kaido wrong once more, when you hear that kind of smack talk you know it's definitely getting proven wrong, also doesn't this confirm Kaido really isn't human all the oni theories maybe coming true

 

[Blahmigooo]

Yes, just like Luffy in 1 arc grow from having no business competing with Rob Lucci to be able to beating him.

Law got jumped by Fuji and Doffy and was nerf that whole time afterwards

Law can literally go train anywhere. We see its a wasteland.

Like i said Law could of done anything we don't know.

Yes so?? Luffy got that much stronger in 1 arc by fighting strong opponent like Lucci who was initially stronger than him. Same as Katakuri fight. Ppl grew substantially stronger in fighting someone stronger than him. Did Law have such major opponent after getting his ass whopped by Doffy??

I could understand if Law fight strong opponent like Luffy in the timeline between WCI and start of Wano. Such that he could also grew in strength after getting ass whopped in Dressrosa. But he isn't he was just staying there waiting for Luffy. Nobody get that much stronger if they don't went hard training against stronger opponent. Law just chilling at Wano doesn't give him magic boost to be above Luffy that undergo major battle against fighting 1st comander lvl.


The difference is Luffy get major PU in 1 arc and complete his mission of defeating his opponent in the end while Law still get ass whopped in the end.

 

[Screws Loose242]

No, he won't. Oda is hellbent on shitting on Luffy. Even if Luffy regains consciousness and falls only in Onigaishima, he will climb to the top running around for 20 chapters. Oda doesn't want to finish wano soon.

Pluse luffy is really drain of strenght I guess kaido defeat my be a group thing