Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1016 Spoilers Discussion

[Zowo]

Funny, but reality Sanji can beat Zoro. He will won't admit this like Zoro can't admit on Sanji either.

Reality u mean ur fantasy

 

[Finalbeta]

But why this should hype Zoro?
I can agree this is a likely scenario, but why an already defeated Kaido who asks Zoro to finish him off should be a W for Zoro?

Well if you look around you many of us Zoro fans desired that things could be different. This is not exactly a given that they won't be different although it looks intrinsically quite unlikely.

We know that Luffy likely spelled "I got this" since in the first place the Grandmaster was unable to keep fighting. What would it happen had he returned remotely healthy? Would Luffy allow him to help? Would Zoro wish it?

Well, let's say probably not. Luffy would need to fail pretty bad for Zoro to eventually save his life at that stage. So again, it's a visibly less likely situation given the implications we are lately crossing to.

 

[Marimo_420]

Nan Post WCI was weaker than any YC1.

Luffy wasn’t peak high tier

And Luffy was stupid against Kaido first time and was begged.
Second time in base he managed to dodge partially Thunder Baga and kept fighting. And Luffy COO didn’t improve from first fight to rooftop.

So Luffy being insta begged by Kaido is not straight power level.

Pushing Kaido to Low diff and beating Queen extreme diff are around the same level.

How is Luffy weaker than any yc1 at Wano when he just beat a yc1 in the previous arc?

Rayan this is a new low, stop the cap please.

And no, pushing hybird Kaido past low diff isn't the same as extreme diffing Queen.

He's going to be using hybird and advanced CoC in a 1 v 1 with Yamato. Stop it.

If Yamato pushes him past low diff, she's a certified low top tier, something Sanji might attain at EoS.

 

[ErionRoronoa]

if you believe zoro has it and it believable if he say oden have coc too when he cut kaido its make no sense that zoro doesn't know advance COA and jump to having COC. Its no brainer

This isn't about me believe bruh hhhhh this is Kaido saying it. The man who set sail with Xebec, WB, BM, and fought Roger and Garp and Oden. He knows CoC more than he probably knows Yamato.

 

[Adam 🍎]

But thats what he does every time he is here he attacks everyone who says the slightest good thing about zoro.
So he ends up with lots of people after him he does it on purpose.

Yeah i know. Just ignore him lol
Meanwhile these guys feed him so hard the attention he obv craves

 

[ErionRoronoa]

Zoro exactly has CoC . Just he don't know how you use effectively righ now. He need to learn.

Yes, he will learn it for sure.

 

[kenedyfake]

why loda

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

lol you dont want it
but she will be kicked out of this fight like the others
what does she do
jack?
lol
seems like overkill to me

jack is still the goat tho

 

[nik87]

This one of rare times we talk, so I have no idea what you mean by that. Again have a Snickers. Your not you when your hungry .

This is the last year of ZKK being debunked because next year Oda will disappoint you.

 

[RayanOO]

How is luffy weaker than any yc1 when h beat a yc1 in the previous arc?

How can Luffy beat Kata without Brûlée ? Without merienda ? With Haki time limit ? And without TNJ ?
answer : he can’t

 

[ErionRoronoa]

Mihawk the worlds strongest pure swordsman doesn't know what Asura is?
Kaido was also wrong about Luffy not having advanced CoC in the same chapter...

When did Zoro use Asura in front of Mihawk? Did I miss something!!
Send me the link to that panel, please.

 

[Hahasanji]

Sanji

 

[Adam 🍎]

How can Luffy beat Kata without Brûlée ? Without merienda ? With Haki time limit ? And without TNJ ?
answer : he can’t

Bcs plot

 

[Finalbeta]

Gaban beat Oden who has COC. I don't see how he did that if he didn't have it. Could be unconfirmed like Garp is when we know for sure he has it. Bullet is like Shiki case where movie is non-canon on events, but not the characters.

CoC is not everything in a fight, I thought this was crystal clear.

Luffy himself was a CoC user on Marineford yet still standing as a fodder. However we don't have proof that there's a non CoC user around who can beat Current Luffy, although such scenario looks seemingly probable.

 

[DonkeyKong]

Do we really mature tho

I am tho but not that much

 

[RayanOO]

Bcs plot

Yeah obviously with Plot Luffu can do anything, but in a mirror world without plot Kata kills end of WCI luffy

 

[zzShinichi]

Sanji fans are weird bro, they fire shoots and always act like they are the victims when we retaliate

 

[Adam 🍎]

Yeah obviously with Plot Luffu can do anything, but in a mirror world without plot Kata kills end of WCI luffy

Without Plot Kata bodies Wano luffy too

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Far before that. The moment sanji said Zoro need to abandon his foolish dream in baratie. That's seal the deal, Zoro have CoC while sanji doesn't.

yes when he uses ashura it already confirms he had coc even before luffy.
when they realize Three Thousand Worlds also using coc which used against mihawk

he is the second character who used coc in entire series after shanks

 

[WesMidnight]

Heh you seem to stand quite behind in processing the arc. Did you catch up to the ZDK / ZKK paradigm my man.

Goalpost shifitng what ZKK means is lame, every non ZKKer was saying the only way Zoro would kill Zoro would be through execution, ZKKers didn't find this acceptable before 1010. You are now a ZEKer (Zoro executes Kaido).

But Zoro isn't killing or executing anyone, because Luffy would kill if he wanted to kill, because Kaido doesn't deserve a glorious death, because Yamato is still his daughter, because Zoro is a hero to Japanese children.

This is an arc 400 chapters in the making for Luffy to show to the world he is the top pirate king contender - having Big News morgan headline "Kaido defeated by Luffy", only to have page 6 news be "Zoro kills Kaido" is Stupid and Zoro isn't outshining Luffy on the world stage for this victory.