Questions & Mysteries Why People Deny the Fact That Helmeppo and Koby Will Be Rivals for Zoro and Luffy?

[U c 4 up da idly]

Sanji doesn't get one cause he is either too irrelevant or he dies before eos

 

[stealthblack]

That would make them stronger than Sanji.

You ok with that ?

 

[worst pirate]

Growth rates don’t exist. It’s not like characters have levels and exp bars. Oda will make them as strong as he needs to make them with the excuse “they trained with Garp for two years”

Oda still cares about his overall power level structure in One piece , they don’t just need an asspull but a miracle to be even comparable to both Zoro/Luffy , Coby was no diffed both the times he fought with Luffy( Water 7 / Marineford ) , and you expect me to believe that on top of this huge gap just by training with Garp is sufficient for Coby when Luffy himself trained with Rayleigh prior to their previous interaction.
As of now nothing indicates that they will be comparable at all , in future if any new information regarding their powerlevel is shown then one could backtrack but with showings until now Eos Luffy washes Coby and Helmeppo at the same time.

 

[Roo]

Because their role in the story is to help Luffy, not to fight him

unlike Kid who I can see Oda pitting against Luffy at some point, Koby will side with the Straw Hats against the WG and will never fight him

 

[LordVinsmoke]

so? He can be irrelevant compared to luffy and Zoro as we saw when he didn't get to the rooftop and didn't become a SN

Yet He’s Part of monster trio with Luffy and Zoro

 

[Peroroncino]

Yet He’s Part of monster trio with Luffy and Zoro

until he's replaced by jinbei or yamato but even if he is that still didn't make him relevant enough to be a supernova

 

[LordVinsmoke]

until he's replaced by jinbei or yamato but even if he is that still didn't make him relevant enough to be a supernova

Jinbe is facing a yc4 Sanji is fighting a yc2 relevant lmaoo Sanji getting more panel time then most of SNs Yamato depends onhow well she does against kaido

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

until he's replaced by jinbei or yamato but even if he is that still didn't make him relevant enough to be a supernova

There's still believers for this

 

[Peroroncino]

Jinbe is facing a yc4 Sanji is fighting a yc2 relevant lmaoo Sanji getting more panel time then most of SNs Yamato depends onhow well she does against kaido

jinbei is facing WsW because they have history who knows what oda will do with him once the arc is over.

 

[LordVinsmoke]

jinbei is facing WsW because they have history who knows what oda will do with him once the arc is over.

doesnt change that sanji is above jinbe

 

[Peroroncino]

doesnt change that sanji is above jinbe

nah jinbei lived his whole life in the same sea that's been giving sanji Ls non-stop.

 

[LordVinsmoke]

nah jinbei lived his whole life in the same sea that's been giving sanji Ls non-stop.

Doesn’t change the fact the jinbe is fighting a yc4

 

[Peroroncino]

Doesn’t change the fact the jinbe is fighting a yc4

if he is then WsW > Sanji

 

[LordVinsmoke]

if he is then WsW > Sanji

How is Whos.Who stronger then sanji

 

[Nel-Zel fiasco]

the problem with coby n hellmeppo is they lack of screen time so we dont know how much character developent they got n power up they have ....
maybe they will show up in final war as luffy support if oda remember them ....

 

[Finalbeta]

How is Whos.Who stronger then sanji

He probably believes that WsW doesn't stand on YC4 level.

 

[zzShinichi]

Who's Koby?

 

[sneko]

eos Zoro and eos Luffy stand above everyone else. they'd be glad they can kill their boredom at eos

 

[Peroroncino]

How is Whos.Who stronger then sanji

Same way vergo is

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

unfortunately helmeppo and coby will have to grow unrealistically for them to be competent enough to match either zoro or luffy
epilogue perhaps
but I dont see coby and helmeppo replacing the current admirals anytime soon.
for reference helmeppo is a chief petty officer
and coby is a captain
not even a rear admiral at this point in this story in parallel to luffy taking on kaido .
unless there is a timeskip coming soon
a couple months to the end of the story
that is unrealistic.


it is interesting just the two of them have marine" rivals" tho
we know who the marines take seriously in the near future.