Powers & Abilities If King does not have coc why he will fight against Zoro?
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Everyone is allowed to have a different opinion. I specifically quoted you for saying that Zoro isnt important in stopping Kaido which, if Oda is really going for ZKK, couldnt be further from the truth. Zoro fought him once, I dont see why he cant fight him again...
Luffy got his chance, 3 times so far(922, 1001-1010, 1010+). Yamato is up there fighting Kaido but Zoro shouldnt be?
It is very important to understand that Kaido is nobody's 1vs1 fight. The fight stopped being 1vs1 when Scabbards jumped on him...
I know that several people are against Zoro fighting King but they keep underestimating that Oda's hands are free to do anything he wants. If Oda wants, Zoro will beat King, contribute in beating Big Mom and still fight and kill Kaido.
People may think it's impossible but Zoro collapsed from exhaustion with broken bones and coming back up in less than 10 chapters, lol.
Luffy got his chance, 3 times so far(922, 1001-1010, 1010+). Yamato is up there fighting Kaido but Zoro shouldnt be?
It is very important to understand that Kaido is nobody's 1vs1 fight. The fight stopped being 1vs1 when Scabbards jumped on him...
I know that several people are against Zoro fighting King but they keep underestimating that Oda's hands are free to do anything he wants. If Oda wants, Zoro will beat King, contribute in beating Big Mom and still fight and kill Kaido.
People may think it's impossible but Zoro collapsed from exhaustion with broken bones and coming back up in less than 10 chapters, lol.
Who said nobody has a right to their opinion? I've been repeatedly shat on for mine lol, same difference. I'm just question others opinions on things that don't seem to exist right now.
Let me quote a line of a point you just made:
"Yamato is up there fighting Kaido but Zoro shouldnt be?
This is exactly what I don't get. The manga has specifically stated this:
Zoro literally has nothing to do with this lol. Yamato is up there there specifically hold off Kaido and lose until Luffy gets back. So while you have a right to your opinion, I seriously question "why" that is your opinion?
It's like saying the earth is flat when there is evidence out there to suggest the opposite is true. Why are people denying facts that are given to them? Like its not even the only example:
Then the argument gets thrown out there that since Luffy lost, this statement gets nullified, yet...:
Like none of this literally has anything to do with Zoro lol.
Why is it being construed as anything but what we are seeing?
Let me quote a line of a point you just made:
"Yamato is up there fighting Kaido but Zoro shouldnt be?
This is exactly what I don't get. The manga has specifically stated this:
Zoro literally has nothing to do with this lol. Yamato is up there there specifically hold off Kaido and lose until Luffy gets back. So while you have a right to your opinion, I seriously question "why" that is your opinion?
It's like saying the earth is flat when there is evidence out there to suggest the opposite is true. Why are people denying facts that are given to them? Like its not even the only example:
Then the argument gets thrown out there that since Luffy lost, this statement gets nullified, yet...:
Like none of this literally has anything to do with Zoro lol.
Why is it being construed as anything but what we are seeing?
Who said nobody has a right to their opinion? I've been repeatedly shat on for mine lol, same difference. I'm just question others opinions on things that don't seem to exist right now.
Let me quote a line of a point you just made:
"Yamato is up there fighting Kaido but Zoro shouldnt be?
This is exactly what I don't get. The manga has specifically stated this:
Zoro literally has nothing to do with this lol. Yamato is up there there specifically hold off Kaido and lose until Luffy gets back. So while you have a right to your opinion, I seriously question "why" that is your opinion?
It's like saying the earth is flat when there is evidence out there to suggest the opposite is true. Why are people denying facts that are given to them? Like its not even the only example:
Then the argument gets thrown out there that since Luffy lost, this statement gets nullified, yet...:
Like none of this literally has anything to do with Zoro lol.
Why is it being construed as anything but what we are seeing?
Let me quote a line of a point you just made:
"Yamato is up there fighting Kaido but Zoro shouldnt be?
This is exactly what I don't get. The manga has specifically stated this:
Zoro literally has nothing to do with this lol. Yamato is up there there specifically hold off Kaido and lose until Luffy gets back. So while you have a right to your opinion, I seriously question "why" that is your opinion?
It's like saying the earth is flat when there is evidence out there to suggest the opposite is true. Why are people denying facts that are given to them? Like its not even the only example:
Then the argument gets thrown out there that since Luffy lost, this statement gets nullified, yet...:
Like none of this literally has anything to do with Zoro lol.
Why is it being construed as anything but what we are seeing?
Why do you cling to one single statement that gets nullified any chapter Oda wants to do so?
I have answered many times why that is my opinion - because Zoro is the only one who can put a stop to Kaido.
Is it that hard to believe it?
Bruh, as I said, I have nothing against ZKK. My question is against those who believe Zoro's next fight HAS to be with Kaido.
Read the thread topic, I initially wasn't even discussing this with you. It was about whether or not Zoro will fight King. You can believe in whatever you want to believe in.
The line I quoted from you suggests that you expect Zoro to go back and fully fight Kaido and not King like I thought you were saying you agreed with before. That's what I'm talking about:
ZKK and Zoro vs Kaido are 2 totally different things
Read the thread topic, I initially wasn't even discussing this with you. It was about whether or not Zoro will fight King. You can believe in whatever you want to believe in.
The line I quoted from you suggests that you expect Zoro to go back and fully fight Kaido and not King like I thought you were saying you agreed with before. That's what I'm talking about:
ZKK and Zoro vs Kaido are 2 totally different things
Because one implies Zoro delivers a finishing blow, the other implies a full blown fight again. The former is not disproven, the latter effectively is. You yourself are supporting Zoro vs King to an extent, that would effectively mean Zoro vs Kaido (as a full blown battle) probably isn't happening considering the examples I've given you about Luffy defeating Kaido.
Remember Defeating is not Killing. I don't care about the killing part. It either happens or it doesn't. The defeating part is 100% going to be Luffy though, the story has suggested it only a hundred times already
Remember Defeating is not Killing. I don't care about the killing part. It either happens or it doesn't. The defeating part is 100% going to be Luffy though, the story has suggested it only a hundred times already
Why is the latter disproven? Why cant both happen?
I do support it. The more Zoro fights in this arc, the better for me, throw someone else on top of King and I'll take them too.
Zoro vs King isnt really affecting Zoro vs Kaido just like Zoro vs Kaido+BM didnt stop anything that Zoro will do from this point onward.
What is defeat? Knocking him down/out for a couple of minutes and getting killed by that guy 5 minutes later when he stands up?
And story has also suggested it plenty of times that Zoro will be part of defeating Kaido, which he literally is, on top of killing him...
I do support it. The more Zoro fights in this arc, the better for me, throw someone else on top of King and I'll take them too.
Zoro vs King isnt really affecting Zoro vs Kaido just like Zoro vs Kaido+BM didnt stop anything that Zoro will do from this point onward.
What is defeat? Knocking him down/out for a couple of minutes and getting killed by that guy 5 minutes later when he stands up?
And story has also suggested it plenty of times that Zoro will be part of defeating Kaido, which he literally is, on top of killing him...
Why are you getting upset, lol?
Is it because I told you that Oda literally can do anything he wants by saying that Zoro vs Kaido+BM didnt stop him from doing anything?
Bigger picture is what you always should keep in mind, instead of jumping left and right on weekly basis.
Unless, ofc, the latest development is what YOU prefer instead of Zoro vs Kaido? :yasu:
Is it because I told you that Oda literally can do anything he wants by saying that Zoro vs Kaido+BM didnt stop him from doing anything?
Bigger picture is what you always should keep in mind, instead of jumping left and right on weekly basis.
Unless, ofc, the latest development is what YOU prefer instead of Zoro vs Kaido? :yasu:
King is the 2nd in command so Zoro has to fight him, that's all. Marco can stall Kaido if this is the need of the story.
People keep saying King has to know adv. CoC so that Zoro can learn it too in their fight. That's like saying mr.1 should have the breath of all things just so Zoro could learn it too. That was not the case, Zoro just needed to learn it to defeat mr.1
People keep saying King has to know adv. CoC so that Zoro can learn it too in their fight. That's like saying mr.1 should have the breath of all things just so Zoro could learn it too. That was not the case, Zoro just needed to learn it to defeat mr.1