Zoro's position in the Strawhat crew


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goddamn you're even more delusional than that PanD. A. Man moe guy. you can always live deep in headcanon and call it thinking a couple of steps ahead. oda ain't gonna give sanji another character arc of searching for the "history of germa and judge" lol especially with him wanting to wrap up one piece in another 5-6 years max
Wtf are you talking about :kobeha:

Oda literally will not let Sanji forget about Germa and makes sure his past follows him wherever he goes.

Look at Sanji's Wanter Poster.

Count how many time characters have yelled Germa at him in Wano.

Look at his current opponent.

Look at the set up with MADS going forward so that even Vegapunk leads into more Judge/Germa history.

The Germa past will absolutely get resolved when the time comes, and it absolutely does not require a special separate arc for it to happen.

You're either new to One Piece or somehow did not learn anything from your time reading this manga if you think that's something Oda's just going to disgard and not follow up on later on :milaugh:
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Still interested as to why Oda skipped over a Vs title for Franky. Whether it comes later or not is interesting because it would have been perfect last chapter, as it was a majority revolving on that fight. Maybe Oda doesn't count General Franky as Franky? I know how dumb that sounds but it's weird

Even Brook here doesn't have anything. Nami and Usopp technically too. Interested to see how Vs Chapters go the next 4-5 chapters, if they exist.
expectation: sanji vs queen, kidd & law vs big mom.
reality: apoo vs drake, killer vs hawkins, neko vs perospero, inu vs jack, raizo vs fukurokuju with flashback portions
 
Still interested as to why Oda skipped over a Vs title for Franky. Whether it comes later or not is interesting because it would have been perfect last chapter, as it was a majority revolving on that fight. Maybe Oda doesn't count General Franky as Franky? I know how dumb that sounds but it's weird

Even Brook here doesn't have anything. Nami and Usopp technically too. Interested to see how Vs Chapters go the next 4-5 chapters, if they exist.
Franky will get his actual VS battle against Babanuki.
They were always fated to fight.
 
I find it interesting that people dont ever bring up Kidd vs Big Mom. Not just in this server but on youtube or whatever. Not many people seem to care about Big Mom and Kidd.
When kid pulled up on big mom people were begging for him to get off screened because they want to see him fail.

doesnt help that people also are fans of other characters and don’t want to see kid outshining them so in turn they shit on him whenever they get
 
SHs just became stronger, or Beast Pirate's F6 are joke?

And if we compare BigMom and Kaido's crew, who would win?

Katakuri >= King
Queen's fight? Smoothie, Oven, or Daifuku?
Jack's fight?

I am pointing to the WCI. What if whole crew went there, they could easily beat commanders. Only problem was BigMom (hunger pang and cake poisoning would have done the trick).
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Oda literally will not let Sanji forget about Germa and makes sure his past follows him wherever he goes.

Look at Sanji's Wanter Poster.

Count how many time characters have yelled Germa at him in Wano.
are you seriously using those two gag scenes to justify your headcanon? at this point sanji and germa is treated like usopp's lies.

Look at the set up with MADS going forward so that even Vegapunk leads into more Judge/Germa history.

The Germa past will absolutely get resolved when the time comes, and it absolutely does not require a special separate arc for it to happen.
yeah vegapunk probably is just gonna tell him about the other evil stuff judge has did. that doesn't mean he's gonna be the next kurapika or sasuke going around to avenge his clan lmao stop the cap. he probably will adopt his name and that's the maximum that you're gonna get outta this. he isnt gonna magically get CoC cos he's the last vinsmoke and he's gonna carry on the vinsmoke legacy lmaooo
 
are you seriously using those two gag scenes to justify your headcanon? at this point sanji and germa is treated like usopp's lies.


yeah vegapunk probably is just gonna tell him about the other evil stuff judge has did. that doesn't mean he's gonna be the next kurapika or sasuke going around to avenge his clan lmao stop the cap. he probably will adopt his name and that's the maximum that you're gonna get outta this. he isnt gonna magically get CoC cos he's the last vinsmoke and he's gonna carry on the vinsmoke legacy lmaooo
Watch it happen and then rethink your limited perspective :kata:
 
Zoro has no statement that props him as a important element for Luffy to reach the PK’s title. Zoro has accolades about his own strength but never about how he is essential for Luffy to reach his dream. Which has been said clearly for Sanji.

What I want is irrelevant. Fact is Robin did say that. And no other crewmate ever say that for Zoro or anyone else.
What Zoro did regarding Usopp post-EL was important lesson for leadership and no other crewmate has confronted Luffy in that manner.

Constantly keeping Luffy in-check, reminding him what's important (Right after Usopp fight, EL, PH, etc) is something only Zoro does.

Oda deliberately chose to make Zoro take all of Sanji's pain in TB rather than have Sanji and Zoro share it.

Oda deliberately chose to make Zoro constantly support Luffy on the roof-top while leaving Sanji out of it.

There are many more examples. Sanji got those statements, meanwhile Zoro has many actions related to looking after Luffy and keeping him on track which others simply don't have.

I'm not saying one portrayal is better than other, but you stupidly claiming Sanji is more important to Luffy's dream because he's called wings? Or because Luffy said he can't become PK without him? You think Luffy wouldn't say the same to, say, Nami or something? C'mon. Of course he hasn't said that to Zoro, either... why in the world would he? Zoro has been unwavering and on his side since day 1; Luffy doesn't have to say that to Zoro.

On another note, Oda himself called Zoro one of Luffy's wings, as well, in SBS. So there's that?

Luffy said he can't become Pirate King without Sanji. Luffy also said he can't do everything and would not make it without his Nakama in general many times before.

Idk the fuck you're trying to compare at, man. Sanji gets shine and portrayal of his importance to Luffy in his own special way. So does Zoro, so does Nami.

They're not supposed to be portrayed in an identical manner in identical statements and light because they're different, yet just as important to Luffy. So why are you asking me "well, they said this thing about Sanji but not for Zoro! So Sanji more important?!"

Learn to read the story, dude. Quit trying to shoehorn other characters into a narrative made for a separate character.

All Nakama are important for Luffy's dreams and in this or WCI scene Sanji is absolutely not given importance over other crewmmates in that regards. He's given importance. Not comparative importance.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
the most iconic and forshadowing heavy scene in one piece ever - "a man's dream never dies" had the top 3 strawhats in it against blackbeard. that alone shows the strawhats who are the most important - luffy the captain, zoro the right hand man, nami (who's gonna get extreme importance as they journey towards laughtale as the person who's associated with navigation & treasure. only these three strawhats featured on the ch 1000 cover as well.
 
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