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Thanks for the translation. Can you possibly tell me why ryuu is grouped with dots on the side instead of kanji or the thing where they usually make the second hiragana smaller? I don't know enough Japanese to even know what to search up to understand that writing convention.
First of all, the dots are just to make the readers notice the word, it's like when we use this or this. The reason to why he says Ryuu in hiragana instead of Kanji is most likely because he is a child and he still don't use Kanji for that word, this happens a lot with childs talking in mangas or LNs, etc. They don't use Kanji for strange or difficult(?) words. It doesn't really have any importance but it's there to notice.
 
Gonna be honest.

The beast pirates are kinda ass outside of Kaido.

gifters suck
headliners suck
the f6 suck
Jack sucks
Queen does not suck yet (but I have no hope)
King does not suck yet (but I also have no hope)

:josad:
But are the BM pirates any better though?

remember the whole Opera-Mont D’or fiasco? Cracker gets beaten because tgey make fun of him. Smoothie is bybfar the biggest waste of space in the entire series. Katakuri is fine.

Perospero wants to fuck around taunting the vinsmokes wasting time and thats why they escaped

oven gets punked all over Totland

Daifuku gets clowned on by carrot
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Anyway Sasaki/WW/Ulti/Black Maria are on the same tier with P1 just slightly below.
bruh that is literally a fact. they are not all equal in strength tho if thats what you are insinuating. there is obviously a inner hierarchy within the F6.
that's like saying daifuku and perospero and snack are on the same level. its not like that bro. there is an inherent ranking in the F6, when who's who and sasaki were relieved that drake isnt gunning for a calamity position. they didnt even consider page one competition. heck you can argue that black maria didnt even try to find yamato since she knew that she isnt strong enough to take yamato on.
 
Lueen Ling and Lack have yet to use haki :gokulaugh:
meanwhile fodders on bmp all using it
Oda is a fraud, he's going back into the pre timeskip invisible haki like marineford
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bruh that is literally a fact. they are not all equal in strength tho if thats what you are insinuating. there is obviously a inner hierarchy within the F6.
You are using the BMP as a base for your argument which is wrong in itself. Different crews different hierarchy.
 
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Here what I mean:


Look at the hands around the black body, they are white, you can clearly see no hardening.

Then Robin covered them with haki too:

She covered them with hardening and broke down BM. She don't need hardening for her fist since she didn't use them, she crack up with her body power, because that she only covered up her hands and legs. That is for sure hardening.

It similar as what Oda draw with Don Chinjao hardening on his head:

But they are black in the first image lol. Her arms stretching are just not that detailed, but there still is black on it.

And the Chinjao thing is what I mean. Haki is way shinier. You can see this because of the way Oda draws a bunch of white in betwen the black. Robin's just looks like dark shading. There are parts of her that are not black at all. Nothing about her appearance is shiny as well.

I'm sorry, lets just agree to disagree here.
 
Just saying, but we can't even be sure him or Sasaki are down yet. They didn't receive proper transitions from their fights. Robin did and its clear she won. These 2 currently did not and if you go back and look, their fights end still with Jinbe and Franky angry/battle ready.

Idk, its just not clear yet.
Why is it not clear that they lost though:
With regards to Who's Who
- Jinbe used a technique we've never seen before
- The fight even had a chapter titled after it
- Who's Who has shown is hybrid form

With regards to Sasaki
- The fight had a chapter titled after it
- Sasaki has shown is hybrid form and used his unique sword
- Franky has used all of his strongest known attacks General Canon and even his lazer beam
- It was established that Sasaki's weak point is his belly, seen Franky successfully hurt him and then Franky successfully hit him on his belly with his strongest attack with Sasaki passed out before we transitioned to the next fight
- Sasaki even tried a suicide attack on Franky lol
- Hell General Franky was wrecked due to that fight

It is pretty obvious that Oda is going through each of these fights one by one. It makes zero sense for him to go back to those fights.

Could Who's Who potentially make an appearance again towards the end of this arc? Maybe, given his ex Cp9 and Cp0 are after him but as far as him being an antagonist to the SHs and the alliance goes, he's done imo and it's pretty obvious

One question, from a story telling perspective, what merit is there to bringing back Who's Who and Sasaki for you and those who still feel they are not done yet?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Same was with other fights then, good luck figuring out the number of attacks they ate off screen.
not with the jinbe one. it was clearly shown he was occupied with beating who's who's underlings until the tama support came it. which is exactly when we see who's who tiny blade and him use his rokushiki techniques. if they were fighting before why didnt jinbe comment on wsw's rokushiki before lol?

that fight started right after tama's support came in and freed jinbe from the peanut gallery.
 
not with the jinbe one. it was clearly shown he was occupied with beating who's who's underlings until the tama support came it. which is exactly when we see who's who tiny blade and him use his rokushiki techniques. if they were fighting before why didnt jinbe comment on wsw's rokushiki before lol?

that fight started right after tama's support came in and freed jinbe from the peanut gallery.
Franky was occupied with Sasaki's army too. Brook and Robin with Black Maria and her army also.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Franky was occupied with Sasaki's army too. Brook and Robin with Black Maria and her army also.
1. the armored corps were already softened up by yamato. who's who's underlings werent.
2. franky recieved support waaay before jinbe when tama, nami and usopp pulled up with some gifters. even in that chapter we see sasaki and franky fighting.
3. my entire point is jinbe didnt hit who's who before the order was given on the live floor. so jinbe technically put wsw down in just one proper move.
 
Katakana or hiragana with those dots is saying with extreme emphasis. Like speaking with stressed syllables.
First of all, the dots are just to make the readers notice the word, it's like when we use this or this. The reason to why he says Ryuu in hiragana instead of Kanji is most likely because he is a child and he still don't use Kanji for that word, this happens a lot with childs talking in mangas or LNs, etc. They don't use Kanji for strange or difficult(?) words. It doesn't really have any importance but it's there to notice.

Thanks for the lesson. :smoothy:
 
Why is it not clear that they lost though:
With regards to Who's Who
- Jinbe used a technique we've never seen before
- The fight even had a chapter titled after it
- Who's Who has shown is hybrid form

With regards to Sasaki
- The fight even had a chapter titled after it
- Sasaki has shown is hybrid form and used his unique sword
- Franky has used all of his strongest known attacks General Canon and even his lazer beam
- It was established that Sasaki's weak point is his belly, seen Franky successfully hurt and then Franky successfully hit him on his belly with his strongest attack with Sasaki passed out before we transitioned to the next fight
- Sasaki even tried a suicide attack on Franky lol
- Hell General Franky was wrecked due to that fight

It is pretty obvious that Oda is going through each of these fights one by one. It makes zero sense for him to go back to those fights.

Could Who's Who potentially make an appearance again towards the end of this arc, maybe given his ex Cp9 and Cp0 are after him but as far as him being an antagonist to the SHs and the alliance goes, he's done imo and it's pretty obvious

One question, from a story telling perspective, what merit is there to bringing back Who's Who and Sasaki for you and those who still they are not done yet?
The key to what I'm talking about are the scene transitions from the fights and the state of both Jinbe and Franky vs Robin.

No disrespect, I'm tired of repeating myself, so here:


OK, so now I can try and make my point a little clearer:








These 3 scenes are why I can 100% acknowledge Black Maria's fight is over, but cannot do the same for Sasaki and WsW. IF 1022 has CP-0 acknowledge all of their defeats, then for sure it won't matter, but those 2 did not receive acknowledgements of defeat as we see here AFTER Robin used her final move. My point is, we don't see anything that constitutes the end of a fight here:



or here:




In fact, both Jinbe and Franky still look combat ready/angry/serious. Hopefully what I'm saying makes a little bit more sense. Yes, these do look like finishers for sure, but there is a serious lack of definitive closure on the fights. A big example of something like this is Chapter 405:



You'd think, in the context of only knowing anything up to this chapter, that this would have been the end to their fight. However, Oda goes beyond this and continues their fight for another chapter and several pages:




Once again, if 1022 or some closely relevant chapter in the future acknowledges Sasaki and Who's Who's defeats together with the others (via CP-0 most likely), then I will take my L happily. Before then though, I fundamentally can't because those fights did not end like most other fights do. Not yet at least.
Your petty ass insults are ridiculous. Nobody is even talking to you lol.

It's weird how you can't see the clear difference in transitions between WsW and Sasaki's fights when compared to Black Maria.

Let's list them out shall we?

- Black Maria's subordinates actually acknowledged her defeat. Sasaki and WsW's subordinates were not shown reacting to their defeats, even though they are right there. We do get a subordinates screaming WsW's name, but nothing indicated of a win.

- Black Maria is laying unconscious on the floor. We see it according to the spoiler. It's extremely clear. We do NOT see this for Sasaki and WsW.

- There are no abrupt transitions for Black Maria. She is defeated, then is given 1-2 additional pages of people acknowledging her defeat, Brook helping Robin, and the Mary's recording the fight. The last things you see from Sasaki and WsW's fights are closeups of Jinbe and Franky's faces, still very much serious and very much in battle mode.

- Robin received a plethora of new attacks. Franky and Jinbe have not.

- Robin's fight is essentially 4 pages from 1005, 13 pages from 1020, and now assumedly 14-15 pages from 1021. That's 30+ pages of fighting, and only like 4-5 of those pages are Brook alone. Jinbe has received no more than 17 pages total (5 from 1017, 12 from 1018). Franky received no more than 18 (~5 from 1004, 13 from 1019).

The content for Robin's fight thus far is clearly higher and feels more complete. This is a pure observation. I'm literally telling you I believe Black Maria is down because like every other fight in the series, it ended normally and complete. What I'm also stating is that I don't believe it's the same for Sasaki and WsW. They are literally the only 2 fights after a 1000 chapters that have ended with abrupt transitions.
Oda has flipped back and forth between battles before. The Rooftop fight was exactly that. Much of Ulti fighting Usopp/Nami was scattered over 20 chapters. Franky fought Sasaki for 5 pages in 1004. Named chapters after fights don't really have a pattern either. Franky never got a "Vs" chapter. Jinbe did and did his alleged "final" attack on his. Robin also did and barely even began fighting on hers.
 
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