I didn't even understand what you were trying to say tbh.
Of course, Luffy didn't know about Adv CoC before, he learned it mid-battle. Whereas Zoro didn't even know what Kaido was talking about when he said that he used CoC. He can't use it consciously right now. No black lightning from his weapon like Luffy, Kaido, BM, WB and Roger. There's a pattern.