Who will be the next Strawhat


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While everyone is out here simping for yamato, I feel like people are missing a really obvious candidate for straw hat, that being momonosuke.

Yamato is a 1 note character who was revealed at the end of wano with little to no development and a really annoying gag. There is barely anything she can offer the crew, but people simp for her because she's strong and is a woman(at least biologically).

Momo on the other hand has been with the straw hats since practically the entire post skip, has got mountains of development, and has a serious purpose on the straw hat crew. Momo isn't pretending to be Oden, he's the real deal, with him supposedly looking exactly like him. He is a kozuki, he has the voice of all things, he has some strange connection with zunisha that is so far unexplored, and he's been mentored by the straw hats ever since punk hazard.

Between the two of them, who would actually be better to fulfill Oden's will? Momonosuke or dollar store oden. I think the answer is pretty clear. Since onigashima began, we've been introduced to this plot point of yamato becoming the shogun, something yamato absolutely doesn't want to do. However, yamato has also been set up as Momonosuke's retainer, his equivalent to the scabbards. And as we know, when oden went off with whitebeard and roger, the scabbards ran kuri.

So, if Momonosuke were to follow in his father's footsteps, yamato would run wano for the time being. She'd probably do so alongside Hiyori. This doesn't mean she can't still have her dream of leaving wano. After this arc, wano kuni will open up and the people of wano will have to create diplomatic ties to other nations. Yamato could go to dressrosa and other kingdoms on diplomatic missions. But she won't come with Luffy. As many have pointed out, Yamato spelled backwards is O-Tamay. Her parallel to O-Tama isn't just a fan creation, its something we've seen directly in the manga in chapter 999. Both of them have connections to Ace, and both of them want to leave wano with Luffy. We can almost be assured O-Tama isn't joining the crew, but for some reason people still hold out hope for yamato.

I think its also worth noting that her mythical zoan is the guardian diety of wano and that as such it makes the most sense for her to stay and protect wano.

But as for momonosuke, imo the parallels between him and Oden are simply too strong for him to just ignore his destiny and sit in wano until the EoS. Oden is dead and his journal speaks about the magical adventure he had with roger, which ultimately culminated with him finding the one piece. It just doesn't make sense to me why Momo wouldn't go that final mile to see what was so special about one piece. Now he's more than strong enough, as his dragon is nearly as big as kaido's. Finally, his role on the crew. Unlike Yamato, he has a clear, tangible role on the crew. He would be Luffy/Zoro's apprentice. We had Buggy and Shanks on the Roger crew, Marco and Blackbeard on the Whitebeard crew, Kaido on the Rocks crew. If all of these crews had apprentices on them, shouldn't Luffy also have an apprentice? Wouldn't Momonosuke be best suited for that role?
 
Agreed. I was wondering at what point Oda would finally make her realise. This is a solid justification for her to drop the delusion. The kid she's been protecting throughout the whole arc has now (from a visual perspective at least) quite literally become Oden. It allows her to drop the act, and would likely make her want to help Momo even more to see what he will accomplish and aid him through that.
"The kid she's been protecting throughout the whole arc"> that statement is a real stretch. Yamato only protected Momo temporarily from Sasaki when shinobu was about to go down, then she abandoned the both of them. Kinemon died protecting Momo from Kaido and Shinobu almost died too.

Also how does Momo turning into a dragon visually literally makes him into Oden? Are you sure you're not confusing Oden with Kaido?
 

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"The kid she's been protecting throughout the whole arc"> that statement is a real stretch. Yamato only protected Momo temporarily from Sasaki when shinobu was about to go down, then she abandoned the both of them. Kinemon died protecting Momo from Kaido and Shinobu almost died too.

Also how does Momo turning into a dragon visually literally makes him into Oden? Are you sure you're not confusing Oden with Kaido?
The chinese dragon is supposed to be a symbol of strength and protection but Kaido does nothing but harm. Oden failed to protect Wano because he tried to shoulder the burden alone.

Momonosuke is a dragon mirroring Kaido. Yamato tries to mirror Oden. Both of them are 28 years old.
 
I'm seeing people putting momo as the next nakama, and personally i think it not only has zero chances of happening, it's also the worst idea- no offense, for a number of reasons:

1. One of the main lessons the arc and backstory told us was that Wano needs its rightful leader. Sukiyaki was sick, and it was Oden's responsibility to take his place. Sukiyaki passed away, losing the former leader. Oden was away, missing the rightful leader, and the throne was taken by Orochi, the false leader. The Scarabs are so hellbent on beating Kaido and Orochi not just because they want to kick them out, but to also restore and clear Oden's name, restore his honour and also restoring his legacy. Momo is that legacy, he is Oden's son. Momo is the reason the samurai of Wano were willing to rebel in the first place, Momo is the reason the scarabs laid down their lives to serve and protect.

For Momo to be the reason why others died sacrificing their lives for, the reason why the people of Wano still had hope in winning the war and the country's future, the reason why the samurai of Wano endured for 20 years - for momo to just abandon them and leave them behind to join the crew- it spits in the face of everyone who placed their hopes on him. Momo have already shown to be mostly useless and a crybaby, the least the could do as Oden's son is become the Shogun and lead Wano to a better future. No good king in One Piece have ever abandoned their kingdom. The last King who did that was a guy called Wapol and we all know what kind of person he is.

I can't believe people are willing to go as far as to destroy Momo's character and writing just for the sake of keeping Yamato from joining the crew. Unbelievable.

2. I honestly fail to see why Momo would even join the crew in the first place and what that would even bring. He was already on Whitebeard and Roger's crew before, the kid's already seen and done more than most if not all kids his age already, and could brag more than anybody already in the crew bar the M3. There is little to no personal incentive for Momo to work hard for the crew and Luffy that would come with any real payoff for someone like him.

Oda's already done a great job of hyping a useless little kid into something extraordinary, well beyond what that kid is capable of or deserves-going so far as to even turning him into a adult just so his dragon form is big enough to go up against kaido, and now Oda is doing his best to make up for it and fulfil the hype and expectations that he himself created for Momo in the first place. Now people want him to become a straw hat, where expectations are naturally even higher, and still expect him to perform above and beyond when he's already struggling this much to begin with??

Momo would be lucky to be as great as Vivi by the end of this arc, the expectations of him as a straw hat would have to be even greater and there is no way i see Momo ever reaching those kind of expectations.

3. Momo has said repeatedly that he will be the Shogun of Wano, and its something clearly shown to not just be because he's Oden's son and that's the way he is, but because he himself genuinely believes in it, as he said it to Luffy the first time in Dressrosa, as he said it to Kaido before he thought he was about to die. Its clearly something that Momo genuinely and truly believes in. Those are words not to be taken lightly. It would take a hell of a good reason for him to do a 180 and change his mind this late into the arc.

No offense, but Momo would be a worse Nakama candidate than even Carrot, which i didn't think was possible before i considered it.
 
I like neko character but i hope it fight got interrupted or that he is so blind with rage that he will lose the control of his sulong. (just posting this right here if that does happen even though is unlikely)
 

Uncle Van

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I'm seeing people putting momo as the next nakama, and personally i think it not only has zero chances of happening, it's also the worst idea- no offense, for a number of reasons:

1. One of the main lessons the arc and backstory told us was that Wano needs its rightful leader. Sukiyaki was sick, and it was Oden's responsibility to take his place. Sukiyaki passed away, losing the former leader. Oden was away, missing the rightful leader, and the throne was taken by Orochi, the false leader. The Scarabs are so hellbent on beating Kaido and Orochi not just because they want to kick them out, but to also restore and clear Oden's name, restore his honour and also restoring his legacy. Momo is that legacy, he is Oden's son. Momo is the reason the samurai of Wano were willing to rebel in the first place, Momo is the reason the scarabs laid down their lives to serve and protect.

For Momo to be the reason why others died sacrificing their lives for, the reason why the people of Wano still had hope in winning the war and the country's future, the reason why the samurai of Wano endured for 20 years - for momo to just abandon them and leave them behind to join the crew- it spits in the face of everyone who placed their hopes on him. Momo have already shown to be mostly useless and a crybaby, the least the could do as Oden's son is become the Shogun and lead Wano to a better future. No good king in One Piece have ever abandoned their kingdom. The last King who did that was a guy called Wapol and we all know what kind of person he is.

I can't believe people are willing to go as far as to destroy Momo's character and writing just for the sake of keeping Yamato from joining the crew. Unbelievable.

2. I honestly fail to see why Momo would even join the crew in the first place and what that would even bring. He was already on Whitebeard and Roger's crew before, the kid's already seen and done more than most if not all kids his age already, and could brag more than anybody already in the crew bar the M3. There is little to no personal incentive for Momo to work hard for the crew and Luffy that would come with any real payoff for someone like him.

Oda's already done a great job of hyping a useless little kid into something extraordinary, well beyond what that kid is capable of or deserves-going so far as to even turning him into a adult just so his dragon form is big enough to go up against kaido, and now Oda is doing his best to make up for it and fulfil the hype and expectations that he himself created for Momo in the first place. Now people want him to become a straw hat, where expectations are naturally even higher, and still expect him to perform above and beyond when he's already struggling this much to begin with??

Momo would be lucky to be as great as Vivi by the end of this arc, the expectations of him as a straw hat would have to be even greater and there is no way i see Momo ever reaching those kind of expectations.

3. Momo has said repeatedly that he will be the Shogun of Wano, and its something clearly shown to not just be because he's Oden's son and that's the way he is, but because he himself genuinely believes in it, as he said it to Luffy the first time in Dressrosa, as he said it to Kaido before he thought he was about to die. Its clearly something that Momo genuinely and truly believes in. Those are words not to be taken lightly. It would take a hell of a good reason for him to do a 180 and change his mind this late into the arc.

No offense, but Momo would be a worse Nakama candidate than even Carrot, which i didn't think was possible before i considered it.
It crazy how Momo and Yamato are opposites in both in manga and in real life. Momo who's bound to be the Shogun? People claim he will leave Wano. Yamato who said she wants to leave Wano? People say she will stay as Wano's guardian.
 
I think its also worth noting that her mythical zoan is the guardian diety of wano and that as such it makes the most sense for her to stay and protect wano.
this non-sense again? Yamato wasn’t intentionally eating the DF, and hinting from Kaido’s explanation, the DF was supposed to be someone else. If someone’s role / chance of joining is based on DF, then Robin should be botanist since her DF is Hana Hana and Brook should be a necromancer since his DF is Yomi Yomi.
 
this non-sense again? Yamato wasn’t intentionally eating the DF, and hinting from Kaido’s explanation, the DF was supposed to be someone else. If someone’s role / chance of joining is based on DF, then Robin should be botanist since her DF is Hana Hana and Brook should be a necromancer since his DF is Yomi Yomi.
But Robin's powers have nothing to do with actual plants and Brook literally cannot practice necromancy
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Yamato has a zoan that is the guardian of wano

so it would make more sense if she just stayed in wano
 

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But Robin's powers have nothing to do with actual plants and Brook literally cannot practice necromancy
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Yamato has a zoan that is the guardian of wano

so it would make more sense if she just stayed in wano
You mainly have to explain why Yamato would have a 180 change of heart at this point in time. She knows her fruit is the guardian of Wano, she wants to be Oden, she wants Wano to be free of Kaido, believes Luffy will beat Kaido and she said Momo must live and be Shogun. Despite all of that, she still declared that she wants to leave Wano with Luffy.

What could occur to make her change her mind?
 
Momo’s case just depends on if a Kozuki needs to go to Laugh Tale. It’s really that simple. We know he’s very important for even beyond this arc (can command Zunisha, will bring the Dawn, cannot be allowed to die) and the question is just whether that importance requires him to travel with Luffy, or whether it can be accomplished separately.

It would not be framed as abandoning Wano, unlike Oden he would not be going on a purposeless adventure, he would be going on a short trip with the explicit purpose of, basically, changing and saving the world, Wano included. Like Jinbei representing the Fishmen, he would be going for Wano.
 
Yamato has a zoan that is the guardian of wano

so it would make more sense if she just stayed in wano
and Kaido’s DF should make him a protector, not a destroyer. Again, the point is Yamato never wanted to eat the DF intentionally. She should be a guardian of Wano if she intentionally ate it & declared by eating it, she’d be a guardian of Wano. But the reality is on the opposite.
 

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Momo’s case just depends on if a Kozuki needs to go to Laugh Tale. It’s really that simple. We know he’s very important for even beyond this arc (can command Zunisha, will bring the Dawn, cannot be allowed to die) and the question is just whether that importance requires him to travel with Luffy, or whether it can be accomplished separately.

It would not be framed as abandoning Wano, unlike Oden he would not be going on a purposeless adventure, he would be going on a short trip with the explicit purpose of, basically, changing and saving the world, Wano included. Like Jinbei representing the Fishmen, he would be going for Wano.
In Roger's case, he needed Oden for his ability to write the ancient language. That along with his ability to hear voices as well.

Luffy has Robin who can read poneglyphs so Momo would need to be something different.
 
In Roger's case, he needed Oden for his ability to write the ancient language. That along with his ability to hear voices as well.

Luffy has Robin who can read poneglyphs so Momo would need to be something different.
Yeah, it wouldn’t be reading Poneglyphs, I think it would more likely have something to do with his ability to command Zunisha.

Oda’s also twice had us see the scene where Oden tells Momo (and Hiyori, to be fair) to see the world beyond Wano, once in Zou, once in the flashback on Wano




An adult Momo who can protect himself is someone I really can’t rule out until we find out what this is all about

 
Yeah, it wouldn’t be reading Poneglyphs, I think it would more likely have something to do with his ability to command Zunisha.

Oda’s also twice had us see the scene where Oden tells Momo (and Hiyori, to be fair) to see the world beyond Wano, once in Zou, once in the flashback on Wano




An adult Momo who can protect himself is someone I really can’t rule out until we find out what this is all about

actually about Momo being able to protect himself, I still doubt it. Remember that Shinobu stated that he will be an adult outside, but still 8 years old inside. We also haven’t seen Momo’s ability to fight; whether it’s swordsmanship or any fighting style. At this point Momo looks like Shirahoshi, with non/minimum fighting ability but has special power.
 

Uncle Van

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Yeah, it wouldn’t be reading Poneglyphs, I think it would more likely have something to do with his ability to command Zunisha.

Oda’s also twice had us see the scene where Oden tells Momo (and Hiyori, to be fair) to see the world beyond Wano, once in Zou, once in the flashback on Wano




An adult Momo who can protect himself is someone I really can’t rule out until we find out what this is all about

Yeah bottom line is that it depends on whether Momo's purpose requires him to be a SH or not. He already said he wants to be the Shogun so I doubt Momo would immediately leave when the SHs do.
 
One thing i will say too is that, very early on when both Momo and Luffy first met each other- Momo himself believed that the Shogun was more powerful and greater than the Pirate King, which is what Luffy aspires to be. The two both believed their own dream and ambition was greater than the other.

Luffy and Momonosuke had a rivalry going on there. And before Luffy accepted Momo as a true man, he was calling him out for being weak and useless. Momo admired that Luffy was able to draw people to his side just because people looked up to him, whereas even though Momo was royalty, he considered himself less useful than his pirate counterpart, who had to rely on his retainers the scarabs for everything.

I honestly find it hard to believe that Momo would just let got of all that ambition and join Luffy's crew, who in a sense can be considered his rival, as well as someone he considers to be a role model that he wants to work towards.

Becoming Shogun is also Momo's dream, so i find it hard to believe that he would give all that up just for Luffy.
 
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