General & Others Remember when people were saying Monster Trio is not real or Sanji got kicked out of M3?

[Sir Yasheen]

But, Luffy and Zoro got power ups as well...

He thinks Luffy didn't need a significant power up to beat a billion berry pirate either and that Zoro wont need a power up to do the same.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Luffy, staying Monster Trio after hard work during the timeskip
Zoro, staying Monster Trio after hard work during tje timeskip
Sanji, becoming Monster Trio again after a small reunion with his family

 

[Rekien]

But, Luffy and Zoro got power ups as well...

Both of them just got upgrates in their CoA before the rooftop fight, not even close to comparable to the PU's Sanji got.

 

[kenedyfake]

Queen Snake ATTack level

 

[Tai long]

Yes, Luffy would strugggle.

And lets not pretend its a fair fight, not when Kaido has been fighting withoud a rest against multiple opponents while Luffy already got put out of commision twice and had 2 breaks, and thats just since the rooftop started.

How the heck would luffy struggle if his base attack is splitting the sky and kaido fighting multiple people might weaken kaido but it won’t affect his attack power

 

[Rekien]

How the heck would luffy struggle if his base attack is splitting the sky and kaido fighting multiple people might weaken kaido but it won’t affect his attack power

Soo what if they are spliting the sky? Thats just the result of their CoC clash, Yamato dont have it but still could trade blows with Kaido. All the fighting wont just affect his atack power, it will affect his stamina and endurance too.

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Yeah remember that? Good time.

Not only Monster Trio is canon, the portrayal of it is immensely shown throughout the series.

First it was confirmed by Nami in Thriller Bark.

And second was Caribou in Fishman Island.

Now, Oda likes to put Luffy, Zoro and Sanji in the same panel A LOT.

Stuff like that.

In an interview, Oda puts Zoro and Sanji as the Wings of the Pirate King.

Which later got confirmed.

Then we got the "Stars" statement from Marco which also referred to both Zoro and Sanji.

And just like the interview, both Zoro and Sanji have trust on Luffy and got his back.

One wing can't be heavier than another. The Wings are indisputable placement of the crew.:cheers:

Praise be the Monster Trio!!! Long Live the Monster Trio!!!

Tagging some Monster Trio fans!

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@Kuro Ashi @TheKnightOfTheSea @Kromage911 @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @Doggo @Arrow @Chaves @Luffy is the mc @Bango🍅 @playa4321 @Tejas @DynaMight etc etc.

Only toxic group were talking that it 'never existed' or change when Oda never said or put anything in that manner. When fragile ego of Head Piece users only ones talking while whole fanbase were saying they are the top guys of the crew.

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lol I only really like Zoro and Sanji out of the m3 but I appreciate the tag.

Nah, but Zoro or Jimbei is though. No need for biased from your insecurites.

Sanji doesn't have fight against yonko

Sanji fought Big Mom prior arc and blocked her attack. Oda even stated that in SBS.

 

[Ven437]

Yamato can be the Oden of the crew. A guest and powerful enough to compete against the Monster trio

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Yamato can be the Oden of the crew. A guest and powerful enough to compete against the Monster trio

Like with Roger Pirates, Rayleigh and Gaban were above Oden even Anime put that on Gaban beating him, so Yamato is to M3, but Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji are above her.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro has not surpassed luffy, you think luffy would struggle with a yc1 and be on defensive when he is fighting equally with a yonko

That's because you guys fail to properly abstract the rooftop fight. If you look at it better you might figure Zoro's true potential but you are probably also run by bias so it's all harsher to figure. You usually focus your attention on post Hakai Zoro alone.

 

[Tai long]

That's because you guys fail to properly abstract the rooftop fight. If you look at it better you might figure Zoro's true potential but you are probably also run by bias so it's all harsher to figure. You usually focus your attention on post Hakai Zoro alone.

you also fail to digest what happens post rooftop; killer was on the rooftop, does that make him stronger than king

what the hell is post hakai zoro, because zoro is back at 100% after taking the mink drug and he is on the defensive when he can fight extreme diff with kaido, imagine base kaido been on the defensive against king

 

[Finalbeta]

you also fail to digest what happens post rooftop; killer was on the rooftop, does that make him stronger than king

what the hell is post hakai zoro, because zoro is back at 100% after taking the mink drug and he is on the defensive when he can fight extreme diff with kaido, imagine base kaido been on the defensive against king

What has Killer have to do with this?

I was referring to the notion that you guys underrate Zoro's rooftop performance cause you fail to properly evaluate it and only prominently focus on the notion that Zoro was KOed post Hakai without properly seeing what happened earlier. Zoro's level of AP, combat speed, reactions, defensive barrier output.

 

[Ven437]

Like with Roger Pirates, Rayleigh and Gaban were above Oden even Anime put that on Gaban beating him, so Yamato is to M3, but Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji are above her.

>Manga shows Rayleigh and Scopper 2v1ing Oden

>Claims Rayleigh and Gaban are individually above Oden

>Uses anime as proof

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanjis just going to surpass her. Easy.

You sound like the Jinbe fandom did.

Jimbe had adv coc + Mythical zoan + Ice moves + Kaido's moves

 

[Ven437]

Jimbe had adv coc + Mythical zoan + Ice moves + Kaido's moves + child of the WSC

Fixed :cheers:

 

[MonsterKaido]

--Jimbei is one of the hardest chracter to scale ; but yamato's power evel is clear cut with holding hybrid kaido the WSC ; not getting K.O.ed ; having so many powers and adv coc ; sanji needs adv coc if he is to surpass her

--In next arc that may be the case but in wano? Hell no unless oda gives sanji adv coc now

 

[Shasha23]

you also fail to digest what happens post rooftop; killer was on the rooftop, does that make him stronger than king

what the hell is post hakai zoro, because zoro is back at 100% after taking the mink drug and he is on the defensive when he can fight extreme diff with kaido, imagine base kaido been on the defensive against king

When did Zoro get back to 100%?
The only drug Zoro took was to help him move again, the drug he took didn’t magically heal him, recharge his stamina and replenish his haki, the drug only allowed him to be able to move again, the One Piece manga was pretty clear on this, or did you miss that part

 

[Hanzo hattori]

Holding the WSM > Defeating Queen who nerfs himself

Kaido's moveset + Ice attacks + Shield + Adv coc + DF Dura/power > Exoskeleton + RS + Possible fire buff :cheers:

Facts even Luffy couldn't fight Kaido alone before unlocking adv COC but somehow beating Queen makes you stronger than her

 

[Finalbeta]

--Jimbei is one of the hardest chracter to scale ; but yamato's power evel is clear cut with holding hybrid kaido the WSC ; not getting K.O.ed ; having so many powers and adv coc ; sanji needs adv coc if he is to surpass her

--In next arc that may be the case but in wano? Hell no unless oda gives sanji adv coc now

Why is Jinbe so hard to scale IYO? I have a rather consistent opinion of him. 🤔

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

When did Zoro get back to 100%?
The only drug Zoro took was to help him move again, the drug he took didn’t magically heal him, recharge his stamina and replenish his haki, the drug only allowed him to be able to move again, the One Piece manga was pretty clear on this, or did you miss that part

It's explicitly stated to have ultra-regenerative effects; pretty sure it is indeed meant to magically heal him, basically because it's obvious Oda simply created an ad hoc tool so he could follow both the rooftop and the King-Queen vs. Zoro-Sanji routes.