General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Sasparan]

I saw what you guys quoted me for.
I was going to respond but i dont want to write whole essay just to say a simple fact. I was busy whole day i dont want to spend my precious hours writing an essay.

Sorry for not responding.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

THere is already a log keeper and that's the navigator.

She's only logging routes and related stuffs... Mostly for map making... But not the way Oden's was written...

Besides, Yamato can make vivre cards...

 

[Logiko]

She's only logging routes and related stuffs... Mostly for map making... But not the way Oden's was written...

Besides, Yamato can make vivre cards...

Carefull.. what oden wrote was not a log but a journal. Remember that Oden started writing WAY before getting on the ships.

I don't see how Yamato making vivre card can help the crew.. at a moment.. i think we have to accept that there is just no role suited for her.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Carefull.. what oden wrote was not a log but a journal. Remember that Oden started writing WAY before getting on the ships.

I don't see how Yamato making vivre card can help the crew.. at a moment.. i think we have to accept that there is just no role suited for her.

Then what makes you think that Yamato won't write another journal aka "bible"?

So as Brook's role... Making vivre card would help them keep track of each other...

 

[Logiko]

Then what makes you think that Yamato won't write another journal aka "bible"?

So as Brook's role... Making vivre card would help them keep track of each other...

Why would she do that ? And for what purpose ?

The strawhats already have vivre cards

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Why would she do that ? And for what purpose ?

Come on, the reason is right in front of you, there's no deep reasoning BS involved... Since you're a self-proclaim analyst, you should be aware of that...

The strawhats already have vivre cards

Only Luffy has...

 

[Flagandhat]

I don't see how Yamato making vivre card can help the crew.. at a moment.. i think we have to accept that there is just no role suited for her.

It is true that yamato right now hasnt got a role for the ship. But in the future maybe she will obtain a role. For me Yamato and Carrot have a lot of problems for joining. Instead of saying the bad things of they two, it will be better if we make a list of the good points of carrot and yamato, in order to make clear who is in a better place for joining.
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I dont see vivi joining... But what if she is the final nakama? I think that it is very possible.

 

[Logiko]

Come on, the reason is right in front of you, there's no deep reasoning BS involved... Since you're a self-proclaim analyst, you should be aware of that...



Only Luffy has...

No. Right now there is no reason for Yamato to write anything.

It is true that yamato right now hasnt got a role for the ship. But in the future maybe she will obtain a role. For me Yamato and Carrot have a lot of problems for joining. Instead of saying the bad things of they two, it will be better if we make a list of the good points of carrot and yamato, in order to make clear who is in a better place for joining.
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I dont see vivi joining... But what if she is the final nakama? I think that it is very possible.

I've made that. And Carrot is in the lead.

Carrot is already a nakama. What she is not is a crewmate. But it is possible yeah.

 

[Rushwheel]

I do not agree with that Yamato is like the "princess of the arc". Traditionally the princess in one piece is usually damsel in distress who cannot really fend for themselves without Luffy or any strawhat being able to inspire them to be better leaders. Most princess that you just name were crybabies and that do not have self-confidence in themselves. Some of the princess in those respect arcs were well love and care for by their families. An individual who represents the princess trope that you just mention would be Momonosuke. Yamato unlike other princess does not consider the place she was raised to be her home.




Yamato has lot more common with Sanij than any other princess. Both had strict and abusive fathers that had high expectation for their child to be something greater for them. They were both prisoners under their father’s organizations, had explosives cuff on their wrist that prevent them from leaving their family, hate dads and hate their bloodlines that tie to them their fathers and let us not also forget they were both starve to death. Unlike Sanji Yamato did not have any other relatives who really showed her compassion. It was samurai, ace, and the random beast pirate who showed they care about her wellbeing. However, the thing with Ace though, is he did not have advance form of Haki to free her and could not keep his promise to liberate Wano. Sanji had one sibling that care about him, and he was free from his father grasp. When he met zeff he met someone with common goal like he did. Luffy defeating Kaido allows Yamato to live her life.


Finally, Yamato unlike most princess she was mostly eager to meet Luffy. She was at least able to by sometime until Luffy had arrive that both King, Queen and Jimbei acknowledge her importance within the arc. She is not at all interested babysitting Momonosuke and being one of his retainers. As well she does not want to take over her father’s organizations, she wants to be a service for Luffy and the rest of the strawhats. Princess in one piece they were not trying to join the strawhats and leaving the place they call home. They just wanted things go back normal or zero. The only thing that princess usually suggested to make promise that they meet again, would they consider them a friend of theirs or other additional promises .

I guess Oda learned and evolved and this time his princess is powerful and more interesting. Time will tell who is she anyway.
Also I read the manga, I know Yamato's character so there was no need to explain all the nuances to me. You see, we can talk hours about how sad or similar to Sanji Yamato's past was but in the manga itself it was too short and shallow, took less than a chapter from Oda. He doesn't do that to the Straw hats. And it's not like another miracle friend from the past will emerge soon to fill the void because she had no one but Ace as she mentioned herself on the rooftop. So if there is more to come I have no idea how is it going to work.
Unless Oda doesn't care giving big and unique backstories (5-6 chapters or more) to the remaining Straw hats anymore. Because... no time or whatever, just use Ace, everyone loves Ace and that will do. Maybe that's what it is lol.

 

[Rootbeer]

Maybe, maybe not

How much time do you think Oda spent planning her character?

Bland rabbit design ✅
Flat boring name ✅
Unoriginal stereotype personality '' cheerful, cute, melee fighter, fearless '' ✅
Uninspired rehashed '' wonder '' theme ✅
Used 95 percent of the time as mindless background character ✅

 

[Finalbeta]

Until the disband of the crew, why ?

Was just curious. 🤔

Knowing Oda if he decided to let her stay despite the Big Mom Pirates were vanquished this arc she will most likely stay "forever", otherwise will have to see whether or not her intentions will be to stay once they are done with.

 

[Logiko]

How much time do you think Oda spent planning her character?

Bland rabbit design ✅
Flat boring name ✅
Unoriginal stereotype personality '' cheerful, cute, melee fighter, fearless '' ✅
Uninspired rehashed '' wonder '' theme ✅
Used 95 percent of the time as mindless background character ✅

Bland rabbit design ? Wrong. I can assure you as an artist that her design his amazing. Simple but amazing.
Flat boring name ? It is perfect to remember rapidly. I don't see that as a lose.
Unoriginal personnality ? It's litterally a first in One Piece for a girl and even for a character beside Luffy. WTF ?
Uninspired rehashed wonder theme ? This is just bad faith. THis is a first in the manga dude.. Come on don't ridiculize yourself.
used 95 % as a background character.. Ok.. This one I agrree but ONLY in wano.

 

[Adamxero]

Larrot is trash.

Sooner she becomes the vice captain of the nox pirates beating average marines in the final war the better.

 

[Sigran101]

Bland rabbit design ? Wrong. I can assure you as an artist that her design his amazing. Simple but amazing.
Flat boring name ? It is perfect to remember rapidly. I don't see that as a lose.
Unoriginal personnality ? It's litterally a first in One Piece for a girl and even for a character beside Luffy. WTF ?
Uninspired rehashed wonder theme ? This is just bad faith. THis is a first in the manga dude.. Come on don't ridiculize yourself.
used 95 % as a background character.. Ok.. This one I agrree but ONLY in wano.

I actually agree with this post 100%. Make more like this.

 

[Rootbeer]

Bland rabbit design ? Wrong. I can assure you as an artist that her design his amazing. Simple but amazing.

She's just a basic bland rabbit like Randolf..

Flat boring name ? It is perfect to remember rapidly. I don't see that as a lose.

Her name is stale like her design..

Unoriginal personnality ? It's litterally a first in One Piece for a girl and even for a character beside Luffy. WTF ?

A bunch of cliche put together is still a shallow character..

Uninspired rehashed wonder theme ? This is just bad faith. THis is a first in the manga dude.. Come on don't ridiculize yourself.

Everyone in One Piece is going to sea for Adventure, its called romance dawn for a reason..

used 95 % as a background character.. Ok.. This one I agrree but ONLY in wano.

No, the entirety of her existence from Zou to Wano is 95 % background character, that's how bad she is..

 

[Staticshadic]

I guess Oda learned and evolved and this time his princess is powerful and more interesting. Time will tell who is she anyway.
Also I read the manga, I know Yamato's character so there was no need to explain all the nuances to me. You see, we can talk hours about how sad or similar to Sanji Yamato's past was but in the manga itself it was too short and shallow, took less than a chapter from Oda. He doesn't do that to the Straw hats. And it's not like another miracle friend from the past will emerge soon to fill the void because she had no one but Ace as she mentioned herself on the rooftop. So if there is more to come I have no idea how is it going to work.
Unless Oda doesn't care giving big and unique backstories (5-6 chapters or more) to the remaining Straw hats anymore. Because... no time or whatever, just use Ace, everyone loves Ace and that will do. Maybe that's what it is lol.

To be fair zoro and ussop's flashback was pretty short practically one chapter. But it always possible there will more to the flashback when get to see it from Kaido's perspective to add on Yamato's backstory.

 

[Flagandhat]

Carrot right now is not a main character in wano. Tama, Momo, Kinemmon group, Yamato and Mugiwaras have more importance than carrot. It is a big problem that a lot of characters are having more screens than carrot.

 

[Sigran101]

I'm so sick of Carrot vs Yamato. Can we talk about Law instead? Because he's got more strawhat criteria checked off than Carrot and Yamato combined (in fact he fits all of them, and better than many of the actual strawhats do as well). Luffy even tells people Law is his crew member just like he did with Sanji before he joined.

 

[Logiko]

She's just a basic bland rabbit like Randolf..



Her name is stale like her design..



A bunch of cliche put together is still a shallow character..



Everyone in One Piece is going to sea for Adventure, its called romance dawn for a reason..



No, the entirety of her existence from Zou to Wano is 95 % background character, that's how bad she is..

Repeating the same argument twice don't make them true boi. Non Carrot is not boring. no Carrot is not cliche. Don't ridiculize yourself just because you want to protect your favorite character.

 

[Rootbeer]

Repeating the same argument twice don't make them true boi. Non Carrot is not boring. no Carrot is not cliche. Don't ridiculize yourself just because you want to protect your favorite character.

How does Carrot visually standout to other average minks like Tristan? They both ordinary characters, but Tristan's name is more original than a basic vegetable.. She's several cliche pieced together, she's a shallow character..

Everyone in One Piece is going to sea for Adventure, its called romance dawn for a reason.. Wonder brings nothing unique, it has always been there since the start of the story..

The entirety of her existence from Zou to Wano is 95 % background character, that's how bad she is..