Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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well it was obvious it was just a flashback never expected to have long fight it was just oden story already 12 chapters straight might get one or 2 chapters and then we will get back to the current time and see how Luffy and co will gather and go to Onigashima , gonna see the strawhat grand fleet , Marco , Neko and Jinbe arrive as well.
 
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I am still disappointed that he didn't show Linlin and what happened between her and Roger, and Shiki in this flashback.
Only shows or mentioned linlin in a speech bubble
No mention of Shiki
No mention of Kaido till Oden came back to wano.

Shiki BM were just shadows on how rocks survivors became famous 33 years ago

The legendary battle between WB and Roger that Buggy hypes was just a friendly one lol

Kaido vs Oden was just a fast clash
 
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Current Kaido is 53 years old
When Kaido was an apprentice at Xebec pirates, he was 15 years old
Kaido in chapter 970 was 33 years old

Roger reached the peak when he was 39
Whitebeard reached its peak when he was 41 years old.

That is, Kaido had a lot of room to grow, he was still young
Is he stated to be 33 years old in the chapter?
 

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I didn't say Kaido can't grow stronger in 20 years, there is absolutely nothing at this point suggesting he has in fact grown stronger. Give me narrative reasons for the position that current Kaido being significantly stronger than the version that fought Oden, and not "Lol Oden isn't Yonkou level".
20+ Years ago, Kaido was shitting his pants to attack Oden, but current Kaido tried to kill WB when he had all of his allies gathered with him. Isn't that enough to say he has grown a lot stronger both in terms of individual strength and the millitary might? Kaido's been in a constant quest to make his crew the strongest. As a matter of fact, He earned enough power, because of his sheer "strength", to stand alongside WB as an emperor of the sea. He became the worlds strongest creature and has done things that made the entire world accept his supremacy in one on one fights. It makes 0 sense that he'd spend 20 years without doing anything to surpass WB, the wall that was preventing him from becoming the king. It is downright absurd to even say "nothing suggests he has gotten stronger in the past two decades."
 
I am still disappointed that he didn't show Linlin and what happened between her and Roger, and Shiki in this flashback.
It is really frustrated to see how Oda rush the most important things in that way...
Looking to other mangasspoilers, Black clover had insane good fight chapter, the last fights in KnY was insane good and MHA spend a whole arc alone for the villian who could show insane good feats. Why Oda still tease so much and crushing the dreams of every poor soul in that way as he always do??
 
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First WB vs Roger being a joke
Now this?

Not forgetting Kaido vs BM just to end up smiling later

Oh wait... Katakuri being the honorable pirate WHILE the MC doesn't care playing dirty lol

I forgot admirals vs Revos will never be shown
Ah... :choppawhat: Shanks vs Teach will be half a chapter of then standing
Then offpanel till we hear Teach won LOL

One piece battles = 90% offpanel, 5% a joke, 5% meaningless
 
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