Versus Battle Rinnegan Madara vs Kaido

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#41
You didn't, you just screeched CoC like your name's Ndule.

Doesn't make sense. Unless you're gonna say CoC stops every chakra attack because it's CoC, you got no argument. Because there's fundamentally zero difference between Kaido getting hit by the Gedo Soul ability or Limbo Hengoku or Shinra Tensei for that matter. They share the same make up as chakra attacks.

So either this is a miss match because of CoC or you realize Madara's haxs wins this.
Lmfao no soul sucking dragons or soul sucking fat old hags
Neither work on kaido meme steals souls takes lifespans all that jazz too
Soul is soul
If meme can't do it to kaido neither can madara
Bodied.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#42
Lmfao no soul sucking dragons or soul sucking fat old hags
Neither work on kaido meme steals souls takes lifespans all that jazz too
Soul is soul
If meme can't do it to kaido neither can madara
Bodied.
Okay Ndule, explain to me again how CoC which can prevent devil fruits from working on them somehow translates to chakra based attacks? And why specifically the chakra based attacks that are hax, instead of every attack? Cause there's no distinction in Naruto, they're all based on the sample principles. Just because one is hax doesn't make its properties or make up intrinsically different.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#43
Okay Ndule, explain to me again how CoC which can prevent devil fruits from working on them somehow translates to chakra based attacks? And why specifically the chakra based attacks that are hax, instead of every attack? Cause there's no distinction in Naruto, they're all based on the sample principles. Just because one is hax doesn't make its properties or make up intrinsically different.
Oohohoho dry your eyes

Or are you gonna tell me kaido 2 souls
One that memes fruit would target
And another special chakra soul just for madaras worms
Oh wait he only has one and neither work on him cause his coc too big.
No there's so much hax in one piece that deal with so many thing laws ignore durability meme targets souls perona can rock a person's mentality dependent on their own mentality
None of it works.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#44
Oohohoho dry your eyes

Or are you gonna tell me kaido 2 souls
One that memes fruit would target
And another special chakra soul just for madaras worms
Oh wait he only has one and neither work on him cause his coc too big.
No there's so much hax in one piece that deal with so many thing laws ignore durability meme targets souls perona can rock a person's mentality dependent on their own mentality
None of it works.
Keep coping, Madara isn't a One Piece character and CoC won't effect him unless it's an advanced CoC attack. None of your ranting makes any sense.
 
#46
If coc doesn't let law move kaido then any soul sucking hax or genjutsu doesn't work on kaido

Water does nothing kaido has a sea dragon fruit he can breathe underwater
And even if his stamina gone cause of it kaidos flame clouds can move him through the water as seen when they went underwater to lift onigashima

More force doesn't hurt kaido
You need ryou
Then acoc on top of that to do lasting damage
The Law thing is a weakness for devil fruit, not ninjutsu like TheAncientCenturion said. Genjutsu wouldn't work on Kaido regardless of Haki or not since it's a biological thing in Naruto. Soul hax is different than what Law's devil fruit does, the only soul hax in OP are Big Mom and Brook, so you can't really use that as an example.
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Haki has an interplay with devil fruits. That doesn't transfer to ninjutsu or genjutsu unless you wanna outright change the match up and put chakra on the same level as devil fruits. Which outright makes this a stomp for Kaido.

Nothing Kaido has suggests he has an immunity to genjutsu, that's nonsense. Nothing kaido has suggests if soul sucking serpents jump him, he can CoC his way out. It's what happens when hax meets conventionally powered fighters. Hax wins.

Orochimaru did not seal away their personalities and was maintaining control over the Edo Tensei by manipulating the Senju DNA that their host bodies were composed of. So no duh, Hashirama can control a body composed of his DNA better than Orochimaru.
Genjutsu wouldn't work because of how chakra and genjutsu interact. The manipulation of the chakra in the network of the target is what genjutsu is and controlling the senses is the byproduct of that. Genjutsu doesn't interact with the senses directly. Everyone in the Narutoverse has chakra even before Kaguya which is why she planted the tree so she can absorb the chakra from everyone. Hagomoro taught people how to utilize it properly.

Regardless even without genjutsu, Rinnigan soul hax gg.
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Except we literally see the guy with the most hax who can ignore durability use an organ melting move DO NOTHING to kaido. Laws fruit basic function of room doesn't even work on kaido simply due to how big his coc is. So if even the haxiest hax doesn't work then genius won't work either and it won't just be law watch all hax like Peronas kumas the girl with the paint shit on baroque works anything like that won't work on these top coc users. Massive coc is proven to be > hax
Except the thing is it's not actually

Massive coc > hax,

it's Massive coc > Devil fruit hax.

The weakness of the devil fruit doesn't mean it works for crossverses, unless we are equalizing everything which I don't recall.
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No. I proved to you coc > hax
You really haven't proved anything other than Haki > Devil Fruit
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You didn't, you just screeched CoC like your name's Ndule.

Doesn't make sense. Unless you're gonna say CoC stops every chakra attack because it's CoC, you got no argument. Because there's fundamentally zero difference between Kaido getting hit by the Gedo Soul ability or Limbo Hengoku or Shinra Tensei for that matter. They share the same make up as chakra attacks.

So either this is a miss match because of CoC or you realize Madara's haxs wins this.
You didn't, you just screeched CoC like your name's Ndule.

Doesn't make sense. Unless you're gonna say CoC stops every chakra attack because it's CoC, you got no argument. Because there's fundamentally zero difference between Kaido getting hit by the Gedo Soul ability or Limbo Hengoku or Shinra Tensei for that matter. They share the same make up as chakra attacks.

So either this is a miss match because of CoC or you realize Madara's haxs wins this.
I don't think Shinra Tensei would be that effective on Kaido, but Gedo Soul ability, Human path. The limbo is a SO6P power which I don't think this Madara has, so that's not an option
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Oohohoho dry your eyes

Or are you gonna tell me kaido 2 souls
One that memes fruit would target
And another special chakra soul just for madaras worms
Oh wait he only has one and neither work on him cause his coc too big.
No there's so much hax in one piece that deal with so many thing laws ignore durability meme targets souls perona can rock a person's mentality dependent on their own mentality
None of it works.
I have no idea what you're on right now, but since you're just rambling, it's clear that you can't actually make a proper argument.

That means Madara wins gg
 
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#47
@T2K Baka

Obito stated that Madara with two Rinnegans would be frightning,not Madara + Juubi = 4 Limbo Clones. Juubi just boosted Madaras physical power,regenration and gave him the Truth Seeker Balls. It was never mentioned that Madara need Juubi to have his 4 Limbo Clones,only the two Rinnegans.
 
#48
You don't have to tell me how OP he is, this is not So6p Madara. You should consider the opponent is Kaido, he is not some human being who can be beaten by meteor or some elemetal attack, fire, wind, etc. Or some chunnin lvl whose soul can be easily ripped off.

Tell which 6 path will work on Kaido?? Just to bully him?? That's all
And water jutsu?? If water is that much of a weakness for Kaido, then his introduction won't include on land, "sea" and air.

I've never seen any offensive attack from Madara that could severely damage Kaido. If hax won't work, then he need to summon ten tails. That's the only way he will win.
If not So6p Madara
Wait people really believe Kaido can move underwater?

devil fruit weaknesses apply to everyone, even Kaido. Stop making shit up
 
#51
Kaidos flame clouds can move him underwater even if his body can't move.
No they can’t, again let’s stop making shit up

devil fruit weakness apply to everyone. As far as we know Kaido is an anchor like everyone else who gets their energy drained. Madara can easily figure that out
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#52
No they can’t, again let’s stop making shit up

devil fruit weakness apply to everyone. As far as we know Kaido is an anchor like everyone else who gets their energy drained. Madara can easily figure that out
luffy could still stretch under water as seen at the fucking start of this manga
Being underwater doesn't make you lose your fruit power it just drains your physical stamina.
Kaidos flameclouds should still be usable.

His clouds went underwater to lift onigashima
 
#53
luffy could still stretch under water as seen at the fucking start of this manga
Being underwater doesn't make you lose your fruit power it just drains your physical stamina.
Kaidos flameclouds should still be usable.


His clouds went underwater to lift onigashima
Luffy was stretched with is very different from actively trying to stretch. To expect Kaido to still be conscious under water is funny when Big Mom herself didn’t last long

This is just straight up headcanon vs actual canon at this point.
 
#54
luffy could still stretch under water as seen at the fucking start of this manga
Being underwater doesn't make you lose your fruit power it just drains your physical stamina.
Kaidos flameclouds should still be usable.


His clouds went underwater to lift onigashima
But he wasn't under water by himself to cast these clouds?

I'm only asking because water should paralyze DF User.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#55
But he wasn't under water by himself to cast these clouds?

I'm only asking because water should paralyze DF User.
The water won't just teleport and cover him he will have time to use the clouds before he completely submerged
 
#56
Wait people really believe Kaido can move underwater?

devil fruit weaknesses apply to everyone, even Kaido. Stop making shit up
I'm not making shit up, his devil fruit is literally fish model.
Don't ask me, ask the one piece world why they called Kaido strongest even in sea.
If water is the key of beating devil eaters, then Jinbei is among top 5 strongest.
 
#57
I'm not making shit up, his devil fruit is literally fish model.
Don't ask me, ask the one piece world why they called Kaido strongest even in sea.
If water is the key of beating devil eaters, then Jinbei is among top 5 strongest.
No, his fruit is the fish fish model Dragon. It’s literally a play on mythology.
He’s a pirate, of course he will have “strongest on sea” title.

headcanon galore here
 
#58
No, his fruit is the fish fish model Dragon. It’s literally a play on mythology.
He’s a pirate, of course he will have “strongest on sea” title.

headcanon galore here
Headcanon??
He is the strongest "creature" on land, "sea" and air
The sea doesn't indicate just because he is a pirate.
And also thinking a water is enough to beat op top tiers is stupid not just Kaido.
By that logic, more Marines should use water power instead of bullet guns and canons
 
#59
Headcanon??
He is the strongest "creature" on land, "sea" and air
The sea doesn't indicate just because he is a pirate.

it literally does. Pirates fight at sea, there no indication Kaido's DF is above regular DF disadvantages. That is headcanon.

And also thinking a water is enough to beat op top tiers is stupid not just Kaido.
By that logic, more Marines should use water power instead of bullet guns and canons
What water powers? where exactly are they going to get that? You realize how stupid you sound by that? Did Vegapunk somehow create a water water no mi?


You have to literally pull shit out of your ass to have Kaido even stand a chance against Madara. I know this is a One Piece forum but take those stupid stan glasses off.
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The water won't just teleport and cover him he will have time to use the clouds before he completely submerged
when was the last time you read Naruto? The water prison is an instant move, and Kisame's water wave bombing submerge Killer bee in seconds. By the time he gets hit by water he will start to lose energy.

Again, Big Mom drowned immediately, we have no reason to believe Kaido won't be the same
 
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#60
@T2K Baka

Obito stated that Madara with two Rinnegans would be frightning,not Madara + Juubi = 4 Limbo Clones. Juubi just boosted Madaras physical power,regenration and gave him the Truth Seeker Balls. It was never mentioned that Madara need Juubi to have his 4 Limbo Clones,only the two Rinnegans.
That's what Obito stated, but has Obito seen two Rinnigan Madara? SO6P which gives limbo and all the other bs on top of the Rinnigan would be much stronger. Regardless in this case with 2 Rinnigan Madara, he still wins since Kaido can't really do much.

it literally does. Pirates fight at sea, there no indication Kaido's DF is above regular DF disadvantages. That is headcanon.



What water powers? where exactly are they going to get that? You realize how stupid you sound by that? Did Vegapunk somehow create a water water no mi?


You have to literally pull shit out of your ass to have Kaido even stand a chance against Madara. I know this is a One Piece forum but take those stupid stan glasses off.
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when was the last time you read Naruto? The water prison is an instant move, and Kisame's water wave bombing submerge Killer bee in seconds. By the time he gets hit by water he will start to lose energy.

Again, Big Mom drowned immediately, we have no reason to believe Kaido won't be the same
I agree that Kaido's DF weakness is the same as other ( with the exception of Aokiji since he can just freeze it). Oda said as long as it's still water then it works regardless if it's freshwater or seawater. Rain is "moving" water, so maybe those water dragon jutsus might be ineffective, but the water prison definitely will work
 
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