General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Berry Rich]

Unlikely. Carrot is one Mink with a green cape. Meaning that she is the only musketeer with "a guardian hearth", that should mean that she was the only musketeer trained by a guardian.

If this is true there should be more flashbacks of Pedro and Carrot. Their mentor-student relationship lacks depth.

You are right, genius my be a stretch but it's a logical appreciation when ther VIvre card says that "The mastery of Sulong to such a young age is unusual"

Tho I didn't said that Sulong was multiplying her base ability.

I added the multiplier as a reference of something genius for Sulong.

Yes she was. by being put against Zoro first. Oda narratively made a point about her strenght. Plus, remember what the light of the moon is. It's just the sun reflection on the moon. There might be more to the Sulong transformation that just that.

The point could be interpreted as Carrot being reckless.

Why not ? Being able to use Sulong at the age of 15 is also unlikely. So having Haki for Carrot wouldn't be a stretch.

Carrot awakening her Haki should have happened during the Perospero fight. It would have made narrative sense for a future Strawhat.

Because Carrot's Sulong design might be directly inspired by Goku's Saiyan 3 form. The Sulong being also inspired by the Ozaru transformation, giving Carrot a form of Kamehameha would be more that fitting. (and mega cool lol)

Also remember, we are talking here of the case if Carrot was a future strawhat. In that matter, she is bound to surpass the capacities of Inu and Neko in term of originality.

Also this would not be such a stretch as Carrot's Electrical Luna begin also like a Kamehameha at first

I wouldn't say poorly but I agree yeah

If Carrot was going to surpass Dog and Cat, defeating Perospero by herself would have shown that growth. Or at least shown more panels of her the fight.

Poorly in variety of use.

 

[Logiko]

Oda made yamato say "I want to go sailing with Luffy." basically. and You ignore it.
Carrot can't even get that much. But You are high if you think Carrot has more chances. You are biased for Carrot, You rep her with the strawhat as your avatar, You bias is in clear view. Meanwhile you got plenty of people arguing against you who favor many other characters and they are telling you that Yamato has better chances, You have Seth who can't stand Yamato saying she has more chances than Your precious Carrot. Are You mental?

No. I'm not ignoring it. In fact this line from Yamato is the base of my argumentation against her recrutment. But to understand why I say that.. you would need to LISTEN to what I say since the beginning..


Of course I'm biased toward Carrot. But being bias toward a character doesn't need to negate the construction of a strong argumentation. sadly, in your (mostly all) case, it does.

Like I already said for the case of @Van (if I remember correctly) not rooting for Yamato doesn't negate the fact that you can have a negative bias toward her character and their construction in the story.

Also, don't be psychophobe will you..

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It's all a red herring bro. Classic case of Oda’s masterfully subverting expectations to make Carrot join in the end.

Yup, classic Oda.

 

[Ravagerblade]

No. I'm not ignoring it. In fact this line from Yamato is the base of my argumentation against her recrutment. But to understand why I say that.. you would need to LISTEN to what I say since the beginning..


Of course I'm biased toward Carrot. But being bias toward a character doesn't need to negate the construction of a strong argumentation. sadly, in your (mostly all) case, it does.

Like I already said for the case of @Van (if I remember correctly) not rooting for Yamato doesn't negate the fact that you can have a negative bias toward her character and their construction in the story.

Also, don't be psychophobe will you..

Your line of reasoning is faulty. That's what you don't get.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

the thing is Oda didn't gave to Yamato something he hasn't already given to Carrot. So yeah..

I’m seriously confused with how terrible your grammar is. Although it’s pretty clear that Yamato has:

- clear terrible backstory
- multiple flashbacks
- plot importance
- main villain who is the main antagonist of the arc

Real question though:

if it’s reversed, that Carrot was the one who showed up a bit later having every bit importance Yamato has now, and Yamato was in Carrot’s position (tagged along, etc.) only to disappear most of time, having their same design, but just reverse role, would you still think Carrot joining?

 

[Uncle Van]

There is no spam here and you know it. Don't try to desmiss a source because it doesn't suit your agenda.

It's your choice not to read.. but if so, don't ask question and don't ask evidences.

This article (specifically is impossible to copy past, a quick look at it and you would understand why)

It's impossible to copy n' paste? Well ain't that a blatant lie. So you lie to get people to check out your blog? Even more like spam.

 

[Logiko]

If this is true there should be more flashbacks of Pedro and Carrot. Their mentor-student relationship lacks depth.

We don't really need more that what we had.

The point could be interpreted as Carrot being reckless.

I agree completely, this action acts as a multiple characterization. That's one of the reasons why Carrot introduction is so impressive in term of writing.

Carrot awakening her Haki should have happened during the Perospero fight. It would have made narrative sense for a future Strawhat.

It would but it would only have served the revenge for Pedro.. Now, if Carrot's awake her ability in the future, it will be in favor of her character, because of this defeat.

If Carrot was going to surpass Dog and Cat, defeating Perospero by herself would have shown that growth. Or at least shown more panels of her the fight.

Surpassing might be a strong word, more like in the creativity of her attacks. Carrot is not a mugiwara yet, there is no reasons for this fighting ability to be depicted right now.

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Your line of reasoning is faulty. That's what you don't get.

ok

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It's impossible to copy n' paste? Well ain't that a blatant lie. So you lie to get people to check out your blog? Even more like spam.

Did you see the article ? It's litterally cribbled with manga panels. This would make the reproduction of this article, a work of hours to put those panel in here.. So yeah, it's impossible for me and my broken brain. Still not a spam

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

If carrot is furry . Then logic dictate Yamato is furry because she is not human.
Facts

 

[Logiko]

I’m seriously confused with how terrible your grammar is. Although it’s pretty clear that Yamato has:

- clear terrible backstory
- multiple flashbacks
- plot importance
- main villain who is the main antagonist of the arc

Real question though:

if it’s reversed, that Carrot was the one who showed up a bit later having every bit importance Yamato has now, and Yamato was in Carrot’s position (tagged along, etc.) only to disappear most of time, having their same design, but just reverse role, would you still think Carrot joining?

Sorry about my grammar, can't really do anything against it right now.

Note that if Yamato has multiple flashback, those are nowhere enough in term of content to even come close to the flashbacks of the strawhats (2 driving forces are needed + one moral pillar we got only 1 driving force and nothing else)

If Carrot was at the place of Yamato (without the setup of whole cake) with exactly the setup of Yamato, she would have no chance on the Sunny.

 

[Ravagerblade]

If carrot is furry . Then logic dictate Yamato is furry because she is not human.
Facts

Nope.

 

[Steven]

Katakuri joining the Mugiwaras makes more sense as Carrot joining them.She has no place/buisness with them

Yama makes the most sense as Momo will stay and protect Wano

That means,the Mugiwaras gets another strong fighter,even with ACoC

 

[Seth]

Yup, classic Oda.

He's laughing at you dude.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Nope.

Is yamato human ?
Answer : no .

Then yamato is furry as carrot. Simple as it.

 

[Logiko]

He's laughing at you dude.

i'm not.

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Katakuri joining the Mugiwaras makes more sense as Carrot joining them.She has no place/buisness with them

Yama makes the most sense as Momo will stay and protect Wano

That means,the Mugiwaras gets another strong fighter,even with ACoC

- No

- No

- No

 

[Ravagerblade]

Is yamato human ?
Answer : no .

Then yamato is furry as carrot. Simple as it.

Wrong. Yamato is whatever Kaidou is but also half. She has no Fur like Minks do. Not a Furry. Simple as that.

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i'm not.

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- No

- No

- No

:holdthisl:

 

[Logiko]

Wrong. Yamato is whatever Kaidou is but also half. She has no Fur like Minks do. Not a Furry. Simple as that.

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:holdthisl:

ok

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Beside carrot is Paul.

Yamaato is franky

Oda repeat history .

@CarrotForNakama enough your carrot nonsense and start eating your carrots

 

[Logiko]

ok

Here, you can hold it back now

:holdthisl:

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Beside carrot is Paul.

Yamaato is franky

Oda repeat history .

@CarrotForNakama enough your carrot nonsense and start eating your carrots

You not the father of me

 

[Ravagerblade]

ok

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Wrong. Yamato is whatever Kaidou is but also half. She has no Fur like Minks do. Not a Furry. Simple as that.

That is most dumb statement . Literally mental gymnastics for this.
‘’If carrot is lizard .snake , crocodile, turtle.. Carrot is furry even she don’t have fur.

Furry mean non human thing.

Kaido is dragon . Literally dragon furry fanboy. Literally have furry army.
Face Yamato is furry .
Human don’t have horns like oni, cattle, or goats.

 

[MonsterKaido]

You not the father of me