General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
- Thread starter Guan Yu
- Start date
- Tags #carrot4prison #furries4carrot #larrot #yamato4nakama #yamatofansunite #yamatoisnakama carrot blows cry about carrot furries for nakama furries scurries i need my support carrot body pillow oni princess and the pirate king this thread stupid we're here for jew vs dizzy who wants rabbit stew yamato > carrot yamato best girl yamato finds the one piece yamato hype yamato is the last crew mate
- Status
So you went from..
"A angry fanbase can have an impact on the product. We have seens that happening multiple times in the last few years. And that one of the reasons why I'm so fierce on that thread " (to help you guyz understand that Yamato won't join the crew and there is therefore no reason to call Oda names like an angry mob)
To
...
Why am I even trying?
"A angry fanbase can have an impact on the product. We have seens that happening multiple times in the last few years. And that one of the reasons why I'm so fierce on that thread " (to help you guyz understand that Yamato won't join the crew and there is therefore no reason to call Oda names like an angry mob)
To
...Why am I even trying?
When I make an analysis it's ALWAYS based on the canon of the manga or the lore around the creation of the manga
When I make assumption, I say "I'm making assumptions"
CarrotforNakama is a theory based on canon material and strong analysis
The construction of the story I put in small italic was only but assumptions and must be teken like it.
When I make assumption, I say "I'm making assumptions"
CarrotforNakama is a theory based on canon material and strong analysis
The construction of the story I put in small italic was only but assumptions and must be teken like it.
So you went from..
"A angry fanbase can have an impact on the product. We have seens that happening multiple times in the last few years. And that one of the reasons why I'm so fierce on that thread " (to help you guyz understand that Yamato won't join the crew and there is therefore no reason to call Oda names like an angry mob)
To
...
Why am I even trying?
"A angry fanbase can have an impact on the product. We have seens that happening multiple times in the last few years. And that one of the reasons why I'm so fierce on that thread " (to help you guyz understand that Yamato won't join the crew and there is therefore no reason to call Oda names like an angry mob)
To
...Why am I even trying?
Post automatically merged:
I just read your blog. Its a lot of stuff, but the only things you make clearly that you reinforce that matter the most are these 7:
Let's conclude
They are seven rules that a character must ABSOLUTELY fulfill just to be considered a worthy candidate for a recruitment at the present state of the story. A character must:
- Be alive
- Be relevant to the story
- Be unique and have a unique ability
- Be free from faction duty or independent
- Be a friend or a false adversary
- Looking and acting toward adventure
- Have a moral Pillar
Also, your benchmarks aren't even accurate as some of the straw hats that joined already broke some of these rules in the first place anyway.
Like for example rule 4, where it states one must be free from faction duty or independent. Well Nami wasn't faction free and independent as she was still held down by Arlong, why did she still join the crew?
Edit: while i was reading your blog i also found this:
Before jumping into the analysis.
You might find it strange that there is no "dream" or "sad backstory" here. This is because of one simple fact: all those categories were designed by the fan, not by Oda himself!
^This quote goes here pretty much confirms that you disregard the canon manga completely and basically renders your entire argument meaningless. This is the point where i stop taking your website seriously.
Last edited:
Oh my.. you didn't understand why I laughed?
Oh boi..
I'll repeat it in summary: You went from reading:
- That I fight for you guyz to not lash out on Oda when Yamato don't join and CArrot does
From thinking..
- That I was trying to make Oda see my blog to change his mind..
So.. I logically laughed .. and you didn't understand why..
Ok .. so I promise I won't make fun of you this time and will try to be VERY pedagog:
Basically I'm saying the opposite.
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him)
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
Did I made myself clear this time ?
Oh boi..
I'll repeat it in summary: You went from reading:
- That I fight for you guyz to not lash out on Oda when Yamato don't join and CArrot does
From thinking..
- That I was trying to make Oda see my blog to change his mind..
So.. I logically laughed .. and you didn't understand why..
Ok .. so I promise I won't make fun of you this time and will try to be VERY pedagog:
Basically I'm saying the opposite.
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him)
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
Did I made myself clear this time ?
Last edited:
@CarrotForNakama so you say you are an analyst. You said we are blind. You said we are pigeons.
What are you then when Yamato joins at the end of Wano? Will you then admit you are blind and dumber than a pidgeon?
You cant tell me this will not effect you. You are arguing so much and you are writing walls and walls of text. And if Carrot does not join it will not effect you? After all this confidence? Stop lying.
You will be in absolute shock. I cant imagine your feelings. I guess it will be kinda like losing a beloved family member or even worse
What are you then when Yamato joins at the end of Wano? Will you then admit you are blind and dumber than a pidgeon?
You cant tell me this will not effect you. You are arguing so much and you are writing walls and walls of text. And if Carrot does not join it will not effect you? After all this confidence? Stop lying.
You will be in absolute shock. I cant imagine your feelings. I guess it will be kinda like losing a beloved family member or even worse
Post automatically merged:
Not anymore.. "pidgeon" was a bit toxic, i'm sorry for that.
Wrong, simply.
Wait.. did I not make a whole post of multiple lines explaning clearly why this won't affect me in any ways ? Was it not in reply to your post ??
I'm starting to think that my posts are somehow invisible..
No one read them
The only surprise factor Oda had done was with Robin, and even back then Robin was shown being very mysterious, that she saved Luffy. She was also the one who made comment first about “D”, which finally made people think what is with the D? Robin also didn’t disappear most of the story during Alabasta arc.
Another thing worth to notice was that Robin was a villain before joining. That’s why Oda compensated her back story after she joined. The rest of Straw Hats back story was revealed prior joining. Carrot has never been a villain, and there is no point for Oda to compensate her back story.
And again I still don’t understand the logic that Oda needed to give so much for Yamato just to be a red herring for Carrot. The logic still applies that Oda could have given the Yamato’s spotlight to Carrot instead of pushing Carrot out of the story. There is no need for “surprise factor”. In One Piece, things that always go around surprise factor always about death. Ace’s death, Sabo turned out to be alive, Pell & Pound survived, etc.
Ask this question to yourself: why Oda needs to create Yamato, gives Yamato so much spotlight instead of giving those to Carrot? And if you’re looking for answer, answer it with what has been presented in the manga. Not head canons, nor “surprise factor” assumptions.
Also, no need to feel triggered that the specific person feels the need to insult Yamato supporters as “blind”.
Another thing worth to notice was that Robin was a villain before joining. That’s why Oda compensated her back story after she joined. The rest of Straw Hats back story was revealed prior joining. Carrot has never been a villain, and there is no point for Oda to compensate her back story.
And again I still don’t understand the logic that Oda needed to give so much for Yamato just to be a red herring for Carrot. The logic still applies that Oda could have given the Yamato’s spotlight to Carrot instead of pushing Carrot out of the story. There is no need for “surprise factor”. In One Piece, things that always go around surprise factor always about death. Ace’s death, Sabo turned out to be alive, Pell & Pound survived, etc.
Ask this question to yourself: why Oda needs to create Yamato, gives Yamato so much spotlight instead of giving those to Carrot? And if you’re looking for answer, answer it with what has been presented in the manga. Not head canons, nor “surprise factor” assumptions.
Also, no need to feel triggered that the specific person feels the need to insult Yamato supporters as “blind”.
quote from a facebook user I have share this this quote once
I think still ring true for this year at least.
J"erico since the beginning of one piece, whenever a character joined the crew, that character was very important in that arc and got too many focus on the story. Zoro joined pretty quick, so you can call him an exception. But even he got 2 episode focus before he joined and at that moment the series was only 3 episodes long. Then ussop, nami and sanji both got their own arc so that they can join the crew. They were the main focus of those arcs. Robin was very important and got too many highlights in alabasta arc. Chopper had too many highlights in his own arc. Then franky got 2 arcs before he joined the crew and he was the main focus of water 7 arc. Brook was a very important character in thriller bark arc. Jimbe got highlights and had good relationship with ace and saved luffy. But got very few screentime. So, he later got proper screentime in whole cake island. Then he joined the crew. You can see the trend here. You can look back and see that without these characters, their respective arcs would have remained incomplete. But carrot isn't like that. She isn't an important character. Without her, the whole cake island arc would have been complete. Because she wasn't important in that arc. Her only cool moment was the sulong fight. Getting a good fight isn't enough to join the crew. Strawhats are very elite in one piece series. To join this elite group, you have to be someone special. And how do you know that someone is special? You know someone is special when oda gives that character a lot of screentime and importance in the story. Can you tell me what carrot has done in wano so far worth mentioning? Nothing!!!! There are already too many characters in wano, so don't expect her to get anymore highlights in the story because even some of the strawhats may not get that. Carrot has been in the story for many years and yet she isn't an important character other than a cute bunny. It was fine if it was in east blue saga. But right now, one piece is in it's final showdown and the moments are very serious. Cuteness isn't good enough at this point.
I think still ring true for this year at least.
J"erico since the beginning of one piece, whenever a character joined the crew, that character was very important in that arc and got too many focus on the story. Zoro joined pretty quick, so you can call him an exception. But even he got 2 episode focus before he joined and at that moment the series was only 3 episodes long. Then ussop, nami and sanji both got their own arc so that they can join the crew. They were the main focus of those arcs. Robin was very important and got too many highlights in alabasta arc. Chopper had too many highlights in his own arc. Then franky got 2 arcs before he joined the crew and he was the main focus of water 7 arc. Brook was a very important character in thriller bark arc. Jimbe got highlights and had good relationship with ace and saved luffy. But got very few screentime. So, he later got proper screentime in whole cake island. Then he joined the crew. You can see the trend here. You can look back and see that without these characters, their respective arcs would have remained incomplete. But carrot isn't like that. She isn't an important character. Without her, the whole cake island arc would have been complete. Because she wasn't important in that arc. Her only cool moment was the sulong fight. Getting a good fight isn't enough to join the crew. Strawhats are very elite in one piece series. To join this elite group, you have to be someone special. And how do you know that someone is special? You know someone is special when oda gives that character a lot of screentime and importance in the story. Can you tell me what carrot has done in wano so far worth mentioning? Nothing!!!! There are already too many characters in wano, so don't expect her to get anymore highlights in the story because even some of the strawhats may not get that. Carrot has been in the story for many years and yet she isn't an important character other than a cute bunny. It was fine if it was in east blue saga. But right now, one piece is in it's final showdown and the moments are very serious. Cuteness isn't good enough at this point.
I forgot to add another point that Oda compensated Robin’s back story with Enies Lobby because it was back then when Oda still had more than enough time.
And this point is correct, if Carrot appeared during East Blue or Grand Line at least, she would still have the chance. But it’s already Wano. Many fans have complained that Yamato is added to late to join, imagine if we’re getting 1-2 arcs to focus on Carrot’s backstory only. Even during Marineford arc/post timeskip Oda has stated that it was already 60-70% done IIRC.
Again, if Oda really intended Carrot to join, Oda could’ve just make Wano is Carrot’s arc that she’s the center of this arc, that she has the proper background to join. But the facts from the manga show the exact opposite. Even Raizo & Fukurokuju have better spotlight than Carrot.
And this point is correct, if Carrot appeared during East Blue or Grand Line at least, she would still have the chance. But it’s already Wano. Many fans have complained that Yamato is added to late to join, imagine if we’re getting 1-2 arcs to focus on Carrot’s backstory only. Even during Marineford arc/post timeskip Oda has stated that it was already 60-70% done IIRC.
Again, if Oda really intended Carrot to join, Oda could’ve just make Wano is Carrot’s arc that she’s the center of this arc, that she has the proper background to join. But the facts from the manga show the exact opposite. Even Raizo & Fukurokuju have better spotlight than Carrot.
Oh my.. you didn't understand why I laughed?
Oh boi..
I'll repeat it in summary: You went from reading:
- That I fight for you guyz to not lash out on Oda when Yamato don't join and CArrot does
From thinking..
- That I was trying to make Oda see my blog to change his mind..
So.. I logically laughed .. and you didn't understand why..
Ok .. so I promise I won't make fun of you this time and will try to be VERY pedagog:
Basically I'm saying the opposite.
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him) that's your own wet dream.
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
Did I made myself clear this time ?
Oh boi..
I'll repeat it in summary: You went from reading:
- That I fight for you guyz to not lash out on Oda when Yamato don't join and CArrot does
From thinking..
- That I was trying to make Oda see my blog to change his mind..
So.. I logically laughed .. and you didn't understand why..
Ok .. so I promise I won't make fun of you this time and will try to be VERY pedagog:
Basically I'm saying the opposite.
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him) that's your own wet dream.
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
Did I made myself clear this time ?
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him) that's your own wet dream.
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
^
1. So your writing this post for us to see and understand why Oda will have Carrot join the crew and not Yamato when the time comes, and additionally hoping that we would not go after Oda? If Yamato is joining the crew why would we go after Oda?
2. You still haven't told me what Carrot's strong case that is supported by the manga, the same goes for Yamato not having a strong case to join the crew.
3. Why would I be disappointed if Yamato is joining the crew?
The only person that oda is in danger of being insulted by is you, if Carrot doesn't end up joining. After all, you're the one with the most time and investment into campaigning for a fictional character. None of us have gotten to the point of being desperate enough of making a blog for Yamato yet.
Last edited:
Basically I'm saying the opposite.
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him) that's your own wet dream.
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
^
1. So your writing this post for us to see and understand why Oda will have Carrot join the crew and not Yamato when the time comes, and additionally hoping that we would not go after Oda? If Yamato is joining the crew why would we go after Oda?
2. You still haven't told me what Carrot's strong case that is supported by the manga, the same goes for Yamato not having a strong case to join the crew.
3. Why would I be disappointed if Yamato is joining the crew?
The only person that oda is in danger of being insulted by is you, if Carrot doesn't end up joining. After all, you're the one with the most time and investment into campaigning for a fictional character. None of us have gotten to the point of being desperate enough of making a blog for Yamato yet.
- I don't care about Oda seeing me (in fact, for his sake I hope he doesn't, it could Jinx him) that's your own wet dream.
- I know that Carrot has a strong case and that Yamato does no .. so..
- I KNOW that there will be dissoinpointed people at the end of Wano here in this toxic environment.
And what i'm trying is to prevent them from insulting the mother of Oda once the arc is finished.
^
1. So your writing this post for us to see and understand why Oda will have Carrot join the crew and not Yamato when the time comes, and additionally hoping that we would not go after Oda? If Yamato is joining the crew why would we go after Oda?
2. You still haven't told me what Carrot's strong case that is supported by the manga, the same goes for Yamato not having a strong case to join the crew.
3. Why would I be disappointed if Yamato is joining the crew?
The only person that oda is in danger of being insulted by is you, if Carrot doesn't end up joining. After all, you're the one with the most time and investment into campaigning for a fictional character. None of us have gotten to the point of being desperate enough of making a blog for Yamato yet.
Even the ones who pretty much said that Yamato & Carrot both suck, can see where the story is going
Because Robin was important to the story of the Alabasta arc. So even if she was just a secondary character, she was logicaly still there. nothing out of the ordinary.
Not Usopp's one (the backstory of Usopp only appears at the end of the arc, after Usopp is recruted by Luffy).
Not Nami's one (it happens during Arlong Park
And not Sanji's one (the second half) it happens during Totland.
Robin was not a villain, Robin was a false antagonist. This is a very important distinction to make as Robin was never depicted too evil, there was always a mysterious, even maybe helpfull side to her characterization. Her backstory on Alabasta has three role : to setup her dream, to setup her character arc (this is the first time that you can actually see Robin give up on life), and to make the reader understand what happened between her and Luffy. But this was not made to compensate anything.
Oda is giving this much to Yamato only because of the simple fact that Yamato is an important character in Onigashima and that her cahracter arc relates in everyway to the theme of Wano.
Yamato is only a redhearing in the sence that Oda is accentuating her will to sail with Luffy.. But it the great scheme of her cahracter arc.. everything that oda gives to Yamato is logical. It's going in synch with her character arc. (I don't know if that very clear.. it's a bit technical)
Oh ! and.. Yeah..
There is ALWAYS the need for a surprise factor in One Piece. It's litterally how this story is constructed.. with tons of surprises put one after the other.. with ones much surprising than others.
Yamato as I have done the hypothesis before, was probably either a very late addition to Wano (late as 2018 late) because of the lack of setup for that character (Oda at this point is too good with setups to forget those) ..or a very EARLY character imagined to be fighting aongside Momo .. because of the lack of setup for that character.. (Oda at that point was probably not that good with setup, and might have constructed the story while forgetting to setup Yamato correctly..). In either cases.. yamato felt a bit forced because of that lack of setup.
Now. if you ask me why was Yamato invented.. it's another story.. and it depend on which hypothesis you choose from the two above:
- If Yamato is a late character she was most likely invented to add depth to the lore of Kaido and the theme of parenting during the last part of the arc where this theme is not that much present..
- If Yamato is an early character, she was most likely created to help Momo fullfil his destiny. And to help the readers introduce a lot of lore about Joy Boy/the dawn/Luffy etc..
There is a lot of possibility of "what if" but right now .. at the present states of the story .. yamato acts as a vector of protection for Momo and the people of Wano, she was also a vector of setup for Luffy's rise to the top (999/1000).
Also.. You are not all blinded, some of you are less blinded than others by the Yamato hype.. but yea.. there is no other qualificatifs..
But notes that being "blinded" by the story is not such a bad thing, it shows that the story works ! The problems start with toxicity and forum wars.
The pseudo was a joke at first.. I hate when people try to force things on the author.. but I kept it because of .. well why not..
The only reason the Yamato supporters are no so much interested in defending their mascott is because of the balance of power. The hype of Yamato is stronger than the hype surrounding Carrot, if it was the opposite, with Carrot fan making fun and being toxic with Yamato fans.. there would be voices like mine from the Yamato community.
Yup, why ? Because toxicity, that's why. And by being here, i'm not only talking to the forum users, but also to the public who might end up on taht thread.
You still haven't taken a look at my blog where everything is explained so we are in an awkward situation here..
Not you per say, I'm talking in a general sence.. Because that how toxic people reacted to the lack of fight for sanji in whole cake.. Starting a litteral backlash on the arc that was not justified.
Don't worry about me, I have a very healthy relationship with One Piece.. Such a twist is nothing.
Not Usopp's one (the backstory of Usopp only appears at the end of the arc, after Usopp is recruted by Luffy).
Not Nami's one (it happens during Arlong Park
And not Sanji's one (the second half) it happens during Totland.
Robin was not a villain, Robin was a false antagonist. This is a very important distinction to make as Robin was never depicted too evil, there was always a mysterious, even maybe helpfull side to her characterization. Her backstory on Alabasta has three role : to setup her dream, to setup her character arc (this is the first time that you can actually see Robin give up on life), and to make the reader understand what happened between her and Luffy. But this was not made to compensate anything.
Oda is giving this much to Yamato only because of the simple fact that Yamato is an important character in Onigashima and that her cahracter arc relates in everyway to the theme of Wano.
Yamato is only a redhearing in the sence that Oda is accentuating her will to sail with Luffy.. But it the great scheme of her cahracter arc.. everything that oda gives to Yamato is logical. It's going in synch with her character arc. (I don't know if that very clear.. it's a bit technical)
Oh ! and.. Yeah..
There is ALWAYS the need for a surprise factor in One Piece. It's litterally how this story is constructed.. with tons of surprises put one after the other.. with ones much surprising than others.
Yamato as I have done the hypothesis before, was probably either a very late addition to Wano (late as 2018 late) because of the lack of setup for that character (Oda at this point is too good with setups to forget those) ..or a very EARLY character imagined to be fighting aongside Momo .. because of the lack of setup for that character.. (Oda at that point was probably not that good with setup, and might have constructed the story while forgetting to setup Yamato correctly..). In either cases.. yamato felt a bit forced because of that lack of setup.
Now. if you ask me why was Yamato invented.. it's another story.. and it depend on which hypothesis you choose from the two above:
- If Yamato is a late character she was most likely invented to add depth to the lore of Kaido and the theme of parenting during the last part of the arc where this theme is not that much present..
- If Yamato is an early character, she was most likely created to help Momo fullfil his destiny. And to help the readers introduce a lot of lore about Joy Boy/the dawn/Luffy etc..
There is a lot of possibility of "what if" but right now .. at the present states of the story .. yamato acts as a vector of protection for Momo and the people of Wano, she was also a vector of setup for Luffy's rise to the top (999/1000).
Also.. You are not all blinded, some of you are less blinded than others by the Yamato hype.. but yea.. there is no other qualificatifs..
But notes that being "blinded" by the story is not such a bad thing, it shows that the story works ! The problems start with toxicity and forum wars.
Post automatically merged:
The pseudo was a joke at first.. I hate when people try to force things on the author.. but I kept it because of .. well why not..
The only reason the Yamato supporters are no so much interested in defending their mascott is because of the balance of power. The hype of Yamato is stronger than the hype surrounding Carrot, if it was the opposite, with Carrot fan making fun and being toxic with Yamato fans.. there would be voices like mine from the Yamato community.
Post automatically merged:
Yup, why ? Because toxicity, that's why. And by being here, i'm not only talking to the forum users, but also to the public who might end up on taht thread.
You still haven't taken a look at my blog where everything is explained so we are in an awkward situation here..
Not you per say, I'm talking in a general sence.. Because that how toxic people reacted to the lack of fight for sanji in whole cake.. Starting a litteral backlash on the arc that was not justified.
Don't worry about me, I have a very healthy relationship with One Piece.. Such a twist is nothing.
Last edited:
Wait.. did I not make a whole post of multiple lines explaning clearly why this won't affect me in any ways ? Was it not in reply to your post ??
Carrot is now your life. There is nothing left except Carrot in your life! What will you do when Oda takes away Carrot (your life)?
Then you basically mean that Carrot is irrelevant to Wano’s story, and hoping that Carrot will join post Wano. Was there any Straw Hat who was irrelevant prior joining? Because no Straw Hats have been irrelevant prior joining in the respective arc, if you think Carrot will join after Wano ends. And it’s a fact.
But still the facts are still there that Usopp is the central character before he joined. And even if you talk about Nami & Sanji, again, Nami & Sanji were the central character of the specific arc prior joining.
Robin was still considered a villain since she joined the villains organizations. She was a villain, but she had her own agenda. Even with 8 years working with Crocodile, she didn’t fully trust Crocodile and only used him to find her last option of poneglyph in Alabasta. And if you say there is nothing to compensate, Oda still did make the Enies Lobby arc to fulfill the exact same pattern of each Straw Hat: having terrible past
And again Oda could’ve given every single bit of those to Carrot if he really intended Carrot to join, but unfortunately he didn’t. Oda could’ve just simply made Carrot (for example) Kaido’s adopted daughter who ran away to Zou that Jack infiltrated Zou to take her back. But the fact that Oda didn’t do that, means that Oda never intended for Carrot to join.
Your logic here also applies that Carrot was given proper spotlight during WCI so that she becomes red herring for the one that is going to join, which is Yamato. The logic isn’t really that hard to comprehend.
And these are your hypothesis of “was probably” which means it has nothing to do with the story Oda has presented to the fans. Again as I said, you need to answer with the facts from manga, for example: “because in manga chapter XX Oda has shown that Yamato is late to the story because of the X factor, that the X factor is the fact that Yamato will not join.”
If you say “it’s probably”, or “possibility”, that means those are your assumptions, and it’s clear that you actually don’t have the answer that has been presented in the manga. You only answer because those are what you think & assume. You can’t simply trying to convince others with your assumptions. You need to convince people with facts & evidences. If you’re in a court right now, the judge and jury will most likely be laughing at you because you try to convince people based on your assumptions.
Oda has explained himself that he actually wanted to finish One Piece in 5 years (back then when One Piece first appeared), and that he actually wanted to make the crew complete even during the East Blue saga. But his editors said otherwise.
The one here who is pretty much blinded is you, because you can’t see the writings on the wall. As I said, even the ones who hates both Yamato & Carrot can see the facts in the story. You’re the one who tried to deny it with your assumptions, blinded by your own vanity, that your strongest argument of assumptions is “Yamato is red herring for Carrot” while the story shows the opposite.
Many Carrot fans (like Pot Goblin for example) still hoping that Carrot joins, but they know that it’s either Yamato alone, Yamato and Carrot, or none. You’re the only one here who keeps denying Yamato won’t join but Carrot joins, instead of trying to convince people that Carrot is also joining along with Yamato
But still the facts are still there that Usopp is the central character before he joined. And even if you talk about Nami & Sanji, again, Nami & Sanji were the central character of the specific arc prior joining.
Robin was still considered a villain since she joined the villains organizations. She was a villain, but she had her own agenda. Even with 8 years working with Crocodile, she didn’t fully trust Crocodile and only used him to find her last option of poneglyph in Alabasta. And if you say there is nothing to compensate, Oda still did make the Enies Lobby arc to fulfill the exact same pattern of each Straw Hat: having terrible past
And again Oda could’ve given every single bit of those to Carrot if he really intended Carrot to join, but unfortunately he didn’t. Oda could’ve just simply made Carrot (for example) Kaido’s adopted daughter who ran away to Zou that Jack infiltrated Zou to take her back. But the fact that Oda didn’t do that, means that Oda never intended for Carrot to join.
Your logic here also applies that Carrot was given proper spotlight during WCI so that she becomes red herring for the one that is going to join, which is Yamato. The logic isn’t really that hard to comprehend.
And these are your hypothesis of “was probably” which means it has nothing to do with the story Oda has presented to the fans. Again as I said, you need to answer with the facts from manga, for example: “because in manga chapter XX Oda has shown that Yamato is late to the story because of the X factor, that the X factor is the fact that Yamato will not join.”
If you say “it’s probably”, or “possibility”, that means those are your assumptions, and it’s clear that you actually don’t have the answer that has been presented in the manga. You only answer because those are what you think & assume. You can’t simply trying to convince others with your assumptions. You need to convince people with facts & evidences. If you’re in a court right now, the judge and jury will most likely be laughing at you because you try to convince people based on your assumptions.
Oda has explained himself that he actually wanted to finish One Piece in 5 years (back then when One Piece first appeared), and that he actually wanted to make the crew complete even during the East Blue saga. But his editors said otherwise.
The one here who is pretty much blinded is you, because you can’t see the writings on the wall. As I said, even the ones who hates both Yamato & Carrot can see the facts in the story. You’re the one who tried to deny it with your assumptions, blinded by your own vanity, that your strongest argument of assumptions is “Yamato is red herring for Carrot” while the story shows the opposite.
Many Carrot fans (like Pot Goblin for example) still hoping that Carrot joins, but they know that it’s either Yamato alone, Yamato and Carrot, or none. You’re the only one here who keeps denying Yamato won’t join but Carrot joins, instead of trying to convince people that Carrot is also joining along with Yamato
Last edited:
well I’m a huge Monet fan, and many have been making fun & toxic to Monet. But did I ever once play the victim card & being toxic back to them when they say “Monet is worse case than Carrot”, “Monet is as shitty as Carrot”?
Nope. I simply say that people have their own perspective regarding each character. That’s why they try to respect me being a Monet fan, especially since I don’t force Monet theories to everyone’s throat. If you feel the need to be toxic because of what you call as toxic environment, then that means you’re pretty much immature, easily triggered & influenced with bad influence.
You said “I’m okay if Carrot doesn’t join” but you are also the one who easily triggered with people being toxic to Carrot. If you’re okay that she doesn’t join, you don’t have to be triggered if people are making fun of her or being toxic towards her.
Nope. I simply say that people have their own perspective regarding each character. That’s why they try to respect me being a Monet fan, especially since I don’t force Monet theories to everyone’s throat. If you feel the need to be toxic because of what you call as toxic environment, then that means you’re pretty much immature, easily triggered & influenced with bad influence.
You said “I’m okay if Carrot doesn’t join” but you are also the one who easily triggered with people being toxic to Carrot. If you’re okay that she doesn’t join, you don’t have to be triggered if people are making fun of her or being toxic towards her.
Last edited:
- Status