General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Logiko]

Zut..

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Okay this will be quick

and here you are ignoring the fact that Wanda is also there and interpret it with your own meaning

No. wanda is indeed here. But it doesn't change the meaning of the panel. A good analyst knows that.

You said SOME things can only be explained which basically means it’s not even MOST not even ALL. Are you blind?

I'm sorry.. i'm still.. wua ??

Then I can’t fix stupid

i'll ignore that lol, I'm too patient with you all lol

no need to feel triggered that I counter your argument with your own logic

No one is triggered here lol

You’re not that relevant to be sued. Stop trying to make yourself one

ok.. too bad

And now you’re blaming mangaplus for your own “strange vision of honesty.” Is this a new made-up term from you?

no, just on that little mistakles. I'm blaming yourself for being incapable of seing the obvious lol

Oh you clearly sure need to learn proper english.

Did I triggered you Daredevil?

Pointing your stupidity to comprehend things easily

So you are in the insult stage now ? lol

and now you want to talk about image but ignoring the context. That’s why people treat you as a whole circus because you’re trying so hard to prove yourself the most intelligent being here only to prove yourself otherwise.

No, people treat me like a circus, because they can do anything else lol
Almost no one here has the actual argument to counter me :p
The context is clear, those two are revelation of power. in one image Oda one careful, in the other, not so much.

and still doesn’t change the fact that Yamato has 2 page of attack combination with Luffy. You can be blind and ignore it but the truth is still here:

Yeah.. and ?

“I’m usually right when it comes to storytelling” And everybody can tell that you’re so infatuated with fictions instead of facts. No wonder you’re so delusional.

I guess you will have to see for yourself as you can't see the facts.

Oh yes I’m an artist. You pretty much will be surprised how good I can draw. I can pretty much show it here:

“Or you don't understand how composition work and .. well then ask question but don't laugh when we are replying to you.” Okay then artist, explain about Fibonacci Sequence, Golden Ratio, and also about figure drawing. What’s the difference between male figure, female figure, and design figure.

Damn.. An artist who doesn't understand a thing about composition and panel meaning.. Excuse me if I am suspicious.


For the concepts you have thrown like garbage, i could explained them to you (and why their usage in art is not based on scientific fact for exemple) but it would take a Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot of meaningless time.. I could litterally talk hours about the rule of third .. but that's for later.

And no, Jinbe is in the center. Not Carrot. The page was there to celebrate Jinbe finally appeared and officially joined the crew. It’s not about Carrot, it’s about Jinbe. And still Wanda was there to only for you to ignore.

It’s really funny that you say you’re the analyst only for you to not understand. Or as I say: read the context?

Wrong, Jinbe and Carrot are both in center. For good reasons in fact.. but that's a story for another time :)

Yes, you don’t care because the mistakes are not in favor for Carrot. You can keep coping, the facts are still there. If I may suggest you to start elevate your brain quality so you can make a difference between facts and fictions

Can I suggest just to drink some milk and honey.. it might calm your anxiety and stop that behavior you have of insulting for no reasons lol

 

[SILVERS000]

At this point it seems pointless to even try to discuss it

- You dispute his points and he calls you idiots because you dont interpret the story the way he does under the guise of "I'm an analyst"

- He say that consistent patterns in a writers story in doesnt matter then says that narratively it makes sense to not continue the trend that the author has set

- He makes a point that a panel of Carrot with the crew is all you need to look at because she is the only one there with the crew when he knows that not true and Wanda is there, even goes out of his way to post a highly edited version of the panel that removes all background including Wanda, but when show him its wrong he says it doesnt matter

- SHOWS PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL FROM A CALENDER OF THE SAME PANEL THAT STILL HAS WANDA EDITED OUT AND SAYS ITS EVEN MORE EVIDENCE, BUT NOT TOO LONG AGO CALLED EVERYONE STUPID FOR DOING THE SAME THING WITH YAMATO AND THE TOWELS THAT WERE RELEASED CLOSE TO THE CELEBRTION OF EPISODE 1000

- Says its not theory and speculation then links a blog were he theorizes why and how Carrot will join

Its painfully obvious at this point that the conversation will go nowhere especially when he calls people stupid then threatens to have to reported for being "toxic"

Carrot tagged along in WCI had a fun showcase at the end and faded back into the background of the minks

 

[Logiko]

At this point it seems pointless to even try to discuss it

- You dispute his points and he calls you idiots because you dont interpret the story the way he does under the guise of "I'm an analyst"

No, YOU guyz call me idiot lol. I just say that you don't understand what I'm talking about that's all. Are you not noticing that I'm the only one here who is not insulting anyone ?? xD

- He say that consistent patterns in a writers story in doesnt matter then says that narratively it makes sense to not continue the trend that the author has set

Yup. When that trend is just a tool it can be changed without problem to the story. I explained already why Oda might have changed that already.

- He makes a point that a panel of Carrot with the crew is all you need to look at because she is the only one there with the crew when he knows that not true and Wanda is there, even goes out of his way to post a highly edited version of the panel that removes all background including Wanda, but when show him its wrong he says it doesnt matter

Yup.. Wanda or not, it's the same. You are searching to prove a point that doesn't exist just ebcause "We must show this guy that he is wrong because... principle" lmao

- SHOWS PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL FROM A CALENDER OF THE SAME PANEL THAT STILL HAS WANDA EDITED OUT AND SAYS ITS EVEN MORE EVIDENCE, BUT NOT TOO LONG AGO CALLED EVERYONE STUPID FOR DOING THE SAME THING WITH YAMATO AND THE TOWELS THAT WERE RELEASED CLOSE TO THE CELEBRTION OF EPISODE 1000

Are you angry or something ? also.. what are you talking about ?

- Says its not theory and speculation then links a blog were he theorizes why and how Carrot will join

No, you are asiimilating everything and anything. Some of the things I say are analysis, some other things are hypothesis and speculations some other things are theory.. if you don't understand the different.. i'm not the problem.. YOU ARE :D

Its painfully obvious at this point that the conversation will go nowhere especially when he calls people stupid then threatens to have to reported for being "toxic"

again i'm the only one here not insulting anyone and I came back on my birds names.. so.. what are you on ?

Carrot tagged along in WCI had a fun showcase at the end and faded back into the background of the minks

And ?

 

[MonsterKaido]

Oda did carrot beyond dirty

Didn't even allow Larrot to defeat persopero

 

[Logiko]

Oda did carrot beyond dirty

Didn't even allow Larrot to defeat persopero

He didn't allowe Brook to win against Ryuma either tho

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Okay this will be quick


No. wanda is indeed here. But it doesn't change the meaning of the panel. A good analyst knows that.

The meaning of the panel is to welcome Jinbe to officially join the crew.

I'm sorry.. i'm still.. wua ??

Not surprising if you don’t understand your own words

i'll ignore that lol, I'm too patient with you all lol



No one is triggered here lol


ok.. too bad



no, just on that little mistakles. I'm blaming yourself for being incapable of seing the obvious lol

useless snarky comments

Did I triggered you Daredevil?
So you are in the insult stage now ? lol

on which part was I triggered? Lmao I’m not insulting you, I’m describing you. There’s a huge difference.

No, people treat me like a circus, because they can do anything else lol
Almost no one here has the actual argument to counter me :p
The context is clear, those two are revelation of power. in one image Oda one careful, in the other, not so much.

Because you keep using your head canons to force people to believe what your beliefs are.

Yeah.. and ?
I guess you will have to see for yourself as you can't see the facts.

Then I can’t fix stupid (2)

Damn.. An artist who doesn't understand a thing about composition and panel meaning.. Excuse me if I am suspicious.


For the concepts you have thrown like garbage, i could explained them to you (and why their usage in art is not based on scientific fact for exemple) but it would take a Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot of meaningless time.. I could litterally talk hours about the rule of third .. but that's for later.

Wanna talk about composition & panel meaning? The other Straw Hats (specifically Luffy, Nami, Chopper) were hugging ONLY Jinbe. If they were really about to celebrate both of them, the other 9 Straw Hats would have been shown hugging Jinbe AND Carrot, not Jinbe only. And that’s talking about composition and manga paneling.

and you chose to ignore & don’t care that Wanda is also there while your argument was that Carrot was the only non-Straw Hat there. When given real evidence, you blame Mangaplus + ignore the fact

But again, your strongest argument is “throwing those concepts like garbage” and ignore those questions thoroughly, and all you could say was “take a lot meaningless time.” You were the one who challenged us, but when we took that challenge you ran with your tail between your legs.

No need to bring scientific fact because we’re talking about art here. You can keep trying so hard being clever but that still won’t change the fact that you’re the opposite of it.

Wrong, Jinbe and Carrot are both in center. For good reasons in fact.. but that's a story for another time :)

Still doesn’t change the fact that they’re welcoming Jinbe to the crew and made Jinbe as the center of attention and the spotlight on him. Check my previous reply IF you can understand. And that’s a huge “if”

Can I suggest just to drink some milk and honey.. it might calm your anxiety and stop that behavior you have of insulting for no reasons lol

Again as I said: I’m not insulting you. I’m describing you. If you’re pretty much feel insulted, I missed the part where that’s my problem.

 

[Logiko]

Damn, 3/4 of your message is pure toxicity .. xD
Just try some honey and some milk, I assure you, it will calm you down a bit.
I will only reply to what's not too meaningless: so:

The meaning of the panel is to welcome Jinbe to officially join the crew.

You have a bit to learn about subtext.

Because you keep using your head canons to force people to believe what your beliefs are.

I'm not forcing anything on you. you are acting like an incel in front of CW show. If you don't like my argumentation, just ignore it.

Wanna talk about composition & panel meaning? The other Straw Hats (specifically Luffy, Nami, Chopper) were hugging ONLY Jinbe. If they were really about to celebrate both of them, the other 9 Straw Hats would have been shown hugging Jinbe AND Carrot, not Jinbe only. And that’s talking about composition and manga paneling.

No, that's talking nonsence. Composition would actually make you understand that all the look are directly directing the attention at the center of the image. Being Jinbe but ALSO Carrot. THIS is composition analysis. you, you are only trying to find excuses to dissmiss the subtext meaning of the panel

This is still one of the most important panel of the story and Carrot is in it's center. THAT's also analysis.

But again, your strongest argument is “throwing those concepts like garbage” and ignore those questions thoroughly, and all you could say was “take a lot meaningless time.” You were the one who challenged us, but when we took that challenge you ran with your tail between your legs.

Yes, you are throwing concept like garbage.. without explaining them.

No need to bring scientific fact because we’re talking about art here. You can keep trying so hard being clever but that still won’t change the fact that you’re the opposite of it.

Art is technique. Technique derives from science and empiric methodology. Art IS methodology.

 

[Staticshadic]

He didn't allowe Brook to win against Ryuma either tho

When Brook fought ryuma it was shown. Zoro did come Brook to defense. Vs Carrot who had no strawhat to defend her and her fight was skip over.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Damn, 3/4 of your message is pure toxicity .. xD
Just try some honey and some milk, I assure you, it will calm you down a bit.
I will only reply to what's not too meaningless:

Funny this came from someone who made a blog of thousands of words of a meaningless fictional character, hoping for it to be meaningful.

You have a bit to learn about subtext.

Changing goalpost (again) to fit your agenda. Totally nothing new. There is no need to learn about subtext/subversion dialogue BS. The story points there, the writings on the wall are obvious.

I'm not forcing anything on you. you are acting like an incel in front of CW show. If you don't like my argumentation, just ignore it.

What you’ve done here is forcing everyone to believe what you believe. You keep insisting that your hypothesis, theories, analyst, whatchamacallit is the most important one and intentionally calling others as “pigeons” because can’t see the “storytelling” from your point of view; while at the same time we are ignoring your hypothesis which has nothing to do with the story.

note to yourself: hypothesis is hypothesis. It has nothing to do with the story. That’s why it’s called “hypothesis” not “facts”. Learn the difference

No, that's talking nonsence. Composition would actually make you understand that all the look are directly directing the attention at the center of the image. Being Jinbe but ALSO Carrot. THIS is composition analysis. you, you are only trying to find excuses to dissmiss the subtext meaning of the panel

This is still one of the most important panel of the story and Carrot is in it's center. THAT's also analysis.

You were the one who brought that panel relevancy in favor of Carrot, claimed that the panel was more important than what Yamato has because Carrot was the only non-Straw Hat there, which means something.

Then we gave you the real panel with Wanda also there, only for you to change the goalpost by saying that Carrot is in the center, while at the same time pretty much ignore & don’t care that Wanda is also there; ignoring your first argument with your new goalpost.

The fact still stands that Wanda is there, and no need to bring “Carrot is in the center” as your new goalpost. You’re being disingenuous here and you know it

Yes, you are throwing concept like garbage.. without explaining them.

Or you don't understand how composition work and .. well then ask question but don't laugh when we are replying to you.

You were the one who challenged to be asked only to reply here that I’m the one who needs to explain them. Are you mental?

Art is technique. Technique derives from science and empiric methodology. Art IS methodology.

Source: trust me bro


Well then if you ask me to ignore you simply because you don’t want people argue your arguments, that’ll do.

After all I’m pretty much assured Yamato is joining. The story itself goes there. No need subtext, no need subversion dialogue. I also don’t need to convince people because they can see the writings on the wall.

Have it your way

 

[RobinsFeet]

@CarrotForNakama

Most people here are much better analyst than you. At the end of Wano you will see. Hopefully then you can change your view on the story but I doubt it. I never saw someone so delusional as you.

The delusion is so strong some people even think you are trolling because the fact someone is so delusional is unbelievable.

Mark my words: People here can much better analyze than you. After your realization try to read again all of this and try to learn some things. Its never to late

Have a nice day

 

[Sigran101]

Moria only opposed brook in a physical form. read again thriller bark, you will understand that the real problem of Brook is with Ryuma, only because it's his shadow.

Again, it's all about the value, it's very important to make the nuance.




No you can't. Krieg for example has nothing to do with Sanji, Sanji is only here to feed him. The real battle of value comes against Luffy.
really, I'm not making that up.. it's storytelling 101.

When an author create an antagonist, he looks FIRST at the protagonist. And put similar value in conflict. In short, the best antagonists are the one who ressemble the most the heroes but they are also flawed, that's why they are always better, but can't win against the REAL qualities of the protagonist.

Look closely at the arc of baratie, meaning by that, go check it while you are reading those line. You will see at one point during the arc where Sanji decides to attack Gin. But in the end.. Gin defeat him physically. Now.. look closely at tha moment.. who wins that moment for you at the end ? Is it Gin ? or is it Sanji ?

Spoiler: It is sanji.. Here is why. Yes Gin defeats physically Sanji.. but Gin was already mentally defeated LONG AGO, at the very moment where Sanji gave Gin some food. (you can even see Gin cry during that moment when he eats) what happens in fact is that Gin was so submerged by the kindness of Sanji that he was litterally unable to strike the final blow.

(I'm also talking for you @Kai. Do , this is what a thematic incarnation is all about)

Gin was litterally defeated by Sanji's kindness and Sanji's cooking. (Yes, Oda is a master)

And that's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about conflict of values. The real antagonist of Sanji in the arc was Gin, because of all of this.. and..

(You can find the same process for Luffy against Krieg.. again, Krieg is like Luffy, strong, creative, fearless, confidence, He even surpass Luffy in everyway.. height, men, armure etc.. but he lack's the one thing that Luffy has: determination. )****

And this, my guys, is what a fight of value really is. And this is also what will make Sanji question himself.

**** if you understand correctly what I'm saying by now.. you should be able to see this pattern in another fight .. much.. much closer in our timeline.

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And you don't think it is unfair to compare Carrot's panel time and Yamato's one, when they DON'T HAVE THE SAME ROLE in the story??

Yes it's unfair, but you will have to accept it. We are here to debate which is the best candidate at this VERY moment, not tomorrow.




Uh ???

Oda NEVER forget interactions even when they are offscreen. May I remind you how much Chopper and Brook cried over Pedro when they were only together on screen for a few days ??

The thing is in reality, it was a few week !

Oda is not the type of author to throw that Away, he has never done that.

That is also why Yamato will never compare to Carrot in term of interactions with the crew.. NEVER. (unless of course she joins later)



Explain me why she cry then when Luffy is sick or ill or hurt.. Let me explain why she hug so much Jinbe .. because of Garchu ?? yeah.. find another excuse mate.

The most important group shot of Wano was this one. The other one was was optionnal.

Why ? because it was the first time the mugiwara were shown together since fishmen island. That's why.

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Just stop talking dude, you are ridiculizing yourself.

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no, I even count those where Carrot is not in favor, but for that you would have to read what your are criticizing..

I know it's hard..

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Of course it's possible., just "unlikely" because this would mean that Oda is doing something special by retarding those introduction so much. and that's unlikely.



Yeah.. that wouldn't make any sence with Carrot's characterization (read my conversation with Sigran, you will understand why)

You're trying to make it sound super complicated because you know it makes Carrot look bad. For the last time, the term "antagonist" has nothing to do with values or who the protagonist is. I even linked 3 seperate dictionaries to prove it.

Krieg is related to Sanji because he assaulted Sanji's core values. Sanji believed that it was always right to feed someone who is starving no matter what. But when he fed Krieg, he almost killed everyone Sanji loved. Not only was it Sanji's fault for feeding him, but it challenged Sanji's belief that he should always feed the hungry.

You're not a real analyst if you read baratie and conclude that Krieg isn't connected to Sanji. For someone who talks so much about a battle of values making an antagonist, you should see that Krieg is the most blatant example of this in the entire series. Not that that matters since values have nothing to do with my argument, you're just trying to change the discussion because you know you're wrong. I've ignored a lot of extremely poor arguments from you, but this denial of new strawhats being connected to the arc villain is 100% bullshit and you know it. I know you're not this stupid, which means you're intentionally bulshitting me to avoid admitting there's a flaw in your argument. I think you know deep down that there are many strawhat qualities that Carrot lacks, you're just being intellectually dishonest.

 

[Gear]

No, that's talking nonsence. Composition would actually make you understand that all the look are directly directing the attention at the center of the image. Being Jinbe but ALSO Carrot. THIS is composition analysis. you, you are only trying to find excuses to dissmiss the subtext meaning of the panel

Wtf :laughmoji:

 

[Logiko]

When Brook fought ryuma it was shown. Zoro did come Brook to defense. Vs Carrot who had no strawhat to defend her and her fight was skip over.

My point exactly

 

[Staticshadic]

My point exactly

Your point is she not joining crew okay.

 

[Ravagerblade]

My point exactly

Carrot had her fight shown?! Zomg where are those missing panels then? Did you take them from Oda?

 

[Logiko]

Funny this came from someone who made a blog of thousands of words of a meaningless fictional character, hoping for it to be meaningful.

Yeah.. i'll again ignore that.

Changing goalpost (again) to fit your agenda. Totally nothing new. There is no need to learn about subtext/subversion dialogue BS. The story points there, the writings on the wall are obvious.

Says basically all the art studients who don't want to actually listen to the teacher, because you see.. they KNOW.

Lmao.. the flashbacks..

What you’ve done here is forcing everyone to believe what you believe. You keep insisting that your hypothesis, theories, analyst, whatchamacallit is the most important one and intentionally calling others as “pigeons” because can’t see the “storytelling” from your point of view; while at the same time we are ignoring your hypothesis which has nothing to do with the story.

No one is forced to listen to anything. If you think you are, maybe you shouldn't be watching at a screen so much.

note to yourself: hypothesis is hypothesis. It has nothing to do with the story. That’s why it’s called “hypothesis” not “facts”. Learn the difference

Hypothesis are assumptions based on elements we can find in the story ( or that we can't find), an hypothesis is here to answer a question. If you have better hypothesis to answer the question (that doesn't come into conflict with the story), I'm all hears.

That's the whole point about debate. And I you might have seen here, sometimes, a good point make me move a bit.

You were the one who brought that panel relevancy in favor of Carrot, claimed that the panel was more important than what Yamato has because Carrot was the only non-Straw Hat there, which means something.

Yes and it still is.

Then we gave you the real panel with Wanda also there, only for you to change the goalpost by saying that Carrot is in the center, while at the same time pretty much ignore & don’t care that Wanda is also there; ignoring your first argument with your new goalpost.

The fact still stands that Wanda is there, and no need to bring “Carrot is in the center” as your new goalpost. You’re being disingenuous here and you know it

No. Carrot was ALWAYS in the center, and the panel still kept his meaning with or without Wanda. That's why Wanda's presence is meaningless to the meaning of this panel. In fact no.. Let me scratch that, it's even MORE powerfull, because with the presence of Wanda smiling while seeing Carrot getting along so well with the strawhat, you can ac tually sence a bit of approuval from her part to let Carrot be with them. (oops, too bad)

The only goal post, is in your head lol

You were the one who challenged to be asked only to reply here that I’m the one who needs to explain them. Are you mental?

wua ?

Well then if you ask me to ignore you simply because you don’t want people argue your arguments, that’ll do.

After all I’m pretty much assured Yamato is joining. The story itself goes there. No need subtext, no need subversion dialogue. I also don’t need to convince people because they can see the writings on the wall.

Have it your way

bu bye !

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@CarrotForNakama

Most people here are much better analyst than you. At the end of Wano you will see. Hopefully then you can change your view on the story but I doubt it. I never saw someone so delusional as you.

yeah yeah.. if you say so ! lmao

The delusion is so strong some people even think you are trolling because the fact someone is so delusional is unbelievable.

Mark my words: People here can much better analyze than you. After your realization try to read again all of this and try to learn some things. Its never to late

Have a nice day

If that was the case, there would be much more Carrot supporters here lol.. too bad.

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You're trying to make it sound super complicated because you know it makes Carrot look bad. For the last time, the term "antagonist" has nothing to do with values or who the protagonist is. I even linked 3 seperate dictionaries to prove it.

No. i'm in the contrary trying to be very precise because I know that you have (or should have) the knowledge to understand that. And yes the relation between an antagonist and a protagonist is all about value. I proved it to you with Gin and with my Krieg example, didn't you read that ?

Dictionnaries don't know how story are created, they mainly are just reproducing the usage of a word. Don't trust them to much.

Again, if you don't believe me on that point, we are going to have a problem as it is a fondamental rule in storytelling and the creation of stories.

Krieg is related to Sanji because he assaulted Sanji's core values. Sanji believed that it was always right to feed someone who is starving no matter what. But when he fed Krieg, he almost killed everyone Sanji loved. Not only was it Sanji's fault for feeding him, but it challenged Sanji's belief that he should always feed the hungry.

No, Krieg is just a threat for Sanji, nothing more. Like Big Mom.

You're not a real analyst if you read baratie and conclude that Krieg isn't connected to Sanji.

Oh boi here we go.. no you for goshda's sake..

For someone who talks so much about a battle of values making an antagonist, you should see that Krieg is the most blatant example of this in the entire series. Not that that matters since values have nothing to do with my argument, you're just trying to change the discussion because you know you're wrong. I've ignored a lot of extremely poor arguments from you, but this denial of new strawhats being connected to the arc villain is 100% bullshit and you know it. I know you're not this stupid, which means you're intentionally bulshitting me to avoid admitting there's a flaw in your argument. I think you know deep down that there are many strawhat qualities that Carrot lacks, you're just being intellectually dishonest.

...


And here we go.. the start of incomprehension. It looks like my discussion with you is over.. as we have reached a gap of knowledge.

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Your point is she not joining crew okay.

no, the opposite

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Carrot had her fight shown?! Zomg where are those missing panels then? Did you take them from Oda?

No, and honestly it's better like that. That fight would have been meaningless.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Just gonna put that there.

 

[Logiko]

Just gonna put that there.

Neither it is a duty, so stop.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Yeah.. i'll again ignore that.

Says basically all the art studients who don't want to actually listen to the teacher, because you see.. they KNOW.

Lmao.. the flashbacks..

lmao now you wanna act like you’re an art expert, while you completely ignored your own challenge. Art is subjective. Everybody has their own understanding when they see an art. And at least I have prove that I am an artist unlike you who acts like you’re an expert in almost every single subject, including an expert of being ignorant. Keep being delusional like you always do

No one is forced to listen to anything. If you think you are, maybe you shouldn't be watching at a screen so much.

You insisted to stay here and put your irrelevant blogs so many times pretty much means forcing.

Knock knock? Anybody there?

Hypothesis are assumptions based on elements we can find in the story ( or that we can't find), an hypothesis is here to answer a question. If you have better hypothesis to answer the question (that doesn't come into conflict with the story), I'm all hears.

That's the whole point about debate. And I you might have seen here, sometimes, a good point make me move a bit.

“Hypothesis are ASSUMPTIONS based on elements we can find in the story.”

And you still don’t understand the difference between ASSUMPTIONS and FACTS. Brain 404

Yes and it still is.

and your opinions don’t matter

No. Carrot was ALWAYS in the center, and the panel still kept his meaning with or without Wanda. That's why Wanda's presence is meaningless to the meaning of this panel. In fact no.. Let me scratch that, it's even MORE powerfull, because with the presence of Wanda smiling while seeing Carrot getting along so well with the strawhat, you can ac tually sence a bit of approuval from her part to let Carrot be with them. (oops, too bad)

The only goal post, is in your head lol

LMAO you were the one who keeps bringing that Carrot was the only non-Straw Hat there and chose to ignore Wanda because it doesn’t fit your narrative purpose.

“Wanda smiling seeing Carrot getting along so well etc etc” LMAO are you joking here? Because not gonna lie it is sooo hilarious. You comprehend with your own understanding to fit your own purpose.

For only later Carrot got defeated off-screen by Perospero along with Wanda, which basically means that they’re together until now and Wanda didn’t let Carrot out of her sight again for what Carrot did prior WCI. What kind of approval BS are you talking about?

And you want to act like an art student? Dude you won’t even fulfill the requirement to be one. They will immediately reject you and tell you to choose other subject before you literally lower the quality of the whole faculty

And not gonna lie I was really laughing when you say “art is technique.” LMAO art is not about technique. It’s talent & sense. No matter how hard you’re trying the technique if you don’t have talent & sense, you’re nothing. Claude Monet is literally laughing at you from his grave right now (if you know who he was anyway, which I believe you don’t. Oops)

Keep coping and keep dreaming if those things pay your bills LMAO

wua ?

Challenging others, and when finally got challenged, pretend not understanding a single thing and act like your usual self: being ignorant.

When I thought you couldn’t be stupider, you only dig a new low

bu bye !

At least I should be thanking you for keeping this thread alive, although this thread pretty much free-falling to your IQ level. Sayonara!
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Neither it is a duty, so stop.

Delusional.
I'd hate to be related to you pal. Bet your family hates it when you get together at family gatherings.
You living under a rock or something?