But. but.. NYYYooooooo xD
"For example, in a detective story, it appears that the hero wants to catch the killer and the opponent wants to get away. But they are really fighting over which version of reality everyone will believe."
Where do you see here that he is first showing an exemple of a shallow antagonist and then a deep one ????
This whole exemple IS an exemple of a good antagonism, Truby is simply putting a microscope on the example to tell you "here, you think this is shallow ? But look DEEPER, actually it's NOT"
And that's exactly what i'm doing with you with One Piece ! Again, you can't have a good story without that technique
But no.. that's NOT a surface goal. The goal of Usopp is to destroy Sugar while the goal of Sugar is to trap Luffy. THAT is the surface goal, a pretty simple a clear goal in fact!
The fact that both Usopp and Sugar are fighting for memories IS the deeper (and similar) goal, that's what Truby is trying to make us create in this paragraph!
And yes, it IS the same goal: The control over Memories. This might be kindergarten level logic, but you better understanding that quick if you want to write, because this is EXACTLY what Truby is describing here. Damn.. how can this be so hard to understand..?
Oh no, I didn't spent 15 ears analysing One Piece on that bases, I used first others ressources. Aos is kind of a late addition for me.
Here, I think the problem is not thinking.. I think you understand in your own way that principle, but the logic of it.. you can't accept it.. it happened a lot for me with others Truby concepts like the transformation or desire/needs.. I thought I was understanding them.. but for some reason i kept missing the point, I had to try to decript a lot of stories to really understand those point and where I was a bit flabbergasted.
The problem is that I don't know if I can give you exemple of One Piece as you will always find a way to deny what Oda is writing. I think it will come in time so.. have fun, and good luck with your writing, you're gonna need it..
it will change ;)
"For example, in a detective story, it appears that the hero wants to catch the killer and the opponent wants to get away. But they are really fighting over which version of reality everyone will believe."
Where do you see here that he is first showing an exemple of a shallow antagonist and then a deep one ????
This whole exemple IS an exemple of a good antagonism, Truby is simply putting a microscope on the example to tell you "here, you think this is shallow ? But look DEEPER, actually it's NOT"
And that's exactly what i'm doing with you with One Piece ! Again, you can't have a good story without that technique
But no.. that's NOT a surface goal. The goal of Usopp is to destroy Sugar while the goal of Sugar is to trap Luffy. THAT is the surface goal, a pretty simple a clear goal in fact!
The fact that both Usopp and Sugar are fighting for memories IS the deeper (and similar) goal, that's what Truby is trying to make us create in this paragraph!
And yes, it IS the same goal: The control over Memories. This might be kindergarten level logic, but you better understanding that quick if you want to write, because this is EXACTLY what Truby is describing here. Damn.. how can this be so hard to understand..?
Oh no, I didn't spent 15 ears analysing One Piece on that bases, I used first others ressources. Aos is kind of a late addition for me.
Here, I think the problem is not thinking.. I think you understand in your own way that principle, but the logic of it.. you can't accept it.. it happened a lot for me with others Truby concepts like the transformation or desire/needs.. I thought I was understanding them.. but for some reason i kept missing the point, I had to try to decript a lot of stories to really understand those point and where I was a bit flabbergasted.
The problem is that I don't know if I can give you exemple of One Piece as you will always find a way to deny what Oda is writing. I think it will come in time so.. have fun, and good luck with your writing, you're gonna need it..
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it will change ;)
Just stop. You're only embarrasing yourself at this point. First learn about sentence structure so you can understand the detective example, then memorize the difference between the words "similar" and "same", and find a method to help you identify them in sentences. Come back and try again after that.