Yeah, and Riku Dold decided to collect all the money from the people of Dressrosa and that allowed Doflamingo to overthrow him.
And Nami trusted that Arlong would keep his word and shouldered the burden for an entire village
And Robin trusted the organisation responsible for the genocide of her village to leave the Strawhats alone, only to be shocked when at the first technicality they tried to murder them
And Zoro listened to Helmeppo's promise
And Vivi thought she could save the day without anyone dying
And Shirahoshi kept the identity of her mother's assassin hidden in a misguided attempt to honour her
And Sanji fed the pirates who would have ended up destroying everything he loved. And then believed Big Mom would simply let the Strawhats go.
And Ace went charging off solo after Blackbeard despite Whitebeard telling him not to
And in the end all these characters fucked up and Luffy needed to save the day. And despite that, Oda has always portrayed what the characters did as being noble, but misguided.
Kinda hard to take these criticisms seriously nearly a thousand chapters in. Much like the ones over Oden vs Kaido not being a full fight. You should know how Oda does things by now. A heroic One Piece character trying to take on a burden vastly beyond him and trusting the villain? And this... doesn't work?
I
Am
Shocked
(also we're four minutes into the hour of legends, the citizens have just found out about Oden's actions and there's plenty of time to expand on them. This thread could prove very premature)
Oden's big mistake wasn't trusting Orochi and Kaido. It was going to sea in the first place. That's what actually led to their rise. But that's a mistake that ultimately will lead to the world being saved, because Oden's instrumental in Roger becoming Pirate King, and Roger becoming Pirate King leads to Luffy
And then, maybe, trusting that he was strong enough to deal with whatever had happened to Wano in his absence. Which is understandable to an extent. Oden as of Raftel is one of the strongest men in the world. He's aware that something has gone wrong in his absence, but he believes he can deal with it. What he doesn't know is that someone has managed to infiltrate isolationist Wano- which isn't that surprising, given that Oden had only ever known three groups to actually get to Wano- the shipwrecked Inu and Neko, shipwrecked Whitebeard and Roger, who actually sailed there. An outsider like Kaido being there was not something I'd imagine Oden to have expected.
Then when he's arrived he does go to war- and discovers too late that Kaido's a threat beyond his ability. And Orochi does point out that if he attempts to fight, he will lose. He'll do a hell of a lot of damage, but he will lose. Where does that leave Wano? And he can't go for help, because, again, Wano is isolationist. We saw at the start of the flashback, Oden is literally incapable of leaving without help. So he goes with what's seemingly the best option, Orochi's deal, and for five years that seems to be working.
And Nami trusted that Arlong would keep his word and shouldered the burden for an entire village
And Robin trusted the organisation responsible for the genocide of her village to leave the Strawhats alone, only to be shocked when at the first technicality they tried to murder them
And Zoro listened to Helmeppo's promise
And Vivi thought she could save the day without anyone dying
And Shirahoshi kept the identity of her mother's assassin hidden in a misguided attempt to honour her
And Sanji fed the pirates who would have ended up destroying everything he loved. And then believed Big Mom would simply let the Strawhats go.
And Ace went charging off solo after Blackbeard despite Whitebeard telling him not to
And in the end all these characters fucked up and Luffy needed to save the day. And despite that, Oda has always portrayed what the characters did as being noble, but misguided.
Kinda hard to take these criticisms seriously nearly a thousand chapters in. Much like the ones over Oden vs Kaido not being a full fight. You should know how Oda does things by now. A heroic One Piece character trying to take on a burden vastly beyond him and trusting the villain? And this... doesn't work?
I
Am
Shocked
(also we're four minutes into the hour of legends, the citizens have just found out about Oden's actions and there's plenty of time to expand on them. This thread could prove very premature)
Oden's big mistake wasn't trusting Orochi and Kaido. It was going to sea in the first place. That's what actually led to their rise. But that's a mistake that ultimately will lead to the world being saved, because Oden's instrumental in Roger becoming Pirate King, and Roger becoming Pirate King leads to Luffy
And then, maybe, trusting that he was strong enough to deal with whatever had happened to Wano in his absence. Which is understandable to an extent. Oden as of Raftel is one of the strongest men in the world. He's aware that something has gone wrong in his absence, but he believes he can deal with it. What he doesn't know is that someone has managed to infiltrate isolationist Wano- which isn't that surprising, given that Oden had only ever known three groups to actually get to Wano- the shipwrecked Inu and Neko, shipwrecked Whitebeard and Roger, who actually sailed there. An outsider like Kaido being there was not something I'd imagine Oden to have expected.
Then when he's arrived he does go to war- and discovers too late that Kaido's a threat beyond his ability. And Orochi does point out that if he attempts to fight, he will lose. He'll do a hell of a lot of damage, but he will lose. Where does that leave Wano? And he can't go for help, because, again, Wano is isolationist. We saw at the start of the flashback, Oden is literally incapable of leaving without help. So he goes with what's seemingly the best option, Orochi's deal, and for five years that seems to be working.