Who will beat Kaido now?


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HA001

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Joyboy is solely inherited will. The man IS dead. Luffy represents what he is in the present, that's all.

The manga has only hammered down this idea of inherited will. Death is final in this series.

Luffy is "implied" to be dead at the beginning of the chapter, but he's not by the end. Yes, his DF clearly has weird properties causing him to transform at near death, but that does not literally make him the being from 800 years ago.

Why? Because that would entirely destroy the purpose and mystery behind One Piece if Luffy's "alter ego" was the one who actually left it and is conscious of that fact.
Wait till next chapter soyboy gets up and says long time no see zunisha my old friend
And we get soyboy and hybrid zunisha vs kaido
 
Except that Doriki didn't count neither weapons nor DFs.

So Kaku's doriki didn't measure his swordsmanship (he didn't even have his swords with him when Fukuro measured their doriki) and his DF inflated swordsmanship.

Basically Kaku's best move, Rankyaku Amanedachi, wasn't counted in his doriki, because it's something he can do only with DF. And DF power up is textually stated to not be measured by doriki.



So by doriki, it's Lucci >>>>> Kaku > Jabra >>>>> the others.
While by overall strength, it's Lucci >>> Kaku >>> Jabra >>>>> the others.
(It did measure weaponry the baseline we were given included weaponry)

It just doesn’t measure devil fruit powers
 

Seatonnes

waiting for Marvel Rivals
Kaido, momo, and Kid/Law basically confirm that Luffy died

then zunisha said joyboy has returned. That doesn’t mean there’s a new joyboy. It means the old joy boy has come back.

at this point anything’s possible
no one can sense luffys aura because hes emanating joyboys like the scabbards were emanating odens
 
Kaido, momo, and Kid/Law basically confirm that Luffy died

then zunisha said joyboy has returned. That doesn’t mean there’s a new joyboy. It means the old joy boy has come back.

at this point anything’s possible
No dude.
Luffy faced death and came back by himself. He achieved a mental state that on Zunisha eyes is like a joyboy title

Theres no posession. I can bet money on It
 
for those who think Luffy has died and now Joyboy is taking over his body? Do you think will he recognize his crewmates or would they have to introduce themselves again? :D
Joyboy is merely an epithet, for those people who has those powers.
Shirahoshi is the ancient Poseidon because she has the power of the first person who had the same power and had the epithet poseidon.
Joyboy is the epithet of the character of the Void century who , he had the sames powers as Luffy if you ask me he has to be an ancestor of Luffy.
Luffy, Shirahoshi, Momo, Zoro has inherited the powers of their ancestors.
Luffy has Joyboy's/Sun Godnika's powers
Shirahoshi has the first Poseidon's (a mermaid like her maybe even blood related) powers
Momo has the powers of Kozuki members who commanded Zunisha at that time and closed Wano's broders.
and Zoro has the powers of swordgod/Ruyma , man not only his powers but even he lost his eyes like Ruyma.
obviously that is what Oda calls inherited will.
 
Atleast if you are gna lie, do it in a sword piece forum.
Luffy has been grinding in the trenches since the ts came about. Fought Doflamingo, Katakuri e.t.c.
Who exactly did Zoro fight before King?? Face it, Zoro and the rest of the SHs coasted their way to multiple powerups
You think hard work is lifting iron and shit. Iron don't hit back lil bro:risitameh:
Grinding in what trenches. Mans just get PU he ain't earn
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
for those who think Luffy has died and now Joyboy is taking over his body? Do you think will he recognize his crewmates or would they have to introduce themselves again? :D
Joyboy is merely an epithet, for those people who has those powers.
Shirahoshi is the ancient Poseidon because she has the power of the first person who had the same power and had the epithet poseidon.
Joyboy is the epithet of the character of the Void century who , he had the sames powers as Luffy if you ask me he has to be an ancestor of Luffy.
Luffy, Shirahoshi, Momo, Zoro has inherited the powers of their ancestors.
Luffy has Joyboy's/Sun Godnika's powers
Shirahoshi has the first Poseidon's (a mermaid like her maybe even blood related) powers
Momo has the powers of Kozuki members who commanded Zunisha at that time and closed Wano's broders.
and Zoro has the powers of swordgod/Ruyma , man not only his powers but even he lost his eyes like Ruyma.
obviously that is what Oda calls inherited will.
Luffy will obviously have to fight soyboy in his head for control
 
People that think a dead man posessed luffy are reading OP with their eye from bellow.

Like, How can you even think a DEAD mf is taking Control over someone????

Whats next, whitebeard taking Control over a fodder and say " MARCOOOO" ....???

Zunisha only acklowdge luffy as a New Joyboy for who he is, and the mental state luffy achieved made this even clear for Zunisha.

Theres no spirits taking Control over people in OP and never Will.
 
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