Who will beat Kaido now?


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cant wait til end of wano when yamato doesnt join
Never understood why people want more characters to join when the characters we have barely get the focus we want. Every major arc after Alabasta atleast 2 or 3 strawhats take a back seat. Number gradually continued to grow , now currently Brook, Usopp, Nami and Chopper took a backseat and Oda didn’t give them fights. Add Yamato and next arc it’ll be Robin or Franky.
 
It's not reincarnation is it
Luffys been alive for 20 years and hasn't been soyboy
Luffy has died
And now he's changing
And zunisha is saying soyboy has RETURNED
The gomu gomu no more likely works similar to the yomi yomi no mi where it’s true power is only revealed after death.

that or Luffy somehow copied the yomi yomi no mi’s powers
 
People that think a dead man posessed luffy are reading OP with their eye from bellow.

Like, How can you even think a DEAD mf is taking Control over someone????

Whats next, whitebeart taking Control over a fodder and say " MARCOOOO" ....???

Zunisha only acklowdge luffy as a New Joyboy for who he is, and the mental state luffy achieved made this even clear for Zunisha.

Theres no spirits taking Control over people in OP and never Will.
Anything goes if some people can claim a dead man haki can exist inside a sword
 

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is probably playing Overwatch 2
Never understood why people want more characters to join when the characters we have barely get the focus we want. Every major arc after Alabasta atleast 2 or 3 strawhats take a back seat. Number gradually continued to grow , now currently Brook, Usopp, Nami and Chopper took a backseat and Oda didn’t give them fights. Add Yamato and next arc it’ll be Robin or Franky.
facts but we kinda need 10 + luffy due to the ten titanic captains oda fucked up and forced himself into it
 
There are many thing that possible.
Like awakening gomu gomu no mi = Joy Boy. Or Zunisha can hear Joy Boy when he awakening his gomu gomu no mi.
You just jump to that conclusion.
Still no evidence that Luffy is really dead.
He is probably not dead, maybe his heart stopped but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't be back. Would be too lame of a plot if he didn't.
 
Kaido, momo, and Kid/Law basically confirm that Luffy died

then zunisha said joyboy has returned. That doesn’t mean there’s a new joyboy. It means the old joy boy has come back.

at this point anything’s possible
They confirmed that his voice has died. Don’t forget that all the voices disappeared on skypia but they were only knocked out. Also a person can seem dead and be dead for up to 6 minutes and still return, even longer but the change of brain damage increases. And also we don’t know what devil fruit powers be has now. Enel revived himself, maybe the devil fruit has an ability that doesn’t let him die for one time. A lot is possible and even the possession of Joyboy is possible although the least likely one according to me. Zunesha only said I heard that sound that I haven’t heard in 800 years Joyboy has returned. It might be a sound produced by the awakening of the devil fruit and who ever has it he considers Joyboy.
 
(It did measure weaponry the baseline we were given included weaponry)

It just doesn’t measure devil fruit powers
Doriki didn't count DFs. And in case of CP9, weapons.

The soldier with a rifle is measured with a rifle.
But Kaku's doriki didn't measure his swordsmanship (he didn't even have his swords with him when Fukuro measured their doriki... how the fk can you measure something that there is not even there?) and his DF inflated swordsmanship.

Kaku's best move, Rankyaku Amanedachi (comparable power to Lucci's Rankyaku Gaicho) wasn't counted in his doriki, because it's something he can do only with DF. And DF power up is textually stated to not be measured by doriki.



So by doriki, it's Lucci >>>>> Kaku > Jabra >>>>> the others.
While by overall strength, it's Lucci >>> Kaku >>> Jabra >>>>> the others.

Luffy extreme diffed Lucci (was almost a draw). He was completely unable to move after.

Zoro mid/high diffed Kaku. The former was more or less on par with the latter before going all out with Ashura; after Zoro used Ashura, he annihilated Kaku completely, trashing the latter's strongest move and immediately KOing him. He was perfectly fine after.

Sanji high diffed Jabra. They were more or less on par before Sanji went all out with Diable Jambe; once he did that, he won, but he didn't dominate and annihilate Jabra like Zoro did with Kaku. DJ Sanji still needed three hits to win: one tanked, one dodged and another gave him the win but he needed to trade a wound to land the attack.

So it's Lucci >>> Kaku >>> Jabra >>>>> the others.
And Luffy > Zoro >> Sanji >>> the others.

Zoro's Ashura destroyed Kaku's Rankyaku Amanedachi, which, in his weaker demonstrative usage, seemed similar to Lucci's Rankyaku Gaicho, which was portrayed to be similar to Luffy's basic Gear 3 attacks.
Ashura Zoro was therefore almost on Lucci and Gear 2/3 Luffy's level. Kaku was much weaker, a bit stronger than Sanji and massively stronger than Jabra.
 
They confirmed that his voice has died. Don’t forget that all the voices disappeared on skypia but they were only knocked out. Also a person can seem dead and be dead for up to 6 minutes and still return, even longer but the change of brain damage increases. And also we don’t know what devil fruit powers be has now. Enel revived himself, maybe the devil fruit has an ability that doesn’t let him die for one time. A lot is possible and even the possession of Joyboy is possible although the least likely one according to me. Zunesha only said I heard that sound that I haven’t heard in 800 years Joyboy has returned. It might be a sound produced by the awakening of the devil fruit and who ever has it he considers Joyboy.
Yeah but momo has a psychic link with Luffy. So if he says Luffy died, I’m inclined to believe it
 
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