Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion
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The point is to grow through the fight. That's what Luffy did. That's what One Piece has always done.
You keep bringing up Luffy having opponents, but the Katakuri fight is the first fight he used 100% and beyond in. Up until then he was riding off his training with Rayleigh and didn't get any stronger. He completely bodied Hody, Caesar Chinjao and was blatantly stronger than Doffy. There was no growth.
You're also completely ignoring the fact that we did see Zoro training after he got Enma and he said he'll be a lot stronger when he masters it.
So what do we have?
-Zoro has yet to show his full power
-Zoro has gotten more powerful sword
-Zoro has been shown training
-Zoro has black blade power up foreshadowed
-Zoro will grow in battle
How can you in good faith say him fighting and beating King will come out of nowhere?
Stop calling everything that doesn't match your headcanon bad writing. The phrase "bad writing" is nothing more than buzz words at this point with how loosely it's been thrown around.
You keep bringing up Luffy having opponents, but the Katakuri fight is the first fight he used 100% and beyond in. Up until then he was riding off his training with Rayleigh and didn't get any stronger. He completely bodied Hody, Caesar Chinjao and was blatantly stronger than Doffy. There was no growth.
You're also completely ignoring the fact that we did see Zoro training after he got Enma and he said he'll be a lot stronger when he masters it.
So what do we have?
-Zoro has yet to show his full power
-Zoro has gotten more powerful sword
-Zoro has been shown training
-Zoro has black blade power up foreshadowed
-Zoro will grow in battle
How can you in good faith say him fighting and beating King will come out of nowhere?
Stop calling everything that doesn't match your headcanon bad writing. The phrase "bad writing" is nothing more than buzz words at this point with how loosely it's been thrown around.
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Yes but luffy fought doffy and then cracker prior. Making his struggle and fight against kata believable. Zoro fought no one of note. That’s my problem , I feel like I’m repeating myself. Zoro not showing his full power doesn’t mean he should be that much stronger because it would mean luffy was weaker in fishman island and would also render luffys accomplishments obsolete. People like to see their heroes struggle to get there. That’s why a lot of people are against this. I really hope you understand, in no way am in undermining zoro I’m just being coldly logical about this. I want my man to become the strongest swordsman in wano, but he needs to get there. One thing oda can do is have the raid fail, him fighting king and losing then a rematch. That will make it easier to swallow for people.
This is right at the beginning...
Now,let me tell you that Mihawk was teaching zoro about how to make blade black. And, in wano we learnt that it happen through numerous battles and when one becomes one with sword.
What makes you think that Mihawk (the only second character with black blade would be unaware of this requires and will not make zoro go through fighting humandrils again and again?
I didn't deny Zoro fighting Humandrills again but your claim of Zoro having more opponents to fight during TS. Did you forgot Luffy training?
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and you are correct in that
it aint a zoro only problem
its everyone aside luffy or urouge.
they are yet to take down someone of note.
you might say the clash with hawkins, fight with killer , clash with kyoshiro helped a bit and another week of training brough him some pace but def not yc1 level atm.
and you are correct in that
it aint a zoro only problem
its everyone aside luffy or urouge.
they are yet to take down someone of note.
you might say the clash with hawkins, fight with killer , clash with kyoshiro helped a bit and another week of training brough him some pace but def not yc1 level atm.
It’s not headcanon, it’s basic powerscalling. And yes it would be bad writting if zoro just up and walked there to beat lint after an extreme diff fight. That would be like if luffy just up and walked then extreme diffed fujitora in dressrossa before his fight with doffy just because we didn’t see him struggle much before.
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